General & Others Vivre card confirms Kizaru mental nerf

[Roo]

Kinnemon...
We're talking about Dukes and Shutenmaru having better cqc than Law and are stronger than pre awakened Law (base Wano Law is >= Sulong Dukes /Kjng/queen at best)
You're mentioning Kinenmon

Because Kinemon trained alongside them and has the same form of haki?

Yet that haki and training is as useless against Law. In order to beat Law you need overwhelming haki. Jack lacks that. Your argument are shit, you even made shit up in this argument claiming Drake helped Law beat Hawkins himself said Law would kill him in a 1v1

 

[JoNdule]

Jack went down without a single basic COA feat
Law one shot with a MES

Yet people with better haki than him couldn't overpower him easily close combat and beat him

But Law with weaker haki oenshots an ancient zoan YC
The same guy that can't one-shot Hawkins on screen

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Yet people with better haki than him couldn't overpower him easily close combat and beat him

But Law with weaker haki oenshots an ancient zoan YC
The same guy that can't one-shot Hawkins on screen

stop
Law stomped a aCOA user (kinemon)
jack didn't even show aCOA!

 

[Sir Yasheen]

didn't his weapon break?

No. He got attacked off guard once, and then immediately after blocked the next slash, bested Doji in CqC and had doji holding the wound saying he refuses to die to a subordinate.

Idk why people just focus on the first scene though…

 

[JoNdule]

Because Kinemon trained alongside them and has the same form of haki?

Yet that haki and training is as useless against Law. In order to beat Law you need overwhelming haki. Jack lacks that. Your argument are shit, you even made shit up in this argument claiming Drake helped Law beat Hawkins himself said Law would kill him in a 1v1

Kinnemon is weaker than those guys

Who did Law even beat with bis hax that was YC level even near Jack? Nobody

This is how you guys claimed GK will do seieous damage to kaido cause it hurt your precious Doffy the weakling.

It's time to move on,
DT Law can only beat guys like vergo and maybe snack & WsW .
Anyone else above beats him no matter his so called hax

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

No. He got attacked off guard once, and then immediately after blocked the next slash, bested Doji in CqC and had doji holding the wound saying he refuses to die to a subordinate.

Idk why people just focus on the first scene though…

They fear the drought so they disrespect the drought

 

[JoNdule]

stop
Law stomped a aCOA user (kinemon)
jack didn't even show aCOA!

Kinnemon who didn't defend himself and was running away?

And kinnemon isn't a tank YC level dude lol

Law field to stomp Hawkins on screen
Now tell me Hawkins > Jack

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Law stomped a running kinnemon so it means he's beating Jack or Dukes

What retarded logic is this

Kinnemon is confirmed way weaker than BASE DUKES , let alone sukong Dukes
Base Jack = base Dukes
Sulong Dukes > Hybrid Jack > base Dukes

DF Law is not above base Dukes. Freaking Luffy himself was even in doubt on how Inu could lose to Jack

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Someone who destroyed awakened Doffy was shocked Inu lost to Jack.

But you think Law is beating Jack/Dukes

 

[Roo]

Yet people with better haki than him couldn't overpower him easily close combat and beat him

But Law with weaker haki oenshots an ancient zoan YC
The same guy that can't one-shot Hawkins on screen

Law did one shot Hawkins

Jack is getting cut in half in this case as it wouldn’t transfer to anyone.


you keep using Hawkins as a way to downplay Law when Hawkins himself is scared of Law.

and a tortured/gimp Law went on to beat Hawkins causally

Kinnemon is weaker than those guys

Share the same level of haki and was about to kill Jack if it wasn’t for the sulong dukes

Who did Law even beat with bis hax that was YC level even near Jack? Nobody

He used his hax to help Zoro whos haki is way above the likes of Jack.

This is how you guys claimed GK will do seieous damage to kaido cause it hurt your precious Doffy the weakling.

Kaido is the exception not the rule. We saw Kaido tank the same attacks that took down Jack

 

[JoNdule]

Law did one shot Hawkins

Jack is getting cut in half in this case as it wouldn’t transfer to anyone.


you keep using Hawkins as a way to downplay Law when Hawkins himself is scared of Law.

and a tortured/gimp Law went on to beat Hawkins causally

Share the same level of haki and was about to kill Jack if it wasn’t for the sulong dukes

He used his hax to help Zoro whos haki is way above the likes of Jack.

Kaido is the exception not the rule. We saw Kaido tank the same attacks that took down Jack

So he oneshottd Hawkins but Hawkins isn't beaten

If his attack was that powerful, Hawkins wouldn't transfer all the damage, he'd be KOed still.

