Role Madness Fate/ Mafia V.2 [Night 2]

48hrs day

  • Yay

    Votes: 10 76.9%
  • Nay

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Updated reads with explanations.

PROS/CONS

Flower
Reasons Flower is Town:
  • Her reads so far feel real, and I don't see a reason for her to approach it that way as a wolf.
  • The way she's consistently wanted to read people for herself in the wake of people locking them as town has felt villagery.
  • Has exhibited a comfortable fluidity to reads.
  • Fair amount of mindmelds/some towny micromoments.
  • General mixture of healthy caution and strong reads has in all come across as very natural.
  • Engagement is consistent.
Reasons Flower is Mafia:
  • In more of a background position early on when lots of pushes on villagers were happening.
  • Could be playing a more subtle game, not drawing too much attention.

VERDICT: Some minor concerns, but more reasons to townread than not. Still a strong town lean.

Yoho
Reasons Yoho is Town:
  • Yoho, in general, has not done a lot to direct the flow of the game or to actively pocket people, which to me indicates they are not playing with a wolf-agenda.
Reasons Yoho is Mafia:
  • Has not done much this game, main pushes have been on villagers. Could be playing a lazy mafia game.
  • Wolf range is large enough that realistically they could be fooling me this game.
  • Not a lot of concretely clearing things/can make sense in a few worlds.

VERDICT: Nothing overtly clearing, but still a town lean. Closer to null, could fit in some worlds.

Naomi
Reasons Naomi is Town:
  • Play aligns more closely with town meta upon review.
  • Naomi appears to be one of the hardest pushers currently.
  • Actively engaged in discussions and willing to challenge others.
Reasons Naomi is Mafia:

  • My read on her in the beginning could be correct. In past town games especially lately, I've usually found her earlier than I did this game.
  • Gamestate/my townreads indicate it's likely one where wolves are playing well, and she is one of the most capable people of fooling me.
  • Early game push on me felt performative.

VERDICT: Town lean.

Fujishiro

Reasons Fujishiro is Town:
  • Claimed to be Miller early on.
Reasons Fujishiro is Mafia:
  • Unusual claim.
  • Behavior has been erratic and difficult to read.

VERDICT: I believe that there are less concrete reasons to townread Fuji than I thought. Null for now.

Michelle

Reasons Michelle is Town:
  • Has been fairly reasonable in attention to detail throughout the game in a way that's come across as villagery.
  • Has been quite active and is driving the discussion.
Reasons Michelle is Mafia:
  • TBD.

VERDICT: On the nuller side, though I'd be surprised if the amount of attention to detail in some of their reads came from a wolf. They are unpaired enough with people in my direct POE that I'd lean town.

Saber
Reasons Saber is Town:
  • Made a few posts.
  • Made a read.
Reasons Saber is Mafia:
  • Unusual reads.
  • Seems to be throwing out ideas without a clear, logical progression.
VERDICT: Saber is now a solid scum read for me.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • Has made some contributions to the discussion, although they've been limited.
  • Some jokes land well.
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • Posts are often more focused on humor than on actual game analysis. It feels like a distraction.
  • Could be using humor as a way to deflect or avoid scrutiny. It's an easy way to avoid serious discussion.
  • Seems to be lurking in the background, which is a common wolf strategy. Not taking a strong stance on anything.

VERDICT: Leaning scum. Lack of serious engagement. Humor could be a cover. I'm not seeing much genuine problem-solving.

MUUGEN
Reasons MUUGEN is Town:
  • Has been active and engaged in discussions. They're definitely participating.
Reasons MUUGEN is Mafia:
  • Early push on Saber felt forced and opportunistic, like they were trying to get a quick lynch.
  • Might be using a "bold" playstyle to mask wolf intentions. The aggressiveness feels a bit calculated.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Ratchet
Reasons Ratchet is Town:
  • Engages in debates and challenges others' viewpoints. They're not afraid to speak their mind.
Reasons Ratchet is Mafia:
  • Argumentative style could be a way to create distractions and muddy the waters.
  • Behavior seems somewhat inconsistent.
  • Might be trying to appear townie by being vocal, but actions don't always align with their words. It feels like a performance at times.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Handium
Reasons Handium is Town:
  • Has made some contributions, although limited.
Reasons Handium is Mafia:
  • Relatively quiet and has not been a major driving force as of D1. It's hard to get a read on them.
  • Could be playing a lurking game.

VERDICT: Null for now. Need to see more engagement to form a solid read. They're not giving me much to work with.

