Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1132 Spoilers Discussion

[L57]

Imagine listing Queen as part of good moment
He was trash, Zou Jack was still more threatening than this Queen clown. Gotta give it to him though, for rightfully mentioning Judge's son with the right nickname. Dude turned into a jobber without his daddy's power up.

But actually imagine Hiyori was actually Queen. Now that's good.

Sanji fans man,they think goofy shit character is interesting

 

[Topi Jerami]

Zou Jack >>>>>>>> Queen

no doubt about that

but Wano Jack 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

the fact that we have to make a difference between Zou and Wano jack is telling about Wano quality lol

and Yeah Queen was kinda fun, his fight with Sanji was bad but the man was kinda cool

I won’t even talk about King

Wano Jack > Queen too. Wano Jack went to Rooftop, acted like Kaido's last line of defense, while Queen was busy below shooting at their own subordinates.

Queen wasn't fun, everyone here knows the only ones praising him are Sanji fans. Had he fight someone else like Chopper, then he won't have any fans left. Unlike King who still has loyal fans no matter he fought Zoro or not.
Of course you wouldn't talk about King, because he makes every other from Queen, Zou Jack to Big Mom's sweet commanders all look bad.

Real Queen should be Hiyori, not that mad clown.
Imagine Hiyori turned heel because she actually bonded with Beast Pirates after Kaido saved her life. Or because she was disappointed with Oden's retardation similar way Doffy was disappointed with his father.
Then she fights against Yamato, Oden's corrupted daughter vs Kaido's daughter.

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Ignore the deflated bounty. But Queen Hiyori > Queen the Judge's friend.

 

[RayanOO]

Imagine Hiyori turned heel because she actually bonded with Beast Pirates after Kaido saved her life. Or because she was disappointed with Oden's retardation similar way Doffy was disappointed with his father.

This has potential but Violet during DR has a slimiar (yeah it’s different but Oda already did that)

And if Hiyori really switched side Sanji would have never fought her but it would have been Momo or Adult Momo (would have been far better storyline than what we had with both)

 

[Patryipe]

Is it finally time for Lopper Laban to be relevant?

 

[Boing]

Bellamy

 

[Topi Jerami]

This has potential but Violet during DR has a slimiar (yeah it’s different but Oda already did that)

And if Hiyori really switched side Sanji would have never fought her but it would have been Momo or Adult Momo (would have been far better storyline than what we had with both)

Well Viola never genuinely supported Donquxiote Family. Hiyori in this fanfict should genuinely supported Beast Pirates, either Kaido saved her life from some samurai, adopter her like how he adopted King. Or she had enough with Oden's retardation. That doing nothing but dancing naked for 5 years should have more consequence, as in her daughter thought the her whole family and country went to ruins because Oden was retarded.

Yeah Sanji never has any chance but there is always Flying Six. Imo, Yamato (that is cosplaying Oden and is Kaido's own daughter) fighting evil Hiyori is more fitting though than Momo. Makes more sense powerlevel wise too, than 8 year old that just regained his real age can suddenly defeat a Calamity level.

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Anyway Queen the Judge's friend that we canonically have is total bum @RayanOO
Apparently he is Franky's dad but the 2 never interacted too.

 

[RayanOO]

Yeah Sanji never has any chance but there is always Flying Six. Imo, Yamato (that is cosplaying Oden and is Kaido's own daughter) fighting evil Hiyori is more fitting though than Momo. Makes more sense powerlevel wise too, than 8 year old that just regained his real age can suddenly defeat a Calamity level.

Hiyori with both Oden swords vs Yamato could have been cool too , a 360 from the past

Adult Momo with the Ame no Abakiri vs Bad Hiyori with Enma has potential too (even if yeah it would be a bit weird PL wise but I don’t think Oda cares that much)

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Apparently he is Franky's dad but the 2 never interacted too.

