Speculations The Beasts of Destiny!
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Those examples are even more worthless than the Orochi one. With all the different types of swordsmanship alluded to or directly mentioned, like fire-cutting, currently a master swordsman should be able to maneuver his sword in a deadlier fashion than a snake-blade would, and with added elemental effects to boot.
If Shiryu's threat level comes from his becoming completely invisible, then a snake-blade won't add much to it in his fight with Zoro. If the sword is fed a DF at all, it has to be something that either amplifies Shiryu's invisibility, or is made all the more tricky to counter by said invisibility.
If Shiryu's threat level comes from his becoming completely invisible, then a snake-blade won't add much to it in his fight with Zoro. If the sword is fed a DF at all, it has to be something that either amplifies Shiryu's invisibility, or is made all the more tricky to counter by said invisibility.
I will tell you what, very specifically.
It can push Santoryu Zoro into a corner.
Inferior frog like Hyozou couldn't achieve that much.
The level of the opponent matters, we know this with Kaku and Hatchan.
Hatchan was 6-sword style user and couldn't do shit on deathbed Zoro.
On the other hand, Kaku's 4-sword style has cornered Santoryu Zoro and Demon God was a result of it.
It can push Santoryu Zoro into a corner.
Inferior frog like Hyozou couldn't achieve that much.
The level of the opponent matters, we know this with Kaku and Hatchan.
Hatchan was 6-sword style user and couldn't do shit on deathbed Zoro.
On the other hand, Kaku's 4-sword style has cornered Santoryu Zoro and Demon God was a result of it.
There are too many Ittoryu style users in Zoro's path, they have to be different in some way.
Mihawk, Shiryu, Venus, Fujitora/Kizaru, all with the same combat style but narrative requires different challenges.
Surely, if we take Fujitora/Kizaru/Venus, the difference comes from Devil Fruits augmenting their swordsmanship allowing for additional abilities such as Gravity, Light and physical buffs among others.
We know Mihawk is the ultimate Hakiman so the final challenge is reserved for a test of haki but what about penultimate test with Shiryu?
He should represent the ultimate DF merchant in Zoro's path and that's why the focus of Blackbeard Pirates are Devil Fruits and sharing a theme with Blackbeard of multiple DFs, Shiryu's sword being fed a DF is logical, because no other has such characteristics.
Mihawk, Shiryu, Venus, Fujitora/Kizaru, all with the same combat style but narrative requires different challenges.
Surely, if we take Fujitora/Kizaru/Venus, the difference comes from Devil Fruits augmenting their swordsmanship allowing for additional abilities such as Gravity, Light and physical buffs among others.
We know Mihawk is the ultimate Hakiman so the final challenge is reserved for a test of haki but what about penultimate test with Shiryu?
He should represent the ultimate DF merchant in Zoro's path and that's why the focus of Blackbeard Pirates are Devil Fruits and sharing a theme with Blackbeard of multiple DFs, Shiryu's sword being fed a DF is logical, because no other has such characteristics.
I can see the logic, I simply don't agree that Shiryu's sword needs a DF, since his own DF is also a test of CoO, especially if he ends up awakening the fruit and become able to turn invisible entire chunks of the environment.
Mihawk has the ultimate black blade + mastery of haki
Venus has the hell ice + potential Wano swordsmanship mastery
Fuji & Kiz, if they'll ever get to have a proper fight against Zoro, have DF-backed swordsmanship styles
Shiryu wielding an eight-headed snake-blade would be visually cool, though potentially underwhelming in the grand scheme of things if all it can do is hit from multiple times at once. Fuji's meteors can hit multiple targets, as can Kiz's clones, as can any swordsman with haki slashes.
Mihawk has the ultimate black blade + mastery of haki
Venus has the hell ice + potential Wano swordsmanship mastery
Fuji & Kiz, if they'll ever get to have a proper fight against Zoro, have DF-backed swordsmanship styles
Shiryu wielding an eight-headed snake-blade would be visually cool, though potentially underwhelming in the grand scheme of things if all it can do is hit from multiple times at once. Fuji's meteors can hit multiple targets, as can Kiz's clones, as can any swordsman with haki slashes.
True, the right-hand man of a character whose entire shtick is juggling multiple DFs at once should himself reflect this theme, and at the moment Shiryu is lacking.
If down the line it gets revealed that one can only accomplish a black blade by being fully aligned with the sword's spirit, like with DF awakenings, I could see Shiryu feed a DF to his sword as a counter to him being unable to or uninterested in turning a blade black.
Shiryu is a sneaky fighter, so him awakening the Invisible Invisible No Mi makes sense, but he doesn't strike me like the sort of person who gets attached to a sword. He uses what's best; if the weapon's found lacking, he tosses it aside for the next best thing. As such, he might even be the sort to make Spandam's Frankfurt into a proper threat.
As for your analysis of Luffy/Zoro and snakes/birds, that's really eye-opening. Chapeau, nik!
If down the line it gets revealed that one can only accomplish a black blade by being fully aligned with the sword's spirit, like with DF awakenings, I could see Shiryu feed a DF to his sword as a counter to him being unable to or uninterested in turning a blade black.
Shiryu is a sneaky fighter, so him awakening the Invisible Invisible No Mi makes sense, but he doesn't strike me like the sort of person who gets attached to a sword. He uses what's best; if the weapon's found lacking, he tosses it aside for the next best thing. As such, he might even be the sort to make Spandam's Frankfurt into a proper threat.
As for your analysis of Luffy/Zoro and snakes/birds, that's really eye-opening. Chapeau, nik!
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