Spoiler One Piece Chapter 986 Spoilers Discussion

Katakuri Strongest FM


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He was also useless in little garden and when SHP tried to escape from enies lobby after Luffy defeated lucci, but you know what happen next:sanmoji:
well that is true but at the same time those little garden was understandable he was lost and he actually contributed to the situation keep in mind sanji didnt there was any immediate threat at the time but he knows hes dealing with a yonko but hes drooling over hoes come on man enies lobby yea he deserved what he from khalifa he fucked up in that arc too
 
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Complete different lvl, both we have equal battle with Oden vs Kaido, both seems almost equal, Kaido fear Oden and make a long ass plan to beat him. Overall a battle of two solid top tiers back then.

Right under you see the Gods of one piece, the strongest characters overall, just their insane haki clash shock Oden and let him fear, Oden was complete portrayal as someone who is league under these two monsters and as @comrade said in the past neither Whitebeard or Roger use their strongest ability here, Whitebeard didn´t even use his Gura power, just his insane CoA already do that epic clash.

Kaido vs Oden= Fight of Kings
Roger vs Whitebeard= Fight of Gods
:finally::finally:

No wonder why Sengoku, Big mom and co still fear Whitebeard until his death, portrayalwise Whitebeard and Roger are the nonplusultra of the verse. I hope the Yonkous can show soon enough good feats too.
Where did BM fear WB? Stop making up stuff.
Oden shocked at Haki =/= Yonko shocked at Haki clash or inferior to Roger and WB.

Kaido feared Oden teaming up with Hyo and rest, the battle will be harder since his crew was weak with 1000 men only.
Wano army had 5000+ men.

Both Kaido and Oden planned stuff, oden got outsmarted
Oden planned to kill drunk sleeping Kaido... But Kaido had a spy so he outsmarted him
Kaido planned to reduce Wano force and he succeeded by making oden dance for 5 years.

Oda wanted to portray Prime Oden and Young Kaido on similar level from their equal clash at the castle to their combat plans and both having AP to fatally Wound or KO each other.

The problem is that Oden used CoA and named attack, Kaido never did. Which still makes Oden kinda weak to be matched or lose to Kaido like that. Oda should have had Kaido use hybrid or named attacks at least.
Also Kaido used one arm to KO oden...it's like Kaido needed more force to KO Luffy than Oden when we know Oden has better dura and endurance
 
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@playa4321 ome armed Shanks without DF keeps up with the other Yonko. Just having powerful Haki.

Base Whitebeard and Roger seem to have greater Haki than Shanks and that's dismissing the Gura fruit and Roger's equal power we have yet to witness (probably CoC which we will see through Luffy).

It's questionable whether Kaido can beat base Primebeard

:finally:
Yeah Shanks keeping up with Base Sick WB whose Physical stats is below Kaido and BM
Shanks only keeps up to base Rocks

You haven't even seen Kaido use hybrid or hardening... Yet younger base Kaido matched stronger Oden and can KO him easily
Something Primebeard or sickbeard can't without Haki/df.

Dragon Kaido has more AP than Roger named attack... Dragon Kaido nameless blast left Oden on floor barely standing
Roger named attack with COA didn't even weaken Oden
 
Where was it confirmed???:kaidowhat: Are you making up fanfics again like Shishio?
- It was confirmed when Primebeard sensed Oden before he attacked, when he sensed the people of Wano. Meanwhile Big mom was dependent on Katakuri's CoO and Kaidou couldn't sense how the scabbards were incoming.
- Blackbeard has not a single Haki feat period.


When it comes to CoA it's not even a debate. We have seen Big mom and Kaidou clash and we have seen Primebeard/Roger clash. There is no room left for discussion.
 
You haven't even seen Kaido use hybrid or hardening... Yet younger base Kaido matched stronger Oden and can KO him easily
Something Primebeard or sickbeard can't without Haki/df.
Whitebeard clashed with Oden's hardened swords without even using Haki on his Bisento.
Dragon Kaido nameless blast left Oden on floor barely standing
Actually he stood up immediately, called Kaido and then cut a cross into his chest.
Roger named attack with COA didn't even weaken Oden
Roger was happy to meet Oden. Why would he seriously hurt him? Plus Oden was on guard charging towards Roger and Roger hit Oden's stomach with blunt force. Do you think Oden would stand up if Primebeard hit Oden's back of the head with his Bisento? He, would have split Oden's skull. Unless you think Oden's head is durable enough to withstand that. Oden was killed by a headshot from some average pistol. Primebeard with his monstrous strength and Supreme grade blade would had crushed Oden's skull.
 
- It was confirmed when Primebeard sensed Oden before he attacked, when he sensed the people of Wano. Meanwhile Big mom was dependent on Katakuri's CoO and Kaidou couldn't sense how the scabbards were incoming.
- Blackbeard has not a single Haki feat period.


When it comes to CoA it's not even a debate. We have seen Big mom and Kaidou clash and we have seen Primebeard/Roger clash. There is no room left for discussion.
Do you know what the word 'confirmed' means? You can say he has better feats than BM and Kaido? but confirmed? Also is Shanks not a Yonko anymore?
 
comrade , hades and bogard are the most objective debaters in the forum
no agendas with those lot.
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Do you know what the word 'confirmed' means? You can say he has better feats than BM and Kaido? but confirmed? Also is Shanks not a Yonko anymore?
shanks hasnt shown better haki than big mom
big mom coc changed the weather
 
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Base Primebeard's CoO and CoA are confirmed above that of any current emperor.[/B]

Full Power Big mom and Kaidou had a full on clash and their weapons didn't even create a small force field, let alone something on the level of WB/Roger.

Base Primebeard ~ Yonkou
Gura Primebeard > Yonkou
When you smoke weed

Kaido didn't use hybrid, BM didn't have her homies and wasn't at full power
Both never used hardening CoA as Roger and wb

They shook the island and seas for 3 days straight... To à point queen didn't wanna stay there, ROGER and WB didn't shake that sialnd for days, they had breaks in-between and nobody feared the island would be destroyed during the battle.

You wanna be a troll but you can't even troll properly.
Nobody in their right minds thinks BM and kaido would be haki masters.

WB can't do what BM and kaido do unless he uses Gura or CoA.

Reminder Young Oden matched Primebeard (no Hardening) thay Oden wasn't even enraged as when he clashed Kaido yet Wheitbeard couldn't overpower him
While Young Kaido matches Prime enraged Oden.

Roger and WB needs CoA to look beastly, while Kaido and BM do not.

Either You WB with CoA is equal to Base current Kaido or Young Kaido is equal to base Primebeard/Roger with COA.
 
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