Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

With Trump it may go either way

No it might not! He made it CLEAR that he will support Israels Gandhi !

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...mocrats-harris-israel-gaza-palestinians-trump

Under her and Biden's watch we got one step away from WWIII and people are being genocided in Gaza and Lebanon

Yes, but in that case don't vote for someone even worse !!!

It's like dating a murderous psychopath because your ex was a narcissist. It's completely senseless.

 

[Mathias]

Looked up to some polls. Seems like Trump is slightly ahead on most swing states.

Lol your candidate is actually in charge while people are being genocided.

Okay let's go for worse then

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No it might not! He made it CLEAR that he will support Israels Gandhi !

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...mocrats-harris-israel-gaza-palestinians-trump

What does Israel's Gandhi mean ?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

No it might not! He made it CLEAR that he will support Israels Gandhi !

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...mocrats-harris-israel-gaza-palestinians-trump



Yes, but in that case don't vote for someone even worse !!!

It's like dating a murderous psychopath because your ex was a narcissist. It's completely senseless.

One of the most peaceful US presidents vs the butchress of Gaza, I wonder what's best. Keep supporting the murderer of 40k.

Looked up to some polls. Seems like Trump is slightly ahead on most swing states.




Okay let's go for worse then

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What does Israel's Gandhi mean ?

 

[Logiko]

What does Israel's Gandhi mean ?

Not "Israel gandhi", just Gandhi.

One of the most peaceful US presidents vs the butchress of Gaza, I wonder what's best

I give you clear evidence that Trump supports the Genocide (and thus you support it to by supporting Trump) and you keep the denial ?

Wow...

And you keep calling saying your BS thinking that you are a genius who killed the game ?

 

[Mathias]

Not "Israel gandhi", just Gandhi.

Still don’t get it

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

last few days polls look very tight Trump could still win if he manages to get hold of PA and AR

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I might blame Joe Biden for this if Dem loses he should have step aside long back .

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Not "Israel gandhi", just Gandhi.


I give you clear evidence that Trump supports the Genocide (and thus you support it to by supporting Trump) and you keep the denial ?

Wow...

And you keep calling saying your BS thinking that you are a genius who killed the game ?

We will see if he will really support it and to what extent, what we know for sure is that your candidate is actively carrying out the genocide, tens of thousands of people in the span of a few months. They are already dead, no need for hypotheses.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Looked up to some polls. Seems like Trump is slightly ahead on most swing states.




Okay let's go for worse then

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What does Israel's Gandhi mean ?

Top pollster Nate Silver predicted last few days there has been dramatic shift for Trump .

However it will be very close calls especially Penn and Arizona . My bro put bet on Trump to win this time .

 

[Logiko]

Still don’t get it

I call him Gandhi ironically because he tries to convince me that he wants peace when it's the opposite. (Just like I call them Einstein when they think they say something genius.

We will see if he will really support it and to what extent

Why would he not support Israel ?

I want you to take a pause to second and look at the political game here.

Trump is far right. Always been. Israel is crypto fascist meaning also far right. They have literally the same ideologies !

what we know for sure is that your candidate is actively carrying out the genocide, tens of thousands of people in the span of a few months. They are already dead, no need for hypotheses.

Yeah, and you are about to be complicite in much worse if you vote for Trump.

It's not a question of hypothesis, it's the FACTS. Trump SAID that he supports Israel. It's one of the core of patriotism in the US. At what point do you think he will just do a 360° and side with leftists like me by denouncing the genocide and stop arming Israel ?

Do you understand how politics works ?

 

[Blax Blah]

I already explained why it's pointless to discuss with someone like you. Sorry, not interested.

Did you see the posters they're putting in NYC? Openly insulting Christians.

Totally unlike dictatorships.

I think it is important to mention that that probably reffers to christian nationalists, since that hat is likely a maga hat, since it looks like one,

There are liberals and socialists who are christian, for example, one of the anarchist territories in the modern day, the EZLN, or the zapatistas by another name, were based upon liberation theology,

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

You can see that in Ideology section,

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I call him Gandhi ironically because he tries to convince me that he wants peace when it's the opposite. (Just like I call them Einstein when they think they say something genius.



Why would he not support Israel ?

I want you to take a pause to second and look at the political game here.

Trump is far right. Always been. Israel is crypto fascist meaning also far right. They have literally the same ideologies !



Yeah, and you are about to be complicite in much worse if you vote for Trump.

It's not a question of hypothesis, it's the FACTS. Trump SAID that he supports Israel. It's one of the core of patriotism in the US. At what point do you think he will just do a 360° and side with leftists like me by denouncing the genocide and stop arming Israel ?

