News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

Wow, so much new information, the one that caught my attention the most was that Kuzan didn't have Acoc, I'm wondering how he beats Kaidou?
Kaido VS Kuzan

1.Haki

Adv CoC, Futur sign, advCoA VS non adv CoC user, no confirmed future sign, only acoa

Kaido haki destroy kuzan.

2.Strength

Kaido lifting a whole Island VS punching ship kuzan
Kaido>>>>>>

3.Durability

Kaido can whistand a barrage of gear 5 attack in a weakened state.

Survived Odens totsuka blade despite it landing cleanly on him (no barrier).

kaido destroy kuzan in durability

4-DC and AP.
Kaido boro breath full power was enough to almost kill nika after beating the later more than 4 time and overcoming an entire gauntlet vs kuzans same me shiryu of Garp will finish me since my ice not working.

DC and AP goes for Kaido.

5. Endurance

Kaido can keep fighting despite sustaining dangerous injury that would beat any other top tier even primebeard.

mainwhile kuzan vanished after being trown by garp.

Kaido endurance >>>>>>> kuzan.

6.Elements. Flame like is as hot as lava>>>>>>Ice

Windstorm that is made of countless wind slash and can affect whole island.

7.move:

thunder Bagua>>>>>>>ice glove.

Kaido destroy on all fields.
 
Kaido VS Kuzan

1.Haki

Adv CoC, Futur sign, advCoA VS non adv CoC user, no confirmed future sign, only acoa

Kaido haki destroy kuzan.

2.Strength

Kaido lifting a whole Island VS punching ship kuzan
Kaido>>>>>>

3.Durability

Kaido can whistand a barrage of gear 5 attack in a weakened state.

Survived Odens totsuka blade despite it landing cleanly on him (no barrier).

kaido destroy kuzan in durability

4-DC and AP.
Kaido boro breath full power was enough to almost kill nika after beating the later more than 4 time and overcoming an entire gauntlet vs kuzans same me shiryu of Garp will finish me since my ice not working.

DC and AP goes for Kaido.

5. Endurance

Kaido can keep fighting despite sustaining dangerous injury that would beat any other top tier even primebeard.

mainwhile kuzan vanished after being trown by garp.

Kaido endurance >>>>>>> kuzan.

6.Elements. Flame like is as hot as lava>>>>>>Ice

Windstorm that is made of countless wind slash and can affect whole island.

7.move:

thunder Bagua>>>>>>>ice glove.

Kaido destroy on all fields.
Kuzan without Acoc was the confirmation I wanted, Kaidou beats any admiral you put in front of him, and in all statistics
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Imu, BB, Akainu. Simple.
Imu is 100% Luffy fight because of Joyboy and freeing the world

BB is 100% Luffy for the PK title

Akainu is a great antagonist but doesn’t have the same end game purpose compared to the other 2.

We are not 100% sure there will be a huge complete fight between Luffy and Akainu. A clash is quite likely but a complete extreme diff end arc fight isn’t.
Akainu can maybe fight someone else : Fujitora, Dragon, Sabo etc
 
Imu is 100% Luffy fight because of Joyboy and freeing the world

BB is 100% Luffy for the PK title

Akainu is a great antagonist but doesn’t have the same end game purpose compared to the other 2.

We are not 100% sure there will be a huge complete fight between Luffy and Akainu. A clash is quite likely but a complete extreme diff end arc fight isn’t.
Akainu can maybe fight someone else : Fujitora, Dragon, Sabo etc
On that, I'll Just say this (one of many considerations in fact, but the most symbolic):





And there are others too, like Zoro and Mihawk.

I really don't see why Akainu should be only expection of the manga on this, outise of not wanting him at a certain level.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
On that, I'll Just say this (one of many considerations in fact, but the most symbolic):





And there are others too, like Zoro and Mihawk.

I really don't see why Akainu should be only expection of the manga on this, outise of not wanting him at a certain level.
When do you think Luffy will have time to 1 vs 1 extreme diff Akainu ? In which arc ?
 
When do you think Luffy will have time to 1 vs 1 extreme diff Akainu ? In which arc ?
That akainu vs lucfy wotn happen

If 6 WG top tiers can't be Luffy's serious fight
Akainu isn't getting an arc where his fight with luffy is the main fight

So forget the pk level nonsense and the akainu vs luffy hope
 
Yeah maybe but I don’t see Luffy going extreme diff with Akainu and then in the same arc going extreme diff and beating Imu

Clashing with Akainu no doubt but a full long fight it’s complicated
Laugh fought against lucci, seraphim (which he didn't even beat) Kizaru (which he didn't beat) and gorosei (which he didn't beat) in a mini arc
I don't see the issue
 
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