Yo Tan Wa
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Town:
  • None that stand out at the moment.
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Mafia:
  • Relatively low activity makes it hard to get a read.
  • Could be any alignment as of now.

VERDICT: Null. Need more data.

Stargate18
Reasons Stargate18 is Town:
  • Has chimed in occasionally, so they're not completely silent.
Reasons Stargate18 is Mafia:
  • Sporadic participation makes it difficult to gauge intentions. They're not consistently engaged.
  • Could be any alignment.

VERDICT: Null. Needs to be more active. I can't form an opinion based on so little information.

tepig19283
Reasons tepig19283 is Town:
  • Some reads seem to be based on careful observation. They're paying attention to details.
  • Has shown some genuine problem-solving. They seem to be thinking things through.
  • Asks questions and seems to be trying to understand the game, which is a good sign.
Reasons tepig19283 is Mafia:
  • Could be a wolf playing a more subtle game, trying to appear townie without being too obvious.

VERDICT: Leaning town. There's a sense of genuine effort there, and I appreciate their attempts to solve. I'll keep watching them, but for now, they seem more likely to be town.

SORT
Flower
Yoho
Naomi
tepig19283
Michelle


Fujishiro
Handium=
Yo Tan Wa
Stargate18


Saber
Mr. Reloaded
MUUGEN
Ratchet
 

Mr. Reloaded

Professional Backstabber
Updated reads with explanations.

PROS/CONS

Flower
Reasons Flower is Town:
  • Her reads so far feel real, and I don't see a reason for her to approach it that way as a wolf.
  • The way she's consistently wanted to read people for herself in the wake of people locking them as town has felt villagery.
  • Has exhibited a comfortable fluidity to reads.
  • Fair amount of mindmelds/some towny micromoments.
  • General mixture of healthy caution and strong reads has in all come across as very natural.
  • Engagement is consistent.
Reasons Flower is Mafia:
  • In more of a background position early on when lots of pushes on villagers were happening.
  • Could be playing a more subtle game, not drawing too much attention.

VERDICT: Some minor concerns, but more reasons to townread than not. Still a strong town lean.

Yoho
Reasons Yoho is Town:
  • Yoho, in general, has not done a lot to direct the flow of the game or to actively pocket people, which to me indicates they are not playing with a wolf-agenda.
Reasons Yoho is Mafia:
  • Has not done much this game, main pushes have been on villagers. Could be playing a lazy mafia game.
  • Wolf range is large enough that realistically they could be fooling me this game.
  • Not a lot of concretely clearing things/can make sense in a few worlds.

VERDICT: Nothing overtly clearing, but still a town lean. Closer to null, could fit in some worlds.

Naomi
Reasons Naomi is Town:
  • Play aligns more closely with town meta upon review.
  • Naomi appears to be one of the hardest pushers currently.
  • Actively engaged in discussions and willing to challenge others.
Reasons Naomi is Mafia:

  • My read on her in the beginning could be correct. In past town games especially lately, I've usually found her earlier than I did this game.
  • Gamestate/my townreads indicate it's likely one where wolves are playing well, and she is one of the most capable people of fooling me.
  • Early game push on me felt performative.

VERDICT: Town lean.

Fujishiro

Reasons Fujishiro is Town:
  • Claimed to be Miller early on.
Reasons Fujishiro is Mafia:
  • Unusual claim.
  • Behavior has been erratic and difficult to read.

VERDICT: I believe that there are less concrete reasons to townread Fuji than I thought. Null for now.

Michelle

Reasons Michelle is Town:
  • Has been fairly reasonable in attention to detail throughout the game in a way that's come across as villagery.
  • Has been quite active and is driving the discussion.
Reasons Michelle is Mafia:
  • TBD.

VERDICT: On the nuller side, though I'd be surprised if the amount of attention to detail in some of their reads came from a wolf. They are unpaired enough with people in my direct POE that I'd lean town.

Saber
Reasons Saber is Town:
  • Made a few posts.
  • Made a read.
Reasons Saber is Mafia:
  • Unusual reads.
  • Seems to be throwing out ideas without a clear, logical progression.
VERDICT: Saber is now a solid scum read for me.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • Has made some contributions to the discussion, although they've been limited.
  • Some jokes land well.
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • Posts are often more focused on humor than on actual game analysis. It feels like a distraction.
  • Could be using humor as a way to deflect or avoid scrutiny. It's an easy way to avoid serious discussion.
  • Seems to be lurking in the background, which is a common wolf strategy. Not taking a strong stance on anything.