If true it’s an utter wano nonesense

I choose to stay in denial and this detail doesn’t exist for me

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Of course you wouldn't talk about King, because he makes every other from Queen, Zou Jack to Big Mom's sweet commanders all look bad.

…..

Character wise :
Cracker and Kata >>>>> King
Zou Jack >>>>>>>> King
Queen >> King

King the least interesting and fleshed RH in the whole manga

 

[Sentinel]

Wano Jack > Queen too. Wano Jack went to Rooftop, acted like Kaido's last line of defense, while Queen was busy below shooting at their own subordinates.

Queen wasn't fun, everyone here knows the only ones praising him are Sanji fans. Had he fight someone else like Chopper, then he won't have any fans left. Unlike King who still has loyal fans no matter he fought Zoro or not.
Of course you wouldn't talk about King, because he makes every other from Queen, Zou Jack to Big Mom's sweet commanders all look bad.

Real Queen should be Hiyori, not that mad clown.
Imagine Hiyori turned heel because she actually bonded with Beast Pirates after Kaido saved her life. Or because she was disappointed with Oden's retardation similar way Doffy was disappointed with his father.
Then she fights against Yamato, Oden's corrupted daughter vs Kaido's daughter.

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Ignore the deflated bounty. But Queen Hiyori > Queen the Judge's friend.

You're cooking with this idea but unfortunately, Oda had a different idea set for her...

Also, Jack >>> Queen even if Jack came out featless (when it comes to named attacks, fishman karate) but at least he owned 100 Sulong Minks then fought Sulong Inu in a fight. Oda completely robbed Jack off his interesting skills and I'm still pissed about it.

King was perfect as he is but come on, no CoC? Okay but awakening should be shown man... Fucking Kaku had awakening but King didn't?

 

[The White Crane]

Yes. Or we would still be stuck with Luffy and Zoro fighting Road

 

[RayanOO]

King was perfect as he is

How ?

lunarian background was the only semi ingesting shit about him

Boring aesthetic
Boring and extra confusing skill set (flame on /off clusterfuck)
Boring and confusing personality (sadistic part was completely put aside)
An other « mask » after Katakuri
0 interesting interactions
A boring fight with Zoro
Etc etc

Compare him with Kata, Marco, Ben, Shiryu etc
The man was void as fuck and barely relevant

Also, Jack >>> Queen even if Jack came out featless (when it comes to named attacks, fishman karate) but at least he owned 100 Sulong Minks then fought Sulong Inu in a fight. Oda completely robbed Jack off his interesting skills and I'm still pissed about it.

During Wano Jack was far worse than Queen

His fight with Inu was an insult, his hybrid lame as fuck, bullied by King and Queen etc etc

Zou Jack shii ou ils have been the YC1 of the BP

 

[trav]

Cracker and Kata >>>>> King

Cracker: 4 lines of dialogue and no backstory, glass chin
Katakuri: a fraud and a dumbfuck with a fake emo personality, glass chin
King: WG wants him badly, strongest race alive, lone survivor, government guinea pig, basis for the seraphim

We all know why you felt the need to make this statment.
Your are not helping your own agenda by being dumb as fuck.

 

[Pedroxdd]

Scooper Gaban is now a Tree

Blud getting absorbed by greenbull

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Silhouette guy is xebec

 

[Topi Jerami]

Hiyori with both Oden swords vs Yamato could have been cool too , a 360 from the past

Adult Momo with the Ame no Abakiri vs Bad Hiyori with Enma has potential too (even if yeah it would be a bit weird PL wise but I don’t think Oda cares that much)

I think it somewhat makes sense if Oda made path of Hiyori genuinely sided with Beast Pirates. The build up could be, Hiyori was always closer to her mom Toki and 1 of the retainer (let's say Kawamatsu) than her daddy Oden because Oden cared more about his ego in adventure than well being of family and country. Then Oden went more full retarded with what happened in canon, dancing naked for 5 years. End result: both Toki and Kawamatsu got killed by Orochi's goons (not Beast Pirates).
Hiyori thinking how his dad was selfish, retarded and incompetent and caused the death of Toki, Kawamatsu and Wano in ruin (instead of Oda trying hard portraying Oden as likeable and perfect). Among that and Kaido noticed the darkness and potential in her, giving her protection and good life. She could be loyal to Kaido but not to Orochi who killed Toki and Kawamatsu.

