Character Discussion Why do you think ZBoys are in such denial about Green Bull having a black blade?

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
kaido literally shit on a much stronger force who was actually fresh and healthy, good try though.
Kaidou shit on an Awakened AdCoC Luffy + KOH Zoro + Awakened Law + Awakened Kidd + Yamato + IJ Sanji by himself? Give me some of what you are on.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
@ZenZu this is what kaido did to everyone, he even killed the main character and strongest on the opposing side:



now what matchup looks tougher?

Kaido vs Scabbards


or Greenbull bs Half of the Scabbards who were injured:
Kaidou shit on an Awakened AdCoC Luffy + KOH Zoro + Awakened Law + Awakened Kidd + Yamato + IJ Sanji by himself? Give me some of what you are on.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Kaidou shit on an Awakened AdCoC Luffy + KOH Zoro + Awakened Law + Awakened Kidd + Yamato + IJ Sanji by himself? Give me some of what you are on.
he shit on all 9 scabbards solo, then the sulong mink army to protect jack then he took out luffy 3 seperate times solo. one in which killed him and another instance nearly killed him but plot had heart pirates save him....
 
Associating forging a black blade with it meaning your stronger than those without one or have better haki than them never made sense. And the more time that passes the less sense it makes
Shanks and more so Roger existing alone counter that “logic

More than it being related to power level or haki I still believe like zoan awakenings that forging a black blade is tied to death
Crazy and out my ass but what if black blades are forged through a sacrifice. Like something crazy like killing a loved one or suicide. It being similar to zoan awakenings requiring death but still unique


We know Aramaki’s tattoo hints at suicide and death of a loved one. So maybe the sword originally belonged to a girl he really loved whether familial or romantic. Her death being what made the blade black with Aramaki deciding to hold it as a part of her. He can probably use it too but only when pushed to

Mihawk back in his youth definitely went through some big loss with it being tied to the betrayal he felt. Maybe after that lost he learned how black blades are permanently made and decided to try and achieve it. If he wasn’t strong enough he’d just kill himself but if he was he’d be able to overcome death and become one with yoru. If he didn’t try to kill himself what if the person that betrayed him used his own sword and literally stabbed him in the back leaving him to die. With the same effect either way. That maybe explaining his double ringed eyes because he and yoru are 1



There are a lot of ties between death and swords. Plus again the zoan comparison

This could also imply kuina is secretly alive sabo style since wado isn’t black. Which I wouldn’t mind tbh with her coming back as a man would be interesting imo


Ryuma potentially killing himself to make shusui black
It’d be mad funny if shusui did the same with zoro but he just didn’t realize because the blade is already black. Like if the scar on his eye is him deadass accidentally stabbing himself in the face lol. Him dying but surviving and growing stronger in the process. The blade wanting to be a part of zoro like it was ryuma. So it’d be like even tho he gave the sword up to wano it’s still with him in a way
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Doesn't matter, he was all alone taking on a massive alliance with a week's rest. To make matters worse he was announcing his arrival to them by walking through the front door unleashing his powers so everyone could sense him.

Exhausted with 1 week break of characters worth over 2 Yonkou and 1 Yonkou crew is still something that scales above Kaidou by himself.

There's no twisting this. You need better reading comprehension if you think he was talking about being scared of Kaidou, when he's willing to take on folks who beat Kaidou and Big Mom and beast pirates.

He was very clearly talking about stability. If Kaidou was ruling Greenbull would not be in Wano, just as Shanks wasn't, just as prime WB wasn't. Same applies to any Yonkou territory including WCI. Taking down Kaidou naturally leaves a vacuum to be filled.

If you want to take his statement purely for powerscaling purposes then Kizaru could give a rat's ass about stopping both Kaidou and Big Mom. Funny I never hear that being brought up to show Kizaru's superiority over both Kaidou and Big Mom combined.
:milaugh:Greenbull own words debunks your copium

He himself knows he can't beat nor ever challenge Kaido
This is the same guy that fought kaido best men and called them weak

He knew the alliance was weakened and also he wasn't planning on fighting all of then
That's why he kept asking Retaimers to tell him where Luffy was .
He just went there to get Luffy even if he ignores the others.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
:milaugh:Greenbull own words debunks your copium

He himself knows he can't beat nor ever challenge Kaido
This is the same guy that fought kaido best men and called them weak

He knew the alliance was weakened and also he wasn't planning on fighting all of then
That's why he kept asking Retaimers to tell him where Luffy was .
He just went there to get Luffy even if he ignores the others.
Kizaru > Kaidou + Big Mom combined?
 
yawn, he was afraid of kaido evidently proven.

he went to the outskirts and picked off kaidos commanders who were still heavily damaged and recovering just minding their business.

this is the lot you say who defeated kaido and bm who greenbull fought:


plus base yamato and momo
GB didn't even beat 7 weakened retainers , he onku beat the two weakest member here.
Dukes weren't also in sulong form

Yamato wasn't allowed to fight him

GB feat is overrated
GB and Kizaru were given half the feats of Kaido : kizaru got matched by G4 (no adhaki) and GB gets to fight 7 weakened Retainers, only beats 2
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Oda knows GB and Kizaru can never handle what Kaido can
Also Kuzan needs help to beat Old Garp (weaker than adhaki G4)

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Base Kaido did better against 9 all out retainers than GB did against injured 7 retainers
Kaido did better than kizaru could ever do against serious g4 (with adhaki). In fact, base Kaidp did better against pre adcoc boundman than Kizaru did against snakeman (no adhaki)
 
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