VERDICT: Leaning scum. Lack of serious engagement. Humor could be a cover. I'm not seeing much genuine problem-solving.

MUUGEN
Reasons MUUGEN is Town:
  • Has been active and engaged in discussions. They're definitely participating.
Reasons MUUGEN is Mafia:
  • Early push on Saber felt forced and opportunistic, like they were trying to get a quick lynch.
  • Might be using a "bold" playstyle to mask wolf intentions. The aggressiveness feels a bit calculated.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Ratchet
Reasons Ratchet is Town:
  • Engages in debates and challenges others' viewpoints. They're not afraid to speak their mind.
Reasons Ratchet is Mafia:
  • Argumentative style could be a way to create distractions and muddy the waters.
  • Behavior seems somewhat inconsistent.
  • Might be trying to appear townie by being vocal, but actions don't always align with their words. It feels like a performance at times.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Handium
Reasons Handium is Town:
  • Has made some contributions, although limited.
Reasons Handium is Mafia:
  • Relatively quiet and has not been a major driving force as of D1. It's hard to get a read on them.
  • Could be playing a lurking game.

VERDICT: Null for now. Need to see more engagement to form a solid read. They're not giving me much to work with.

Yo Tan Wa
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Town:
  • None that stand out at the moment.
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Mafia:
  • Relatively low activity makes it hard to get a read.
  • Could be any alignment as of now.

VERDICT: Null. Need more data.

Stargate18
Reasons Stargate18 is Town:
  • Has chimed in occasionally, so they're not completely silent.
Reasons Stargate18 is Mafia:
  • Sporadic participation makes it difficult to gauge intentions. They're not consistently engaged.
  • Could be any alignment.

VERDICT: Null. Needs to be more active. I can't form an opinion based on so little information.

tepig19283
Reasons tepig19283 is Town:
  • Some reads seem to be based on careful observation. They're paying attention to details.
  • Has shown some genuine problem-solving. They seem to be thinking things through.
  • Asks questions and seems to be trying to understand the game, which is a good sign.
Reasons tepig19283 is Mafia:
  • Could be a wolf playing a more subtle game, trying to appear townie without being too obvious.

VERDICT: Leaning town. There's a sense of genuine effort there, and I appreciate their attempts to solve. I'll keep watching them, but for now, they seem more likely to be town.

SORT
Flower
Yoho
Naomi
tepig19283
Michelle


Fujishiro
Handium=
Yo Tan Wa
Stargate18


Saber
Mr. Reloaded
MUUGEN
Ratchet
Oh this is town lmao

I think I can finally confidently say that 😂
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Updated reads with explanations.

PROS/CONS

Flower
Reasons Flower is Town:
  • Her reads so far feel real, and I don't see a reason for her to approach it that way as a wolf.
  • The way she's consistently wanted to read people for herself in the wake of people locking them as town has felt villagery.
  • Has exhibited a comfortable fluidity to reads.
  • Fair amount of mindmelds/some towny micromoments.
  • General mixture of healthy caution and strong reads has in all come across as very natural.
  • Engagement is consistent.
Reasons Flower is Mafia:
  • In more of a background position early on when lots of pushes on villagers were happening.
  • Could be playing a more subtle game, not drawing too much attention.

VERDICT: Some minor concerns, but more reasons to townread than not. Still a strong town lean.

Yoho
Reasons Yoho is Town:
  • Yoho, in general, has not done a lot to direct the flow of the game or to actively pocket people, which to me indicates they are not playing with a wolf-agenda.
Reasons Yoho is Mafia:
  • Has not done much this game, main pushes have been on villagers. Could be playing a lazy mafia game.
  • Wolf range is large enough that realistically they could be fooling me this game.
  • Not a lot of concretely clearing things/can make sense in a few worlds.

VERDICT: Nothing overtly clearing, but still a town lean. Closer to null, could fit in some worlds.

Naomi
Reasons Naomi is Town:
  • Play aligns more closely with town meta upon review.
  • Naomi appears to be one of the hardest pushers currently.
  • Actively engaged in discussions and willing to challenge others.
Reasons Naomi is Mafia:

  • My read on her in the beginning could be correct. In past town games especially lately, I've usually found her earlier than I did this game.
  • Gamestate/my townreads indicate it's likely one where wolves are playing well, and she is one of the most capable people of fooling me.
  • Early game push on me felt performative.

