I think you’re misinterpreting my point, it has nothing to do with Obama’s race, it has to do with what these people believe will be more beneficial to their finances, which is misguided.
Examples ? These rich people made a choice, getting richer at a certain price.

But the Dems or Macron are already very much with rich people.

They don't even have to go for LePen/Trump to increase their finances.


European parties, right wings included, are completely subservient to Israel. Historical enemy my ass. Have fun being stuck in the forties.
Israel and LePen weren't friends until recently
 
Yes they can, yes they did.

Someone who wants great scale deportation of "illegals because they eat dogs" and wants to control pussies is a racist and a sexist.

As for those who vote for him. As a whole, they are at different levels of racism.

In order to be intolerant you just have to be indifferent.

Indifference is hugely common in mankind.

I know Turkish people who consider themselves "only citizen in France" and who endorse LePen because they want to be in line with the far-right that they endorse in Türkiye. They hate Syrians in Turkiye and in Europe. These Turks are racists but are too fucking dense to understand that LePen would treat them worse too.

I know Israeli people who are French too that endorse LePen whose party was created by a neo-nazi. Is it really out of touch to say that these Israelis' hate is so big that they'd rather ally with the historical enemy to attack "a common foe" ?

The enemies of their enemies is their friend. The French-Nazis who hate all Arabs (roughly neighbors of Israel) are Israel's friends.

Sometimes it can be self-hating yeah. I know black people who tell me about their grand-parents who hate black people (/racism). They tell their grand-children who are lawyers that their "niggers hair could be used to clean up the floor or the shit in the toilet" or "a **** can't be a lawyer like the good white men".




Racist people can vote Obama and "have black friends" too.
"control pussies" LMFAO:HappyClown:
 
Racist people can vote Obama and "have black friends" too.
Racist people can likewise fanboy over black musicians and also be racist towards average black people and even towards their faves.
Humans don't make sense sometimes.

Yes they can, yes they did.

Someone who wants great scale deportation of "illegals because they eat dogs" and wants to control pussies is a racist and a sexist.

As for those who vote for him. As a whole, they are at different levels of racism.

In order to be intolerant you just have to be indifferent.

Indifference is hugely common in mankind.

I know Turkish people who consider themselves "only citizen in France" and who endorse LePen because they want to be in line with the far-right that they endorse in Türkiye. They hate Syrians in Turkiye and in Europe. These Turks are racists but are too fucking dense to understand that LePen would treat them worse too.

I know Israeli people who are French too that endorse LePen whose party was created by a neo-nazi. Is it really out of touch to say that these Israelis' hate is so big that they'd rather ally with the historical enemy to attack "a common foe" ?

The enemies of their enemies is their friend. The French-Nazis who hate all Arabs (roughly neighbors of Israel) are Israel's friends.
There's people that made their political alignment their identity. Like there's people who make their disability or their gender their identity. The takeaway from all this drama is that nowadays many are confused and are looking for a sense of belonging which has eroded over the past century or so as a result of long distance migrations and urbanisation.
Sometimes it can be self-hating yeah. I know black people who tell me about their grand-parents who hate black people (/racism). They tell their grand-children who are lawyers that their "niggers hair could be used to clean up the floor or the shit in the toilet" or "a **** can't be a lawyer like the good white men".
Ah yes I am familiar with racism within mixed families. :saden:


Indeed.



Those two things are not exclusive.



They are ALREADY alienated. The reactance theory is fallacious.

If there is one thing french politics can give you as an example is that trying to think that people who vote for far rightist do not have an identitary agenda is delusionnal.

In France we had a sayin in the early 2000' "faché pas facho" which translate as "angry not fascist". It was a leftist slogan meant to make people think that those who were voting for conservatives and far right people were not really racist or fascist but simply very angry at the economical situation.

It worked a few year until this july election, where the left started to witness the fact that NO MATTER how much we showed to people that the far right was completely BShiting factually and that we would raise the wages, lower the retirement agen give less to big business, tax the big corporations and the 1%.. AT NO POINT when presented measure that they DO agree with (because the polls are clear, they do agree with pretty much all the social and economical measure of the left) they were willing to change their vote.

The vote for the far right is DEEPLY identitary. And that's by understanding that the left in France managed to strike back against the far right during these July elections while fighting for Palestine, migrants, minorities etc.

There are two things:

- Democrates failed the working class
- The far right rallied all people with an identitary agenda.

It was destined to be a loss. And unless people in the united states start to understand that you WON'T be able to get the votes of those people back, you will face a very dark age of conservatism and reactionnary politics.
They feel good when in a crowd of seemingly like-minded folks and collectively hating on a common enemy aka scapegoat releases more endorphins than to have a good life.
 
I don't. And I kinda already answered that in a previous message.
All I’m saying is when neoliberalism fails the people, fascism is right around the corner.

Desperate people tend to hitch their wagon to anything that might spell change. You counter that by offering them a revolution of your own, and the Democratic Party isn’t able to deliver that rn.
 
All I’m saying is when neoliberalism fails the people, fascism is right around the corner.

Desperate people tend to hitch their wagon to anything that might spell change. You counter that by offering them a revolution of your own, and the Democratic Party isn’t able to deliver that rn.
Not only change but anything that is extreme. Extreme politically incorrect, rude, hateful etc rhetoric can be an outlet for pent up frustrations. What feels more satisfying than to hurt and kick down another group of people that you know can't fight back?
 
Racist people can likewise fanboy over black musicians and also be racist towards average black people and even towards their faves.
Humans don't make sense sometimes.


There's people that made their political alignment their identity. Like there's people who make their disability or their gender their identity. The takeaway from all this drama is that nowadays many are confused and are looking for a sense of belonging which has eroded over the past century or so as a result of long distance migrations and urbanisation.

Ah yes I am familiar with racism within mixed families. :saden:



They feel good when in a crowd of seemingly like-minded folks and collectively hating on a common enemy aka scapegoat releases more endorphins than to have a good life.
look who is back:PepeNumberOne:
 
This is sadly very true.

That's why to fight the far right, we need to be as radical in the opposite direction.
Yes but also give the people what they need. When basic needs are not met and cost of living becomes unbearable, many people stop functioning normally, it's a psychological stress reaction. The AfD was made big by protest voters. I even gave them my vote once for this exact reason.
Not everyone can be a hobby political analyst and always remain level headed when they face existential stress, and I can't really blame them, even when their perceived political illiteracy drives me nuts. They will flock towards anyone who gives them the illusion of power, anyone who makes them feel heard. The political establishment failed, both in the US and in Germany, the left stopped standing for the rights of the poor, hell the German Green party have become establishment shills that are so far removed from what they used to be when the party was formed, it's mind boggling to think they are the same individuals, when they have changed so greatly.
 
Yes but also give the people what they need. When basic needs are not met and cost of living becomes unbearable, many people stop functioning normally, it's a psychological stress reaction.
Of course.


Not everyone can be a hobby political analyst and always remain level headed when they face existential stress, and I can't really blame them
This is true.. to a certain degree. When people are warned actively multiple times.. I can't really defend them for voting for the worst.

Now.. if you tell me that the left became a bunch a liberal opportunist, I can understand this vote.

You guyz need a strong radical left. In fact everycountry right now need one. I think it's time that the radical left of every country starts to coordinate.
 
Only left wing countries in the world. Btw still coping about Maduro I see.:risitameh:
Why would I cope? I'm not Venezuelan.
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I wouldn't really call those one leftists. More like authoritarians and corrupt countries.

There are no REAL leftist and anti-authoritarian country on earth.
Well, those countries call themselves popular democratic republics hahaahahahahaahahahahaha
 
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