Spoiler One Piece Chapter 986 Spoilers Discussion

[djiayebee]

Except...Oden made deal with Orochi, not Kaido, and apparently he knew that Orochi wasn't of any importance.

coz using tricks he was "officially" designated and recongized as the Shogun?

 

[El_Rokushiki]

i find it suspicious how Oda shows us the head of Orochi and "dead Kanjuro" multiple times... as if he wanted to hint something but what could that be hmmm

Oda: Look, look! I killed those two for real, guys. I swear.

 

[trav]

i find it suspicious how Oda shows us the head of Orochi and "dead Kanjuro" multiple times... as if he wanted to hint something but what could that be hmmm

cause Kanjuro can create clones.

"your blades can not harm me!!!! unless I become emotionally distressed, of course!"

sounds familiar?

 

[Jo_Ndule]

I still haven't seen one good possibility on how BM is going to be defeated. BM can't do shit with half her crew "on Elbaf".

Zoro, RS Sanji, Jinbe, Yamato vs. Smoothie, Perospero, Oven, Daifuku is a straight up bloodbath/slaughter.



We have no idea what event Hawkins was talking about. Can't assume it's about Wano. Could be about Raftel/One Piece or Elbaf.

Bro, Hawkins wasn't talking about Raftel, he talked about their survival in Wano.


There's no way they beat Kaido, especially with BM there.

And no, Zoro Sanji Jinbei won't massacre Smoothie peri oven, Jinbei in water didn't even destroy BM fleets or beat Daifuku /Smoothie back in WCI.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I'm letting you guys know right now to prepare yourselves, because if Orochi and Kanjuro are seriously dead, then we can expect that the bad guys won't be the only ones to have named casualties on their side. We can expect a few dead Strawlliance members by the end of Wano.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Even kinemon thought Kanjuro will be stronger?????? So there still that 1%chance Kanjoro faking it and not fodder

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Orochi still play dead, Kaido, Big Mom, and the Calamities still there.
Edit : And now the scabbards is there too.

You don't play dead for 2 chapters where you can even get blasted or burnt dye to the battle.
Orochi is useless, he serves nothing plot wise anymore.
If he could grow his head or revive himself, he should have done it already and escape.

 

[Lunaria]

Even kinemon thought Kanjuro will be stronger?????? So there still that 1%chance Kanjoro faking it and not fodder

That's not what he meant.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Mate, Germa was there at the end fighting BMPs for hours on end. They escorted Sanji out. They took out tens of thousands of BMPs.

And? Did it change the fact that Judge was ko and the other Vinsmoke where down? If the explosion didn't happen, they would be kinda dead. Didn't Big mom knock out three of them easily in mere Seconds? Now think how it look like if Big mom and Kaido+Calamity going on rampange in next chapter...

 

[MD Zolo]

coz using tricks he was "officially" designated and recongized as the Shogun?

Yet!! Oden Apparently knew that Orochi never held any influence to do anything. This is kind of contradictory to the flashback where Oden breaks down after Orochi kills Hyou family goes back on his word, because in the flashback, it seemed that Oden believed Orochi would what he promised, while now it seems that Oden never believed Orochi was anything.

 

[djiayebee]

Oda: Look, look! I killed those two for real, guys. I swear.

lmao yes exactly... all the "am dead no am not" characters like Sabo Pell Pound etc. were never shown after said death, but of course we saw these 2 dead bodies now so that means their death is 200% confirmed!!

You don't play dead for 2 chapters where you can even get blasted or burnt dye to the battle.
Orochi is useless, he serves nothing plot wise anymore.
If he could grow his head or revive himself, he should have done it already and escape.

Orochi being the cowardly pussy he is? nah, he must be confused and thinking what to do now, waiting before acting... look, he just lost his army of 10,000 with a snap of fingers

 

[sanjikun]

And? Did it change the fact that Judge was ko and the other Vinsmoke where down? If the explosion didn't happen, they would be kinda dead. Didn't Big mom knock out three of them easily in mere Seconds? Now think how it look like if Big mom and Kaido+Calamity going on rampange in next chapter...

If you mean they will "wreck" them for 5 seconds, ok. But Scabbards have to see Kaido fall down. They won't be KOed.

I'm letting you guys know right now to prepare yourselves, because if Orochi and Kanjuro are seriously dead, then we can expect that the bad guys won't be the only ones to have named casualties on their side. We can expect a few dead Strawlliance members by the end of Wano.

I think that was to be expected tbh. We already had Pedro die.

Oda doesn't kill people...unless it's a series-defining arc. Then we get Aces and WBs dying. This is the Marineford of the New World.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

If you mean they will "wreck" them for 5 seconds, ok. But Scabbards have to see Kaido fall down. They won't be KOed.

Of course they will be up when Kaido fall that is out of question, but for now they probably get rekt and saved by Luffy,Law,Zoro and Kid in the next chapters.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I'm wondering what the game plan is now that the Alliance has been exposed. They were supposed to wait and kill Kaido when he was drunk, but that's completely out the window. Did they have a contingency plan, or are they pretty much just winging it at this point?

 

[Fuckthis3]

That's not what he meant.

Oh he talking bout the raid or the how easy it was for Kanjuro to be the traitor???

 

[Fallen Prince]

Except...Oden made deal with Orochi, not Kaido, and apparently he knew that Orochi wasn't of any importance.

Yes it was with orochi .

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I'm wondering what the game plan is now that the Alliance has been exposed. They were supposed to wait and kill Kaido when he was drunk, but that's completely out the window. Did they have a contingency plan, or are they pretty much just winging it at this point?

Law's back up plan ? We dunno what he had . He kinda already believed kinemon's plan was farce from very beginning .

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Oh he talking bout the raid or the how easy it was for Kanjuro to be the traitor???

He was saying that mentally it wasn't easy to kill Kanjuro because they had known each other for so long, and considered him a friend at one point.

 

[sanjikun]

Only reason I still have a sliver of doubt about Orochi, is that decapitation is too macabre even for OP... But who knows, maybe new editors told Oda to step up his game.

But at the very least both Kaido and Oniwabatsu think Orochi's dead.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Even kinemon thought Kanjuro will be stronger?????? So there still that 1%chance Kanjoro faking it and not fodder

I think he meant that it shouldn't have been easy to kill someone that they once considered as their friend. I don't think his words were strength related.

 

[sanjikun]

I think he meant that he shouldn't have been easy to kill someone that they once considered as their friend. I don't think his words were strength related.

Yep, this is how I understood it. It was words of consolation. Could be wrong though.