VERDICT: Town lean.

Fujishiro

Reasons Fujishiro is Town:
  • Claimed to be Miller early on.
Reasons Fujishiro is Mafia:
  • Unusual claim.
  • Behavior has been erratic and difficult to read.

VERDICT: I believe that there are less concrete reasons to townread Fuji than I thought. Null for now.

Michelle

Reasons Michelle is Town:
  • Has been fairly reasonable in attention to detail throughout the game in a way that's come across as villagery.
  • Has been quite active and is driving the discussion.
Reasons Michelle is Mafia:
  • TBD.

VERDICT: On the nuller side, though I'd be surprised if the amount of attention to detail in some of their reads came from a wolf. They are unpaired enough with people in my direct POE that I'd lean town.

Saber
Reasons Saber is Town:
  • Made a few posts.
  • Made a read.
Reasons Saber is Mafia:
  • Unusual reads.
  • Seems to be throwing out ideas without a clear, logical progression.
VERDICT: Saber is now a solid scum read for me.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • Has made some contributions to the discussion, although they've been limited.
  • Some jokes land well.
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • Posts are often more focused on humor than on actual game analysis. It feels like a distraction.
  • Could be using humor as a way to deflect or avoid scrutiny. It's an easy way to avoid serious discussion.
  • Seems to be lurking in the background, which is a common wolf strategy. Not taking a strong stance on anything.

VERDICT: Leaning scum. Lack of serious engagement. Humor could be a cover. I'm not seeing much genuine problem-solving.

MUUGEN
Reasons MUUGEN is Town:
  • Has been active and engaged in discussions. They're definitely participating.
Reasons MUUGEN is Mafia:
  • Early push on Saber felt forced and opportunistic, like they were trying to get a quick lynch.
  • Might be using a "bold" playstyle to mask wolf intentions. The aggressiveness feels a bit calculated.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Ratchet
Reasons Ratchet is Town:
  • Engages in debates and challenges others' viewpoints. They're not afraid to speak their mind.
Reasons Ratchet is Mafia:
  • Argumentative style could be a way to create distractions and muddy the waters.
  • Behavior seems somewhat inconsistent.
  • Might be trying to appear townie by being vocal, but actions don't always align with their words. It feels like a performance at times.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Handium
Reasons Handium is Town:
  • Has made some contributions, although limited.
Reasons Handium is Mafia:
  • Relatively quiet and has not been a major driving force as of D1. It's hard to get a read on them.
  • Could be playing a lurking game.

VERDICT: Null for now. Need to see more engagement to form a solid read. They're not giving me much to work with.

Yo Tan Wa
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Town:
  • None that stand out at the moment.
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Mafia:
  • Relatively low activity makes it hard to get a read.
  • Could be any alignment as of now.

VERDICT: Null. Need more data.

Stargate18
Reasons Stargate18 is Town:
  • Has chimed in occasionally, so they're not completely silent.
Reasons Stargate18 is Mafia:
  • Sporadic participation makes it difficult to gauge intentions. They're not consistently engaged.
  • Could be any alignment.

VERDICT: Null. Needs to be more active. I can't form an opinion based on so little information.

tepig19283
Reasons tepig19283 is Town:
  • Some reads seem to be based on careful observation. They're paying attention to details.
  • Has shown some genuine problem-solving. They seem to be thinking things through.
  • Asks questions and seems to be trying to understand the game, which is a good sign.
Reasons tepig19283 is Mafia:
  • Could be a wolf playing a more subtle game, trying to appear townie without being too obvious.

VERDICT: Leaning town. There's a sense of genuine effort there, and I appreciate their attempts to solve. I'll keep watching them, but for now, they seem more likely to be town.

SORT
Flower
Yoho
Naomi
tepig19283
Michelle


Fujishiro
Handium=
Yo Tan Wa
Stargate18


Saber
Mr. Reloaded
MUUGEN
Ratchet
What the

Is this written by an AI lol?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
@Alexis2282AE No thoughts, as you were. I love arguing, I don't think I've been inconsistent, and I do think I come across as performative at the best of times. I don't mind the observations is isolation. Actually makes me a bit nervous.... AI really has come a long way. There was an AI bot I came across that basically let you feed your Twitter/X account to it, and it generated an AI version of yourself. Was uncanny...
 
Updated reads with explanations.