Character wise :
Cracker and Kata >>>>> King
Zou Jack >>>>>>>> King
Queen >> King

King the least interesting and fleshed RH in the whole manga

Lmao
What is even Cracker's character?? That he is a pussy hiding under his biscuit armor? That he can't tolerate pain and has fodder tier endurance??

King surpassed Kaido in his most hyped stats, durabilty. Let that sink in
Does Beckman have better CoC than Shanks?
Does Katakuri have better durability than Big Mom? He only surpasses Big Mom in CoO, where Big Mom's CoC is actually trash.
Does Marco have better DC than Whitebeard?
Does Zoro have better legendary DF than Luffy?

King was perfect as he is but come on, no CoC? Okay but awakening should be shown man... Fucking Kaku had awakening but King didn't?

That's not King's fault bro.
Oda was really not himself when drawing Onigashima arc. Even Kaido, Big Mom, and also Marco, Queen, none showed awakening.

 

[RayanOO]

Cracker: 4 lines of dialogue and no backstory, glass chin
Katakuri: a fraud and a dumbfuck with a fake emo personality, glass chin
King: WG wants him badly, strongest race alive, lone survivor, government guinea pig, basis for the seraphim

We all know why you felt the need to make this statment.
Your are not helping your own agenda by being dumb as fuck.

Lmao I couldn’t care less about the agenda

would have been dope if King was pure greatness

I don’t feel the need to shit on every opponent at all to be at ease

Kaku was >>>>> character wise compared to Jabra for exemple

But King was objectively a bum

Cracker: 4 lines of dialogue and no backstory, glass chin

Yet during his 10 chapter apparence the man was ten times cooler than King sorry
Nice powers and original, cunning and sly etc

The man left me a better impression than King whole career
especially because of what King could have become and should have become

Katakuri: a fraud and a dumbfuck with a fake emo personality, glass chin

Loooool

for all the shortcomings Kata can have he is so far of King it’s not even funny

Far better entrance and hype
Dope powers and original way of fighting
Great choreography against Snakeman
Badass design with or without scarf
More interesting character wise
Far far more important during WCI than King was during Wano

etc etc etc

King: WG wants him badly, strongest race alive, lone survivor, government guinea pig, basis for the seraphim

Good for him but that doesn’t make him a good character in the slightest
Everything about him is being a lunarian it’s not even about him himself

 

[Topi Jerami]

0 interesting interactions

Salty Queen boy

We have Kaido and King's exclusive interaction where Kaido brought ONLY King to Marineford.
We have King and Queen's interaction while they are bickering in front of each other, but behind his back Queen admitted his inferiority and wanked King like a cheerleader.

During Wano Jack was far worse than Queen

His fight with Inu was an insult, his hybrid lame as fuck, bullied by King and Queen etc etc

Zou Jack shii ou ils have been the YC1 of the BP

Nah.
Wano Jack went to Rooftop to aid Kaido. Queen shot his own subordinates while he knows the crew was in biggest danger again after 20 years.
Queen was retarded and incompetent. Jack should have betrayed Queen like how Hiyori should have betrayed Oden.

 

[Rurushu]

All Calamities are complete bums.

BMP is way cooler.
Especially Kata character wise.

 

[Buusatan94]

WCI pre bomb was very good.
Pedro and Brook duo mission. Mystery of Pudding's true nature. The hype of Veterans, Smoothie and Katakuri. The hype of Big Mom.