Do you understand how politics works ?

Didn't Trump say he wants to " finish the job "in Gaza and that he supports Netanyahu?,

Edit:

Trump breaks silence on Israel's military campaign in Gaza: 'Finish the problem'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

I call him Gandhi ironically because he tries to convince me that he wants peace when it's the opposite. (Just like I call them Einstein when they think they say something genius.



Why would he not support Israel ?

I want you to take a pause to second and look at the political game here.

Trump is far right. Always been. Israel is crypto fascist meaning also far right. They have literally the same ideologies !



Yeah, and you are about to be complicite in much worse if you vote for Trump.

It's not a question of hypothesis, it's the FACTS. Trump SAID that he supports Israel. It's one of the core of patriotism in the US. At what point do you think he will just do a 360° and side with leftists like me by denouncing the genocide and stop arming Israel ?

Do you understand how politics works ?

Let's take a look at the facts: one on side, one of the most peaceful US presidents. On the other side, one under whose watch we almost got WWIII and Gazans got massacred in the tens of thousands. Not a hard choice if you look at facts.

I think it is important to mention that that probably reffers to christian nationalists, since that hat is likely a maga hat, since it looks like one,

There are liberals and socialists who are christian, for example, one of the anarchist territories in the modern day, the EZLN, or the zapatistas by another name, were based upon liberation theology,

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

You can see that in Ideology section,

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Didn't Trump say he wants to " finish the job "in Gaza and that he supports Netanyahu?,

Edit:

Trump breaks silence on Israel's military campaign in Gaza: 'Finish the problem'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

We will see what that entails. What's for sure is that all this, both Ukraine and Palestine, wouldn't have happened under his presidency. Another thing that's for sure is that under Logiko's favourite we will have 4 years of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
About the NY poster, the moment they put there a Bible it should be considered a mockery of Christians. They will pay for this.

 

[Blax Blah]

Let's take a look at the facts: one on side, one of the most peaceful US presidents. On the other side, one under whose watch we almost got WWIII and Gazans got massacred in the tens of thousands. Not a hard choice if you look at facts.

We will see what that entails. What's for sure is that all this, both Ukraine and Palestine, wouldn't have happened under his presidency. Another thing that's for sure is that under Logiko's favourite he will have 4 years of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
About the NY poster, the moment they put there a Bible it should be considered a mockery of Christians. They will pay for this.

In my opinion, for it to be taken as a mockery of christians specifically, and not christian nationalists, the recent movement of christian nationalism would have to not be taken as a relevant thing, the fact that many christian nationalist groups support Trump would have to be disregarded, the connection between the maga hat and christian nationalism would have to be ignored, and the maga hat in the drawing would have to be taken as a coincidence, and to focus only on the bible in the drawing, or to acknowledge those things, but to think that they are an excuse to actually target just christians in general

Would you say that that's a fair list of requirements?

Also, if that was targetting specifivally christians, when it comes to the issue of someone paying for that, would Jesus want them to pay for it, to be punished for it?,

 

[Logiko]

Didn't Trump say he wants to " finish the job "in Gaza and that he supports Netanyahu?,

He do. Even more so than Harris.

one on side, one of the most peaceful US presidents.

That's your point of view but in reality this is not what happened. The mandate of Trump reenforced Putin, reenforced Taliban, reenforced Israel and North Corea.

While he didn't create war, he still reenforced people who are. And that's what you refuse to see.

and Gazans got massacred in the tens of thousands. Not a hard choice if you look at facts.

When there is one that say "please let's discuss" and the other is saying "Palestinian" as a derogatory term and explains that Israel must continue AND you side with the second.. You are the problem here and completely blind to facts.

Do not EVEN DARE say that you support Palestinian by siding with people who consider them like animal. You will find me in your way at every turn.

On top of that you are completely oblivious to Trump far right politics and fascistic rethoric in other domain.. but at this point, who is counting.. ?

What's for sure is that all this, both Ukraine and Palestine, wouldn't have happened under his presidency.

OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE.

Do you think that Palestinians will just wait patientely to be oblitarated and oppressed without doing anything for years ? The attack on Israel was something prepared for a long time and the result of DECADES of dehumanization from Israelian and rage from Palestinians. It would have happened anyway. And pushing Trump to power risk that it happens again on a bigger scale.

As for Ukraines, Putin would have done it anyway. Do you think Trump would have stopped him ? Like.. how ? Do you think Trump is some kind of Jesus or what ?

