Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 957: Ultimate

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That is why he is Luffy. All he has done is exaclry
He hates them, from when he was young. He is the only pirate other than Xebec to have struck one.
Ye but Xebec's goal was to become King of the world and taking down the CD is the way to do it
Luffy just wants to be free......

(and who doesn't hate CDs)
 
Ye but Xebec's goal was to become King of the world and taking down the CD is the way to do it
Luffy just wants to be free......

(and who doesn't hate CDs)
Xebec D Rocks has the power to attract allies like Luffy. Roger wants to be free like Luffy.

This is why I said both Rogers will and Xebec D Rocks will are both inhabiting Luffy.

Roger did not want to fight all the Yonko like Luffy. This is Xebec D Rocks side of Luffy. Roger also did not attract allies easily.
 
Good point. Do you remember what luffy said to Shanks? He will get a stronger crew than Shanks :cheers:.
What does that mean? well if the marine is talking in such high regard about Shanks crew, what about Luffy crew?
If people didn't had biasness with characters this panel right here would have been enough to show who would have the best crew in OP. Ofcrs Quality >Quantity. Look at Rodger, BB, RHPs, SHs all have quality.

Oda also highlighted the same when Shanks walked into MF war with handful of em n challenged everyone. And BB backed out, even tho he was so determined n Mad in new power to destroy MF.
 
Xebec D Rocks has the power to attract allies like Luffy. Roger wants to be free like Luffy.

This is why I said both Rogers will and Xebec D Rocks will are both inhabiting Luffy.

Roger did not want to fight all the Yonko like Luffy. This is Xebec D Rocks side of Luffy. Roger also did not attract allies easily.
I doubt Rocks had power to gain allies like Luffy , he simply was like BB or Shiki, they worked together for a common goal bt the pirates didn't see eye to eye and had animosity btwn em.

Shiki also could ally the various Pirate crews behind him with showing dreams of destroying WG or Marines. BB also acheived this is unusual way by inviting pirates to join his crew by telling his Master plan of rising to Power and then freeing Impel down Prisoners. Similarly Xebec pinpointed out thr strong one when they arrived at Beehive and told em his master plan or big dream of defeating WG/Marines. It was also a. Formidable quality of leadership bt very different from Luffy.

While In Rodger case, I am pretty sure people followed him of their own free will like they do with Luffy and admired Rodger.
 
Interesting to me Shanks' crewmates were singled out in his introduction, compared to the other Yonkou. For years people have been saying Beckman is a special case even among the yonkou commanders, that gains some merit now. This guy must be an absolute beast.
Well I guess Kizaru gave more respect to him than he did to Marco. Im actually more interested in Beckman. More than Shanks lmao.
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The best thing about this chapter is that it confirmed this guy to be strong



Lucky Roo > Katakuri. Man will beat his ass and then eat all of his donuts. :gokulaugh:
Periodt
 
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mariens are going to wano, if that cliffhanger counts for something. that will allow warlords to escape. they could send 2-3 admrials there.

And curious to see this science group of vegapunk. maybe it's vegapunk's version of the vinsmokes suepr sentai.:finally::steef:
 
mariens are going to wano, if that cliffhanger counts for something. that will allow warlords to escape. they could send 2-3 admrials there.

And curious to see this science group of vegapunk. maybe it's vegapunk's version of the vinsmokes suepr sentai.:finally::steef:
They literally stated in this chapter that they dont have the resources to go to Wano because they're already busy
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Okay. Again, Awesome chapter. We need more Marines focused chapter. Sadly, no Ryokugyu. The guy was mentioned about 200 chapters ago and yet we haven't seen the guy.

Garp was a beast and still is one. No doubt about it. He is the last beacon of his era.

Sengoku knows more than he is letting on. He may have some ideas about Lady Toki. These old dudes are really something.

Shichibukai abolition seems to have disturbed Akainu. That position seems odd for him. He never liked them in the first place.
 
Nope
Yassop is hyped yet his rival is Vista
We know Vista is below katakuri Marco
It means roo is above rest of YC3s
Yassop above YC2s
Benn above YC1s
Who said Yasopp was YC2? He's YC, but we dont actually know what YC he is
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Okay. Again, Awesome chapter. We need more Marines focused chapter. Sadly, no Ryokugyu. The guy was mentioned about 200 chapters ago and yet we haven't seen the guy.
Praying we see him in 958. Sick of waiting now.
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Shichibukai abolition seems to have disturbed Akainu. That position seems odd for him. He never liked them in the first place.
He's an obstinate pragmatist. It makes perfect sense.
 