If it was G4 that punched Hawkins, he'd be KOed even if he tried transferring damage

But go on with your silliness

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Law did one shot Hawkins

Jack is getting cut in half in this case as it wouldn’t transfer to anyone.


you keep using Hawkins as a way to downplay Law when Hawkins himself is scared of Law.

and a tortured/gimp Law went on to beat Hawkins causally

Share the same level of haki and was about to kill Jack if it wasn’t for the sulong dukes

He used his hax to help Zoro whos haki is way above the likes of Jack.

Kaido is the exception not the rule. We saw Kaido tank the same attacks that took down Jack

You’re just assuming that can cut jack in half… Laws amputate isn’t going to work on Jack cause Law wouldn’t be able to physically cut through jack like he could with fodder like Hawkins and tashigi.

If base Jack can stop the blades of and overpower in close combat Ashura Doji, and Inu I have no reason to assume Law is cutting through his guard.

 

[Roo]

If his attack was that powerful, Hawkins wouldn't transfer all the damage, he'd be KOed still.

If it was G4 that punched Hawkins, he'd be KOed even if he tried transferring damage

But go on with your silliness

what? laws spatial cuts dont harm the user, why the fuck would it even KO Hawkins? Do you even read one piece?

Also highly doubt Hawkins would be KOed if he transfers damage from a G4 attack. We have seen him transfer lethal cuts with very little reaction

 

[JoNdule]

what? laws spatial cuts dont harm the user, why the fuck would it even KO Hawkins? Do you even read one piece?

Also highly doubt Hawkins would be KOed if he transfers damage from a G4 attack. We have seen him transfer lethal cuts with very little reaction

You claimed he oneshotted him which didn't happen
You just can't accept the fact Law can't easily beat Hawkins on screen

 

[Roo]

You’re just assuming that can cut jack in half… Laws amputate isn’t going to work on Jack cause Law wouldn’t be able to physically cut through jack like he could with fodder like Hawkins and tashigi.

If base Jack can stop the blades of and overpower in close combat Ashura Doji, and Inu I have no reason to assume Law is cutting through his guard.

Spatial cuts bypass durability. Doesn’t matter how physical strong Jack is, if law can cut sea stone he’s cutting Jacks skin

We need haki feats to asses Jack and he has none. He got overpowered by Ashura Doji who didnt even use haki as far as we can tell

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You claimed he oneshotted him which didn't happen
You just can't accept the fact Law can't easily beat Hawkins on screen

If Hawkins has extra lives nobody is “easily” beating him, that’s his thing, stalling

 

[Germinator]

Lmao

🥷s saying Law can't cut Jack? Lmao

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Spatial cuts bypass durability. Doesn’t matter how physical strong Jack is, if law can cut sea stone he’s cutting Jacks skin

We need haki feats to asses Jack and he has none. He got overpowered by Ashura Doji who didnt even use haki as far as we can tell

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If Hawkins has extra lives nobody is “easily” beating him, that’s his thing, stalling

They don’t bypass durability, I’m not sure where that’s even hinted at?

He literally overpowered Asura Doji? Doji was also clearly using haki because when Jack wasn’t Doji was able to cut a sword in half…

 

[BanditKanki]

Genuinely, it’s a bit ridiculous how any of this was ever in question. People are so obsessed with power levels and completely ignored the clear and obvious story that was there in front of them.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lmao

🥷s saying Law can't cut Jack? Lmao

Whether law can or cannot doesn’t matter in actuality. A battle between the two is brief and brutal with Jack coming down on Law like a runaway freight train. Law won’t get off any successful slashes before Jack’s ripped his torso asunder with his shotel blades.

 

[Roo]

They don’t bypass durability, I’m not sure where that’s even hinted at?

Is cutting the hardest material in the series with ease not enough proof?

We are literally told Law controls everything in his room and can only be stopped with Haki, not durability. That’s enough hints

He literally overpowered Asura Doji? Doji was also clearly using haki because when Jack wasn’t Doji was able to cut a sword in half…

Zoro was destroying swords way back in AP, that doesn’t mean shit

 

[JoNdule]

Jack can pressure Ashura Doji
But you think Law whom Smoker and Vergo can pessyrr . Even Hawkins can match a bit onscreen in close combat will easily use his hax to overpower Jack

 

[Germinator]

Whether law can or cannot doesn’t matter in actuality. A battle between the two is brief and brutal with Jack coming down on Law like a runaway freight train. Law won’t get off any successful slashes before Jack’s ripped his torso asunder with his shotel blades.

Oh you guys are talking about DR Law

Yeah Lack gets chopped

You guys pretending Jacks Sonic The Hedgehog or something when Law blitzed Vergo