Spoiler One Piece Chapter 986 Spoilers Discussion

[MarineHQ]

Do you know what the word 'confirmed' means? You can say he has better feats than BM and Kaido? but confirmed? Also is Shanks not a Yonko anymore?

Hardly anything power level wise is getting confirmed in the manga, that would just kill the discussion and prevent the fandom from being as engaged in the series as we are now.

Yes, the feats are obviously the major factor here. The difference in CoO and CoA feats between Big mom/Kaidou/Teach and Primebeard are so far from each other that it's hardly comparable.

Shanks is a Yonkou, but what has he shown that comes even remotely close to Primebeard's Haki?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Ive been on the forum long enough to see it
not sure why you disagree
you think am wrong?

 

[Seraphoenix]

comrade , hades and bogard are the most objective debaters in the forum
no agendas with those lot.

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shanks hasnt shown better haki than big mom
big mom coc changed the weather

You just had to insert the troll pick with hades huh? :smithnie:

His feat on WB's ship while holding back>

They all changed the weather though, not just BM.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

ravage isnt a flat earther tho

My bad then

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

You just had to insert the troll pick with hades huh? :smithnie:

His feat on WB's ship while holding back>

They all changed the weather though, not just BM.

wym
hades aint a troll pick

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You just had to insert the troll pick with hades huh? :smithnie:

His feat on WB's ship while holding back>

They all changed the weather though, not just BM.

he wasnt holding back
infact he apologized for blasting his haki like that sera

 

[Seraphoenix]

Hardly anything power level wise is getting confirmed in the manga, that would just kill the discussion and prevent the fandom from being as engaged in the series as we are now.

Yes, the feats are obviously the major factor here. The difference in CoO and CoA feats between Big mom/Kaidou/Teach and Primebeard are so far from each other that it's hardly comparable.

Shanks is a Yonkou, but what has he shown that comes even remotely close to Primebeard's Haki?

His haki is described as amazing by Jozu who was well aware of WB's haki.

At this stage we can't say it's confirmed if none of them have had extended fights.

 

[Zowo]

 

[Ravagerblade]

Ive been on the forum long enough to see it
not sure why you disagree
you think am wrong?

I'd like to consider myself a bit Objective if you don't mind. I may get heated but I look at what seems to be logical. though I guess on certain subjects.

 

[SinOfGreed]

 

[Venom]

King has nothing to land hits on Katakuri
King reaction speed sucks, his CoO is average.
How does he even beat pre fs Luffy? He's not also a physical beast asg4 or Kaido and BM
Only people above high tiers can have FS! If you are not a top tier or on Kata level, you can't have FS.

Rayleigh said "Mightiest"
While King isn't even considered mightier than flyers and Queen. He isn't even above top 4 retainers. Nobody from alliance has hyped King to be somewhat extra.

I've said it, King and Marco have nothing to even beat Cracker or pre fs g4 Luffy.
You guys will realise it soon.
Only top tiers + skilled inbetweeners can match or beat Kata and fs Luffy

Noodle I too love katakuri but plzz wait for further chapters before jumping to conclusion.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I'd like to consider myself a bit Objective if you don't mind. I may get heated but I look at what seems to be logical. though I guess on certain subjects.

well i dont think you make a good assessment of yourself
I dont see anyone vouching for you either
safe to say
its all in your head

 

[MarineHQ]

When you smoke weed

When you take drugs.

Kaido didn't use hybrid, BM didn't have her homies and wasn't at full power
Both never used hardening CoA as Roger and wb

You're full of shit, it's embarrassing. How does Kaidou not being in hybrid influence his Haki level you genius?
Does Luffy's armament levels jump between Gears ?
Ridiculous.

They shook the island and seas for 3 days straight... To à point queen didn't wanna stay there, ROGER and WB didn't shake that sialnd for days, they had breaks in-between and nobody feared the island would be destroyed during the battle.

Roger and Primebeard with a single clash blasted away all clouds, what is splitting for them when they can blast them away completely?
They created a literal Shockwave encompassing the island and surrounding seas. They even had to look out for their crews.

Bm and Kaidou couldn't even destroy a single building. Queen is a confirmed pussy, he is scared of the scabbards. Jack or King didn't give a shit about the Yonkou fight.

You wanna be a troll but you can't even troll properly.
Nobody in their right minds thinks BM and kaido would be haki masters.

WB can't do what BM and kaido do unless he uses Gura or CoA.

Unfortunately I'm not as good of a troll as you, but you're straight up delusional.
WB already done something without the Gura that Meme or Kaidou can't, lmao, are u trying noodle?

Reminder Young Oden matched Primebeard (no Hardening) thay Oden wasn't even enraged as when he clashed Kaido yet Wheitbeard couldn't overpower him
While Young Kaido matches Prime enraged Oden.

Roger and WB needs CoA to look beastly, while Kaido and BM do not.

Either You WB with CoA is equal to Base current Kaido or Young Kaido is equal to base Primebeard/Roger with COA.

Oden was scared shitless when he saw his captain go serious, the very same Oden that was about to two shot Kaidou and gave him PTSD for the next 20 years.

 

[Ravagerblade]

well i dont think you make a good assessment of yourself
I dont see anyone vouching for you either
safe to say
its all in your head

I think it's because you have a differing opinions than I do. I don't see how I'm so subjective in comparison to someone like Shitshio and Benn.

 

[Seraphoenix]

wym
hades aint a troll pick

He is just as biased as the rest of us

he wasnt holding back
infact he apologized for blasting his haki like that sera

Shanks: Pardon.
I had to use a bit of intimidation... this being an enemy ship and all.
It wasn't full power

 

[Midnight Delight]

indirect Brook hype
Brook is Veteran Level now

 

[MarineHQ]

His haki is described as amazing by Jozu who was well aware of WB's haki.

At this stage we can't say it's confirmed if none of them have had extended fights.

We can, going by feats and there's currently nothing indicating that Shanks's is equal or superior whereas Primebeard and Roger have superior feats.

How shouldn't i give the benefit of the doubt to Primebeard when everything points to his superiority?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I think it's because you have a differing opinions than I do. I don't see how I'm so subjective in comparison to someone like Shitshio and Benn.

I have different opinions
from hades, comrade
and bogard
specifically on admirals who I am biased towards. I just dont think you are objective. you know shishio is extreme, lot of folks in the middle.

 

[kom5]

Seeing the spoilers again made me realize though the last panel was amazing I dont see anything to hype the yonko commanders there all like Jozu expect Marco and Kata all are trash all that hype was for nothing

I feel like 1 Admirals can solo the whole crew

 

[Ravagerblade]

I have different opinions
from hades, comrade
and bogard
specifically on admirals who I am biased towards. I just dont think you are objective. you know shishio is extreme, lot of folks in the middle.

Well at any rate, I base my opinions on what I've seen from the manga and apply it to what I know.

 

[Awaken Fruit]

Better an ally than a crewmate.

Exactly

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No, Oda already has mentioned this in an SBS that he will remember his crewmates names fully if they join. Stop using headcanon and fan made rules to determine whether or not someone can or can't join. She has already explicitly said she wants to join.

No she won’t