Questions & Mysteries So Shanks and Roger are no swordsmen but have named sword attacks?

#24
Exactly, not only is this textbook evidence shanks is a swordsman, he is one of the most prominent in the verse to the point of being used to scale mihawk
If you all checked my thread you would understand. What you all miss is that even though Shanks is a worse swordsman he can still be more powerful. Just like stuff like this happen in other stories.
Check out fate, literally Artoria is a "Saber class" servant , is considered a weaker swordsman THAN lancelot and is still a stronger servant.
I dunno why you all exclude the possibility of this happening here, I can understand the "we don't know yet" but i don't understand the "nah that's illogical".
 
#27
It already happened...

WB in MF
WB was definitely the strongest man in the world at that time, he got the gura who allows him to destroy the world, top 1 strength and every form of haki, not as much as he might have before for sure but it doesn't mean he lost his spot. He got shot, stabbed took canon balls, got half his face deleted and a hole in the chest but still stood 10 toes deep into the ground, not even bowing down to death itself. In my opinion that sounds more like a you problem. Funnily enough, Bb the character who actually discuss the reality of his title get immediately shat on.
You have to also consider if these titles were for sales in the first place, no one took on the mantle of wsm after wb's death for example. On the contrary, being the wss is canonically a competition in the manga with zoro and shanks serving as contenders for the title. But ultimately the peak of swordsmanship is a black blade something only mihawk achieved, this is a concrete evidence of his undeniable legitimacy.
 
#28
WB was definitely the strongest man in the world at that time, he got the gura who allows him to destroy the world, top 1 strength and every form of haki, not as much as he might have before for sure but it doesn't mean he lost his spot.
He was literally having heart attacks and couldn't use basic coc...

He got shot, stabbed took canon balls, got half his face deleted and a hole in the chest but still stood 10 toes deep into the ground, not even bowing down to death itself.
Lol. So your point for WB still being the WSM is that he died?

Funnily enough, Bb the character who actually discuss the reality of his title get immediately shat on.
Cause BB was not a top tier back then...

You have to also consider if these titles were for sales in the first place, no one took on the mantle of wsm after wb's death for example.
"People say Kaido is wsc"

On the contrary, being the wss is canonically a competition in the manga with zoro and shanks serving as contenders for the title.
Shanks ain't contending. Zoro is the only named/relevant character we know of that is pursuing the wss title.

But ultimately the peak of swordsmanship is a black blade something only mihawk achieved, this is a concrete evidence of his undeniable legitimacy.
GB.
 
#29
He was literally having heart attacks and couldn't use basic coc...


Lol. So your point for WB still being the WSM is that he died?


Cause BB was not a top tier back then...


"People say Kaido is wsc"


Shanks ain't contending. Zoro is the only named/relevant character we know of that is pursuing the wss title.


GB.
GB does not have a black blade, I am sorry to say it but if you believe so you re definitely kind of slow:pepeke:
 
#31
Some people (like @Chaves) argued that Shanks picked up moves like Divine Departure later, after his rivalry with Mihawk. But given Shanks learned it while being on Roger's ship, it means he had access to that move when fighting Mihawk and Mihawk acknowledged him as a rival in regards to swordsmanship, and we know Mihawk is pretty nitpicky and has a strict honor codex when it comes to swordsmanship.
 
#32
If Mihawk is so strong and every sword user is a swordsman then why Mihawk never beaten Bigmom or Fujitora etc... It is a titşe based on skill.
Why didn't Shanks beat BigMom Fujitora Kaido or Admirals? This is so funny when both sides brings up why didn't x beat x character...

Like guys this can go both ways... both sides should just accept that they are both equals.
 
#37
You guys still didn‘t answer my question.

Why would the rat even duel mihawk in the first place like he did in the past, if he isn‘t s swordsman? Why would he even bother to do that?
He might have done it just for fun or to train his swordsmanship , he is after all friends with Mihawk,
 
#39
He might have done it just for fun or to train his swordsmanship , he is after all friends with Mihawk,
And why would mihawk consider dueling someone who does swordsmanship for fun? Mihawk has his Pride. He even straight out called Shanks a one armed has been and that he wouldn‘t settle scores with an cripple.

Explain to me how your argument fits Mihawks portrayal of his personality?
 
#40
If you all checked my thread you would understand. What you all miss is that even though Shanks is a worse swordsman he can still be more powerful. Just like stuff like this happen in other stories.
Check out fate, literally Artoria is a "Saber class" servant , is considered a weaker swordsman THAN lancelot and is still a stronger servant.
I dunno why you all exclude the possibility of this happening here, I can understand the "we don't know yet" but i don't understand the "nah that's illogical".
It is illogical and stupid. Zoro wants to be the strongest. How will he become the strongest? That question and its answer is all you need to refute your cope thread
 
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