They literally stated in this chapter that they dont have the resources to go to Wano because they're already busy
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Akainu stated it, I feel like sengoku’s going to talk him out of it.

we know that SWORD has some sort of a wano plan, I’d be surprised if it didn’t go into action, especially now that we know garp helped Roger take down Rocks(hence Coby could help Luffy take down the rocks pirate remnants)
 
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They literally stated in this chapter that they dont have the resources to go to Wano because they're already busy
:lusalty:

because they are after warlords. but kaidou and bm alliance made the strongest crew so they are priority. they will leave it to vegapunk's weapon to capture warlords. sengoku is trying to change akainu's mind. that is what the final of this chapter is all about.
 
You're aware that the Marines are currently engaged with an unknown incident revolving alabasta that needs them to use all resources they have ?
On top of that they're hunting down the Shichibukai, AND are supposed to take on two yonkou?

Just try to read the chapter properly before you sprout nonsense
They also have the role as the gate to Mariejois ( where Celestial Dragons reside )

So not everyone can leave Marines' bases , there must be strong force left to guard Mariejois

For Marine HQ , i'd say minimum a force equivalent to 1 Emperor crew should be left there
 
Akainu stated it, I feel like sengoku’s going to talk him out of it.

we know that SWORD has some sort of a wano plan, I’d be surprised if it didn’t go into action, especially now that we know garp helped Roger take down Rocks(hence Coby could help Luffy take down the rocks pirate remnants)
feel like and know are totally different. For now, we know that they wont unless something changes.
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because they are after warlords. but kaidou and bm alliance made the strongest crew so they are priority. they will leave it to vegapunk's weapon to capture warlords. sengoku is trying to change akainu's mind. that is what the final of this chapter is all about.
IT. WAS. FUCKING. STATED. BY. AKAINU. THAT. THEY. WILL. NOT. INTERFERE. WITH. WANO.

They MIGHT. But that would be deemed a plot twist, because currently, they wont.
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They also have the role as the gate to Mariejois ( where Celestial Dragons reside )

So not everyone can leave Marines' bases , there must be strong force left to guard Mariejois

For Marine HQ , i'd say minimum a force equivalent to 1 Emperor crew should be left there
Dont forget the hundreds of countries where they have a protective onus upon their forces too.
 
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Yup, but i'd say it only singled out the current yonko. Whitebeard's crew is implied to be just as beastly if not even greater, likely due to the fact that he could have been pirate king whenever he wanted, considering Yasopp who is mentioned as his top3 executive seem to have a beef with Vista. Oden who could injure Kaido was a commander of the Whitebeard pirates, but Marco was the right hand man. Jozu is inbetween. Ace was the future pirate king. As i always used to say, these 2 pirate crews are exceptions among the yonko crew, for Shanks' due to balance and for Whitebeard due to being a step higher than the other yonkos
Stop lol
Oden was commander long long ago ! Marco was teen or early 20 when Oden left WB!

Stop trying to boost WB pirates
They seriously only singled out shanks commanders coz they are the strongest top 3.

This man is trying to make WB pirate glorious when only shanks top 3 is hyped
Dont use Oden because Oden >benn any YC1 back then.

"WB commanders are strongest " is dead
Same as "SC are strongest" is dead

Oden :
20 years ago : fought kaido
24-25 years ago : was with Roger since his last voyage was after edd war and roger became pk year later
28 years ago : Momo is born , since he was 8 when kaido invaded wano.
We know Oden was in wano after he left wano and Roger came there to take him.
So Between 30-25 years : He was with WB

Kaido 20 years ago wasnt strong as now too
...let's say he is 35 and Oden is maybe 30 when they fought.

Marco is 45 now,
so he cant be stronger than Oden back then! Or else you wanna say Young Marco ~ Kaido lol
when he is what? 18? Rookie commander...
30-25 years ago Marco possibly cant even be as strong as YC4! While Oden strength and hype is of someone who is YC1.

Or do you believe Marco was YC1 level back then? Which is impossible since even Kaido wasnt YC1 level when he was rookie... he became Top tier 20 years ago only I bet.
So from Rox disbanded till wano, it took him 18 years to rise in power.

Look at the timeline and question yourself
If you saying current Marco Kata Benn > Oden
Yup slight possibility
But Young Marco kata benn >Oden no chance

That will mean Marco should be mid or high top tier now
We know he isnt even low top tier since he was crushed by Teach... a Yonko wont crush badly a low top tier...

Stoo this Marco>Oden
Look at the timeline
 
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