I'll start to use a new term to describe what you guyz are doing
@NAMELESS @Ravagerblade and
@Brush D. Teeth (and many others here) because I'm starting to get tired of making the effort of research when you are doing none:
Post-Truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth
The Post-Truth politics and post-truth argumentation is a phenomena that started to rise is the last decade. It's the fact of NOT CARING AT ALL about facts and objective data, ignoring them most of the time in discussions, avoiding any questions related to these facts or datas and
creating an alternative narrative that is made to appeal to what people who make the argumentation want and not what we know.
In other word it's the fact of not creating argument in function of what is true but in function of what the user wants to believe.
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You can see examples of that pretty much all over this thread and I admit that I never really noticed that because I was too focus in trying to find thousands of studies and datas to proves to anyone here the fallacy of their argument to understand what was really happening.
You guys do not care about the truth.
You do not care about science.
You do not care about facts.
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So, unless you start to talking about facts and real actual studies and once you really start to understand how a grown up discussions really are, I will reduce the debunking to the minimum and focus on describing your post-truth argumentation and post-truth political values.
This will not be pretty. But it's the only possible way to have an exchange with people who don't care about what is true.