either way i kind of doubt scum targets Ultra N1 anyway bc if he's poisoned he's just gonna die (so what's the point of wasting an action on someone who will die soon) and they probably would've just hit him with their RB (AM). This logic might also be a good look for Watson bc why would Watson as scum be on Ultra when scum RB was someone else?

Speaking of RBs,

what if on N1:
Luka got RB'd by AM (unconfirmed but AM is RB)
Ratchet got redirected to KWEH and failed to be protected from redirect by Luka cuz Luka got RB'd
Indigo Jailed KWEH and so KWEH's night action failed.
Watson visited Ultra but wasn't seen bc watcher was redirected to KWEH

then this would be the first scenario where no one is lying and the night happens as it did? @Charlie
My issue with that would be "why tf would mafia roleblock dude who claims he can make people immune to redirections instead of going blind, hoping to hit investigator/doctor/vig"
 
ok i did a quick skim of seraph

and yeah that can be a wolf too still imo

like my only reason to town seraph is they look uninformed in the sense that they pushed for Flower and Ratchet and some other conf towns + said multiple times for someone to catch them up
 
My issue with that would be "why tf would mafia roleblock dude who claims he can make people immune to redirections instead of going blind, hoping to hit investigator/doctor/vig"
true but maybe they 100% wanted their redirect to go through. this also works if luka is just lying too. iirc i was going more for possibility than plausibility here. also if uwu is actually mafia and does immediately get someone's role when they fail the yoda test then mafia would exactly the right watcher to redirect. idk just throwing stuff out there
 
true but maybe they 100% wanted their redirect to go through. this also works if luka is just lying too. iirc i was going more for possibility than plausibility here. also if uwu is actually mafia and does immediately get someone's role when they fail the yoda test then mafia would exactly the right watcher to redirect. idk just throwing stuff out there
But they couldn't know Ratchet is watcher and he'll visit Ultra
 
But they couldn't know Ratchet is watcher and he'll visit Ultra
if UwU is mafia and gets their result from yoda'ing faster than claimed, then they would. Plus ppl said healer + watcher on Ultra but even if they didn't know Ultra was gonna get targeted, redirects swap to a diff target anyway. idk this is just speculation
 
@Stargate18 what are some thoughts you have rn
I'm a bit under the weather at the moment, so apologies if I'm still behind, but someone mentioned Michelle's ISO, and I have to agree it's not good. Luka is also generally acting really scummy (pushing you because of a wolfread, for example) - I'm not sure about a link between theirs and Watson's alignments' though - it seems to be them trying some distancing, with them saying they'll self-pres, but while openly TRing Watson - and I could see the logic for doing that if Watson is towny (for towncred when they flip) or scum (distancing to give the survivor more towncred).
 
I'm still not sold he's Indie. An indie/ or a survivor won't benefit from game removing people, but scum team would benefit from removing town/watcher. I'd add such a role in Mafia team as a host.
 
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