Sulong Carrot was shit though. I never really avoided debate like will Big Mom fall, Zoro vs Sanji, Yonko vs Admiral etc. But during Sulong Carrot moment. I really didn't want to see next nakama thread, reading those Carrot fans. Carrot4Nakama hype train blah blah, perfect lookout blahblah.


Bruh, as shit as Wano was, it still had good and memorable moments.
- Kaido's DF reveal: huge dragon appeared in sky and shocked everyone
- Roger and Whitebeard's adventure
- Some plot were actually good. Like that 1 SMILE village that can only laugh while Yasuie died.

Egghead though. It felt like all of it are bad. Wano had up and downs. Egghead didn't have any major ups. Even if there was, the good points are lower than Wano's.

For comparison, people said Wano's better point was Roger/WB adventure. But still, the adventure was heavily linked to Oden, that is Wano's central character.
Egghead? People said Egghead's better point was Hachinosu. Nobody relevant from Egghead was involved in Hachinosu. Hachinosu that carried Egghead arc, didn't have anything related to Egghead at all.
Thoughts? @Buusatan94 @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk

WCI was the arc when my hype and hopes for the manga were at their highest, with the peak coming during the wedding tea party, and then the tamatebakko explosion happened and everything went down after.

 

[RayanOO]

think it somewhat makes sense if Oda made path of Hiyori genuinely sided with Beast Pirates. The build up could be, Hiyori was always closer to her mom Toki and 1 of the retainer (let's say Kawamatsu) than her daddy Oden because Oden cared more about his ego in adventure than well being of family and country. Then Oden went more full retarded with what happened in canon, dancing naked for 5 years. End result: both Toki and Kawamatsu got killed by Orochi's goons (not Beast Pirates).
Hiyori thinking how his dad was selfish, retarded and incompetent and caused the death of Toki, Kawamatsu and Wano in ruin (instead of Oda trying hard portraying Oden as likeable and perfect). Among that and Kaido noticed the darkness and potential in her, giving her protection and good life. She could be loyal to Kaido but not to Orochi who killed Toki and Kawamatsu.

Oda shat the bed big time

there were 100 ways of making Wano more interesting and the samurai plot line meaningful

King surpassed Kaido in his most hyped stats, durabilty. Let that sink in
Does Beckman have better CoC than Shanks?
Does Katakuri have better durability than Big Mom? He only surpasses Big Mom in CoO, where Big Mom's CoC is actually trash.
Does Marco have better DC than Whitebeard?
Does Zoro have better legendary DF than Luffy?

Good for him but you are listing power level thing
His character was void as fuck

 

[Buusatan94]

Hiyori with both Oden swords vs Yamato could have been cool too , a 360 from the past

Adult Momo with the Ame no Abakiri vs Bad Hiyori with Enma has potential too (even if yeah it would be a bit weird PL wise but I don’t think Oda cares that much)

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If true it’s an utter wano nonesense

I choose to stay in denial and this detail doesn’t exist for me

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…..

Character wise :
Cracker and Kata >>>>> King
Zou Jack >>>>>>>> King
Queen >> King

King the least interesting and fleshed RH in the whole manga

It's still baffling to see how neglected and wasted the Beast Pirates have been, like the BMP they had some crazy potential as fighters and characters but not only the plot was literally against them but even worse their personalities, interactions with each other and dynamics as a crew were never really developped.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Oda shat the bed big time

there were 100 ways of making Wano more interesting and the samurai plot line meaningful




Good for him but you are listing power level thing
His character was void as fuck

The only one accompanying Kaido to Marineford
The one Queen wanked behind his back like a cheerleader
The one whose race was hyped by Whitebeard

Also his dialogue with Kaido in flashback was kinda cool
"I don't care about Joyboy anymore, my life is for you. You stay the strongest"

What is Kata's best interaction with other BMP?
He was only closest with Brulee. And that's it
So called family guy but prioritized in dumb fair fight and stabbed his own stomach when he knows his family was in greatest danger ever.