It's crazy how you guyz are deluded and brainwashed into thinking that the guyz is good news.. when all that he did was proved the opposite.

Like I said to ravager, facts bounces on you.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

He do. Even more so than Harris.



That's your point of view but in reality this is not what happened. The mandate of Trump reenforced Putin, reenforced Taliban, reenforced Israel and North Corea.

While he didn't create war, he still reenforced people who are. And that's what you refuse to see.



When there is one that say "please let's discuss" and the other is saying "Palestinian" as a derogatory term and explains that Israel must continue AND you side with the second.. You are the problem here and completely blind to facts.

Do not EVEN DARE say that you support Palestinian by siding with people who consider them like animal. You will find me in your way at every turn.

On top of that you are completely oblivious to Trump far right politics and fascistic rethoric in other domain.. but at this point, who is counting.. ?



OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE.

Do you think that Palestinians will just wait patientely to be oblitarated and oppressed without doing anything for years ? The attack on Israel was something prepared for a long time and the result of DECADES of dehumanization from Israelian and rage from Palestinians. It would have happened anyway. And pushing Trump to power risk that it happens again on a bigger scale.

As for Ukraines, Putin would have done it anyway. Do you think Trump would have stopped him ? Like.. how ? Do you think Trump is some kind of Jesus or what ?

It's crazy how you guyz are deluded and brainwashed into thinking that the guyz is good news.. when all that he did was proved the opposite.

Like I said to ravager, facts bounces on you.

There was barely any war. If anyone reinforced Putin, that is you Democrats lol. Also you basically destroyed Europe, but since your bosses are American you don't care. Awful politicians and complicit with genocide. 40k+ people dead by the people you endorse.

In my opinion, for it to be taken as a mockery of christians specifically, and not christian nationalists, the recent movement of christian nationalism would have to not be taken as a relevant thing, the fact that many christian nationalist groups support Trump would have to be disregarded, the connection between the maga hat and christian nationalism would have to be ignored, and the maga hat in the drawing would have to be taken as a coincidence, and to focus only on the bible in the drawing, or to acknowledge those things, but to think that they are an excuse to actually target just christians in general

Would you say that that's a fair list of requirements?

Also, if that was targetting specifivally christians, when it comes to the issue of someone paying for that, would Jesus want them to pay for it, to be punished for it?,

They put a Bible and a Cross there so it doesn't matter what their intentions were.

 

[Blax Blah]

There was barely any war. If anyone reinforced Putin, that is you Democrats lol. Also you basically destroyed Europe, but since your bosses are American you don't care. Awful politicians and complicit with genocide. 40k+ people dead by the people you endorse.

They put a Bible and a Cross there so it doesn't matter what their intentions were.

Alrighty, would Jesus want them to pay for it?,

 

[Logiko]

There was barely any war.

There is one now. Trump blew on the embers of the conflict.

that is you Democrats lol

I'm a leftist. Democrates are rightist and I'm French Einstein.

Also you basically destroyed Europe

Liberals (rightists) did that. Not leftists.

But this is not the first one that I see someone say this kind of fallacious BS here.

40k+ people dead by the people you endorse.

Like I told you, those people are rightist. On YOUR side. Trump and Harris are both liberals and liberatarian that support Israel

I'm a leftist, I'm opposed to that and those people. Against that's the difference between me - a leftist who oppose genocide and support radical leftist - and you - someone who support people like Trump who support the genocide of Palestinian. We are not the same. You are on the side of the oppression here Billy.

I don't know what you seek by keeping spreading your fallacious lie and of the political spectrum but besides others Trump enjoyers here, no ones is blind.

 

[Blax Blah]

What do you think about Bernie's campaign?

Also is Bernie a social democrat or a democratic socialist?,

 

[Logiko]

What do you think about Bernie's campaign?

Also is Bernie a social democrat or a democratic socialist?,

I'd say he is a social democrat.

 

[Blax Blah]

I'd say he is a social democrat.

I heard he was a social democrat but I didn't check which one, and I think DSA stands for democratic socialists of America so that would maybe be the party Bernie is a part of if he was a democratic socialist right?,

 

[Logiko]

I heard he was a social democrat but I didn't check which one, and I think DSA stands for democratic socialists of America so that would maybe be the party Bernie is a part of if he was a democratic socialist right?,

I was saying social democrat as the spectrum of social democracy from the left of liberals to a radical leftist like me. Technically I'm still a social democrat since I do not advocate for a revolution. I'm just a radical one. Bernie is less radical than me and more radical than regular social democrats I'd say. So I think he is a bit in the middle of leftism.