Character Discussion Why do you think ZBoys are in such denial about Green Bull having a black blade?

For me GB having a BB means he would be FA material easily. Jinbe said this was the strongest Marine, so nothing surprising.

BB + Logia (at that point mostly for "support") means that to me, there is not much to think about. If he has one, probably Zoro will have to fight him before the end too.
So how would you rank the Admirals based on their abilities?
DF:
Kizaru/Akainu >= Aokiji/GB > Fujitora

Haki:
GB > Fujitora >= Kizaru/Akainu/Aokiji

Fighting style/swordsmanship:
GB >= Fujitora > Kizaru >= Akainu/Aokiji
 
Making a BB is PART of becoming WSS (or so everyone assumes) but it's not the main condition.
As the title suggests, one has to be the STRONGEST in order to be the WSS.
Sure, but forging black blade has zero value if someone like Greenbull did it as a side job.

For me GB having a BB means he would be FA material easily. Jinbe said this was the strongest Marine, so nothing surprising.

BB + Logia (at that point mostly for "support") means that to me, there is not much to think about. If he has one, probably Zoro will have to fight him before the end too.
You think swordsmanship is Greenbull's main and forest logia is his side business, and that he is comparable to Akainu?
At least this viewpoint has some sense then, most dudes pushing it here wants black blade to be the side job.

I personally disagree because I view Greenbull as one of the weaker top tiers, until proven otherwise at least. I can't imagine a high top tier get treated the way Shanks treated him.
 
Sure, but forging black blade has zero value if someone like Greenbull did it as a side job.



You think swordsmanship is Greenbull's main and forest logia is his side business, and that he is comparable to Akainu?
At least this viewpoint has some sense then, most dudes pushing it here wants black blade to be the side job.

I personally disagree because I view Greenbull as one of the weaker top tiers, until proven otherwise at least. I can't imagine a high top tier get treated the way Shanks treated him.
Why do you keep claiming side job? Maybe swordsmanship is Ryos main power
 
Sure, but forging black blade has zero value if someone like Greenbull did it as a side job.
Whitebeard became WSM as a side job while just wanting to protect his family
Goofy became a yonko a a side job while not caring to be one
Sanji became the strongest Vinsmoke as a side job while not caring just wanting to be a chef

It's time to come and face reality that it's not Greenbull's fault that Pinzoro is only good at 1 thing.
GB just wanted a black colored blade to go with his black pants so he made it black.
 
:kayneshrug:Whether has black blade or not
GB is put below Yonko, which puts other Admirals below Yonko once again

So him having black balde, proves once again why WSS Mihawk is seen weaker than Buggy (who's now Yonko)
 
:kayneshrug:Whether has black blade or not
GB is put below Yonko, which puts other Admirals below Yonko once again

So him having black balde, proves once again why WSS Mihawk is seen weaker than Buggy (who's now Yonko)
The only thing that puts GB below Yonkou Is headcanon, so once again, after Akainu and Kizaru, It would be disproven one time more.

Third huge confirmation in a row :kayneshrug:

Once again, fruitless Aramaki managed what full Power Oden never could:



well he got negged by Shanks so he is at best >=YC1 level...
Sure, in the same way Luffy gor negged by Kizaru when he head a heart Attack feeling him lol.
 
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
It's hard for me to imagine Greenbull forging a black blade, because he does not seem like a purist at all.

But one thing is for certain, Greenbull having a black blade alone tells me Oda thinks higher of him than Oden. Oden was as pure a swordsman as they come, Oda already gave Fujitora the only Saijo from Oden's birthplace, when he couldn't do so for Oden. I repeat he gave Fuji the highest class of sword from Oden's birthplace, when Fuji also has a god tier devil fruit, while Oden is dfless.

So at the very least we can probably safely call Greenbull > Oden.
 
So how would you rank the Admirals based on their abilities?
DF:
Kizaru/Akainu >= Aokiji/GB > Fujitora

Haki:
GB > Fujitora >= Kizaru/Akainu/Aokiji

Fighting style/swordsmanship:
GB >= Fujitora > Kizaru >= Akainu/Aokiji
Difficult, but

DF:
Akainu=Kizaru=Aokiji > Fuji > Ryo

The fruit could have potential, but I don't think Oda will delived

Haki:
GB (CoA specialist) = Fuji (CoO Specialist) = Akainu >= Aokiji > Kizaru

Fighting style:

GB >> Aokiji = Fuji > Akainu=Kizaru as of now.
 
Still coping about Twerkbull having a Black Blade? Lmao.

Y'all really think that Oda would give a retard such as Green Bull the rarest thing in the verse without anyone commenting inverse about that "black blade"? Like come on
 
Still coping about Twerkbull having a Black Blade? Lmao.

Y'all really think that Oda would give a retard such as Green Bull the rarest thing in the verse without anyone commenting inverse about that "black blade"? Like come on
Coping lol?
You literally just have to use your eyes.

