Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

He won the vote = best human being




Benefit:
-They open restaurants with spicy food
-Our football teams are full of----- THEM
-They ALL work in jobs that we don't want anymore -- like being a stripper and whatnot.
-The poor ones are locked in "poor neighborhoods" where we send them to schools with each other and they will barely meet gringos from the middle-class in their entire lives, which means they hate us and don't wanna be part of our community
-They are dealing drugs which is actually good because they provide what 50% of our population asks for (or asked for at a point in their lives). Maybe we should legalize their jobs but not their migrant status


Negative points:
-They're eating the dogs with spices
-They are naturally/culturally inclined to violence and will ignite a pro-Kim Jong-Un revolution from the poor neighborhoods
-They steal my job by existing. Very bad. The other day some Turkish dude was hired instead of me
-They vote for the wrong candidates --- or do they even vote ?
-Their gods, if they have any, are wrong too but at least we won't be together in the after life
-Some of them are in relationships with kidnap our ladies and make us look like losers
-GDP grows, which is bad for the environment




As you can see, negative points are slightly winning. Final Solution would be to ask them to leave

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That's gonna be a long ride.

Wrong city

Anyway. Imagine offering medical help to everyone that disagrees with your statements. Talk about petty and sensitive.

 

[Logiko]

C4N is a total fucking nutjob, He's so worried about a Country not his own. Talk about mixed priorities.

That's called empathy Genius.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

That's called empathy Genius.

Not popular here. Try sociopathy and they'll love you.

 

[Logiko]

Not popular here. Try sociopathy and they'll love you.

It seems more fitting for this forum indeed.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That's called empathy Genius.

No, that's a lie. You just want the countries policy to mirror only what you want.

 

[Mathias]

Never said that lol

"He can't win the popular vote while being racist and sexist" is nonsensical. This is pure populism to say that the people are always good.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Good thing thats not what i did

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

"He can't win the popular vote while being racist and sexist" is nonsensical.

Again not what I said. I said not all the people who voted for him were not doing it out of racism or sexism. That's ridiculous and a pretty insulting accusation. You're literally calling @Zemmi and @Ravagerblade self hating racists.

 

[Mathias]

Again not what I said. I said not all the people who voted for him were not doing it out of racism or sexism. That's ridiculous and a pretty insulting accusation. You're literally calling @Zemmi and @Ravagerblade self hating racists.

What does "He won the popular vote. Racism and sexism don't do that." even supposed to mean then ?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

What does "He won the popular vote. Racism and sexism don't do that." even supposed to mean then ?

Do you believe over half of the country would vote for Trump because all of them are racist and sexist? Yes or no?

If yes do explain.

 

[Logiko]

No, that's a lie. You just want the countries policy to mirror only what you want.

If this was that simple...

You're literally calling @Zemmi and @Ravagerblade self hating racists.

You are doing that yourself.

I said not all the people who voted for him were not doing it out of racism or sexism

That's because you do not understand the far right vote. In France, we do. Because we fought it and we beat it... kinda

People who vote for far rightists are voting FACTUALLY against their interests there is NOT ONE argument in favor of Trump, Lepen, Meloni or Milei based on Economy that holds up against the fact and the studied reality of politics.

The vote for those people is based on IDENTITARY values. Nothing else.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

You are doing that yourself.

LMAO amazing projection there.

ONE argument in favor of Trump, Lepen, Meloni or Milei based on Economy that holds up against the fact and the studied reality of politics.

Trump focused topics people actually cared about, like inflation and the border. It's irrelevant whether or not he actually holds himself to his promise, he knew how to "make the sell" so to speak.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

"He can't win the popular vote while being racist and sexist" is nonsensical. This is pure populism to say that the people are always good.

The people are not monolithic

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Toby D. Dog they're out here trying to gaslight your boy

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Trump focused topics people actually cared about, like inflation and the border. It's irrelevant whether or not he actually holds himself to his promise, he knew how to "make the sell" so to speak

This is true. He’s the king of branding, he was able to sell these things to his supporters and even made gains with Hispanics and other minorities.

So yeah, not everybody supporting him is racist or sexist, nor do I think that’s the reason Kamala lost. This is just the inevitable result after the Democratic Party has failed to materially deliver for the people.

That being said, It is still mind boggling to see how people still believe Trump cares about them and is willing to fight the good fight for your average Joe. After all the money he took from foreign governments, got rid of important provisions for Obamacare, and has served the interests of corporations, it really makes me feel that we’re willing to ignore his corruption since for some reason, he’s not held at the same standard as democrats.

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@Toby D. Dog they're out here trying to gaslight your boy

I’m already defending you.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Trump finna bring the archwizard to our side.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Just so you guys understand, labeling all these guys racist and sexist will alienate them from voting for the other side next time around.

Do I think a big chunk of them are racists and fascists? For sure. But when you see a bunch of swing voters go for Obama, then for Trump, then for Biden, and now back to Trump, you have to recognize a lot of them are voting for what they think will be better for their own wallet.

They’re wrong of course, and they’ve failed to recognize we’re rolling the dice here. But that’s their reasoning which I can understand at the very least.

 

[Mathias]

Do you believe over half of the country would vote for Trump because all of them are racist and sexist? Yes or no?

If yes do explain.

Yes they can, yes they did.

Someone who wants great scale deportation of "illegals because they eat dogs" and wants to control pussies is a racist and a sexist.

As for those who vote for him. As a whole, they are at different levels of racism.

In order to be intolerant you just have to be indifferent.

Indifference is hugely common in mankind.

I know Turkish people who consider themselves "only citizen in France" and who endorse LePen because they want to be in line with the far-right that they endorse in Türkiye. They hate Syrians in Turkiye and in Europe. These Turks are racists but are too fucking dense to understand that LePen would treat them worse too.

I know Israeli people who are French too that endorse LePen whose party was created by a neo-nazi. Is it really out of touch to say that these Israelis' hate is so big that they'd rather ally with the historical enemy to attack "a common foe" ?

The enemies of their enemies is their friend. The French-Nazis who hate all Arabs (roughly neighbors of Israel) are Israel's friends.

Sometimes it can be self-hating yeah. I know black people who tell me about their grand-parents who hate black people (/racism). They tell their grand-children who are lawyers that their "niggers hair could be used to clean up the floor or the shit in the toilet" or "a **** can't be a lawyer like the good white men".

Just so you guys understand, labeling all these guys racist and sexist will alienate them from voting for the other side next time around.

Do I think a big chunk of them are racists and fascists? For sure. But when you see a bunch of swing voters go for Obama, then for Trump, then for Biden, and now back to Trump, you have to recognize a lot of them are voting for what they think will be better for their own wallet.

They’re wrong of course, but that’s their reasoning which I can understand at the very least.

Racist people can vote Obama and "have black friends" too.

 

[Ravagerblade]

When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.
A quote I saw, seems very apt.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

We need to look at who tried to kill him so far. One was a Jewish guy who used to go to same firing range as the Services, the other one is a volunteer for Ukraine.

idk what you’re trying to imply

but I don’t think there’s any overarching plot connecting these events. Trump is a controversial and powerful figure, lots of people want him dead. It’s the reason why secret service exists to begin with.