Wanna bet if It Will be black in the official coloring too after It was such in the manga twice and in VCs?
 

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呪のろいの王
QUOTE="Dragon777, post: 5786833, member: 21520"]Sure, in the same way Luffy gor negged by Kizaru when he head a heart Attack feeling him lol.[/QUOTE]
dont even understand your post, realistically Greenbull got treated worse than Kidd - the guy got reverted back to base with haki that wasn't even touching him and then screamed in agony, prayed to the gods and was sweating buckets:

 

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he only thing that puts GB below Yonkou Is headcanon, so once again, after Akainu and Kizaru, It would be disproven one time more.

Third huge confirmation in a row :kayneshrug:

Once again, fruitless Aramaki managed what full Power Oden never could:

& what actually puts greenbull on same level as a yonko cause we saw he clearly said he was scared of kaido and then ran from another Yonko:

guy literally would've never stepped foot into wano if kaido was around.

kizaru got put down in one shot and then got flattened to a pancake was out of the fight where Saturn had to rely on help from not just one but all 5 Gorosei, cause one Admiral wasn't enough for merely one newly appointed Yonko with a time limit. & Akainu nearly lost to deadbeard with a sliver of haki. Aokiji admitted to needing help to take down old man garp. Admirals are not Yonko Level

still unconfirmed on his blade, if its a blackblade it doesnt mean hes forged it he hasnt even shown one sword feat or any swordsmanship tp begin with...

& enma - nobody even knows the parameters to how to forge an actual black blade outside of mihawk and ryuma.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
& what actually puts greenbull on same level as a yonko cause we saw he clearly said he was scared of kaido and then ran from another Yonko:
I don't think you understood that statement at all. Greenbull was willing to face an army that took down Kaidou, Big Mom, and the beast pirates. So it obviously can't mean what you are saying it means.

Unless you think Kaidou > Kaidou + Big Mom + Beast Pirates?

Make it make sense.
 
I don't think you understood that statement at all. Greenbull was willing to face an army that took down Kaidou, Big Mom, and the beast pirates. So it obviously can't mean what you are saying it means.

Unless you think Kaidou > Kaidou + Big Mom + Beast Pirates?

Make it make sense.
He was going to face an army that took down that bunch while still exhausted from that feat

Shanks made that pretty clear

And the SHs/Kidd Pirates/Heart Pirates still had all their bandages on them. GB knew what he was doing
 
& what actually puts greenbull on same level as a yonko cause we saw he clearly said he was scared of kaido and then ran from another Yonko:
Ryo was literally going against the ones who took down Kaido and BM, so.
He wouldn't have come if It was Kaido since, as we know, he can't and hadn't any reason to.

kizaru got put down in one shot and then got flattened to a pancake was out of the fight where Saturn had to rely on help from not just one but all 5 Gorosei, cause one Admiral wasn't enough for merely one newly appointed Yonko with a time limit. & Akainu nearly lost to deadbeard with a sliver of haki. Aokiji admitted to needing help to take down old man garp. Admirals are not Yonko Level
Kizaru had to literally save a Yonkou he didn't even want to fight seriously and Aokiji was shown having prime Garp level of strenght and, as BB said, captured Garp, and all without even really using the fruit.

still unconfirmed on his blade, if its a blackblade it doesnt mean hes forged it he hasnt even shown one sword feat or any swordsmanship tp begin with...

& enma - nobody even knows the parameters to how to forge an actual black blade outside of mihawk and ryuma.
If Oda gave one to Ryokugyu, especially at the end of Wano, Is not for that to be somewhat useless and without reason.

He could have obviously not. He did becuase he wanted and because It meant somenthing.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
He was going to face an army that took down that bunch while still exhausted from that feat

Shanks made that pretty clear

And the SHs/Kidd Pirates/Heart Pirates still had all their bandages on them
Doesn't matter, he was all alone taking on a massive alliance with a week's rest. To make matters worse he was announcing his arrival to them by walking through the front door unleashing his powers so everyone could sense him.

Exhausted with 1 week break of characters worth over 2 Yonkou and 1 Yonkou crew is still something that scales above Kaidou by himself.

There's no twisting this. You need better reading comprehension if you think he was talking about being scared of Kaidou, when he's willing to take on folks who beat Kaidou and Big Mom and beast pirates.

He was very clearly talking about stability. If Kaidou was ruling Greenbull would not be in Wano, just as Shanks wasn't, just as prime WB wasn't. Same applies to any Yonkou territory including WCI. Taking down Kaidou naturally leaves a vacuum to be filled.

If you want to take his statement purely for powerscaling purposes then Kizaru could give a rat's ass about stopping both Kaidou and Big Mom. Funny I never hear that being brought up to show Kizaru's superiority over both Kaidou and Big Mom combined.
 
This guy is actually pretty cool and known to battle with lots of oppenents just by himself, he is master strategist of combat one against many. Don't sleep on Greenbull he might give you guys a surprise.
 
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