PROS/CONS

Flower
Reasons Flower is Town:
  • Her reads so far feel real, and I don't see a reason for her to approach it that way as a wolf.
  • The way she's consistently wanted to read people for herself in the wake of people locking them as town has felt villagery.
  • Has exhibited a comfortable fluidity to reads.
  • Fair amount of mindmelds/some towny micromoments.
  • General mixture of healthy caution and strong reads has in all come across as very natural.
  • Engagement is consistent.
Reasons Flower is Mafia:
  • In more of a background position early on when lots of pushes on villagers were happening.
  • Could be playing a more subtle game, not drawing too much attention.

VERDICT: Some minor concerns, but more reasons to townread than not. Still a strong town lean.

Yoho
Reasons Yoho is Town:
  • Yoho, in general, has not done a lot to direct the flow of the game or to actively pocket people, which to me indicates they are not playing with a wolf-agenda.
Reasons Yoho is Mafia:
  • Has not done much this game, main pushes have been on villagers. Could be playing a lazy mafia game.
  • Wolf range is large enough that realistically they could be fooling me this game.
  • Not a lot of concretely clearing things/can make sense in a few worlds.

VERDICT: Nothing overtly clearing, but still a town lean. Closer to null, could fit in some worlds.

Naomi
Reasons Naomi is Town:
  • Play aligns more closely with town meta upon review.
  • Naomi appears to be one of the hardest pushers currently.
  • Actively engaged in discussions and willing to challenge others.
Reasons Naomi is Mafia:

  • My read on her in the beginning could be correct. In past town games especially lately, I've usually found her earlier than I did this game.
  • Gamestate/my townreads indicate it's likely one where wolves are playing well, and she is one of the most capable people of fooling me.
  • Early game push on me felt performative.

VERDICT: Town lean.

Fujishiro

Reasons Fujishiro is Town:
  • Claimed to be Miller early on.
Reasons Fujishiro is Mafia:
  • Unusual claim.
  • Behavior has been erratic and difficult to read.

VERDICT: I believe that there are less concrete reasons to townread Fuji than I thought. Null for now.

Michelle

Reasons Michelle is Town:
  • Has been fairly reasonable in attention to detail throughout the game in a way that's come across as villagery.
  • Has been quite active and is driving the discussion.
Reasons Michelle is Mafia:
  • TBD.

VERDICT: On the nuller side, though I'd be surprised if the amount of attention to detail in some of their reads came from a wolf. They are unpaired enough with people in my direct POE that I'd lean town.

Saber
Reasons Saber is Town:
  • Made a few posts.
  • Made a read.
Reasons Saber is Mafia:
  • Unusual reads.
  • Seems to be throwing out ideas without a clear, logical progression.
VERDICT: Saber is now a solid scum read for me.

Mr. Reloaded
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Town:
  • Has made some contributions to the discussion, although they've been limited.
  • Some jokes land well.
Reasons Mr. Reloaded is Mafia:
  • Posts are often more focused on humor than on actual game analysis. It feels like a distraction.
  • Could be using humor as a way to deflect or avoid scrutiny. It's an easy way to avoid serious discussion.
  • Seems to be lurking in the background, which is a common wolf strategy. Not taking a strong stance on anything.

VERDICT: Leaning scum. Lack of serious engagement. Humor could be a cover. I'm not seeing much genuine problem-solving.

MUUGEN
Reasons MUUGEN is Town:
  • Has been active and engaged in discussions. They're definitely participating.
Reasons MUUGEN is Mafia:
  • Early push on Saber felt forced and opportunistic, like they were trying to get a quick lynch.
  • Might be using a "bold" playstyle to mask wolf intentions. The aggressiveness feels a bit calculated.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Ratchet
Reasons Ratchet is Town:
  • Engages in debates and challenges others' viewpoints. They're not afraid to speak their mind.
Reasons Ratchet is Mafia:
  • Argumentative style could be a way to create distractions and muddy the waters.
  • Behavior seems somewhat inconsistent.
  • Might be trying to appear townie by being vocal, but actions don't always align with their words. It feels like a performance at times.

VERDICT: Leaning scum.

Handium
Reasons Handium is Town:
  • Has made some contributions, although limited.
Reasons Handium is Mafia:
  • Relatively quiet and has not been a major driving force as of D1. It's hard to get a read on them.
  • Could be playing a lurking game.

VERDICT: Null for now. Need to see more engagement to form a solid read. They're not giving me much to work with.

Yo Tan Wa
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Town:
  • None that stand out at the moment.
Reasons Yo Tan Wa is Mafia:
  • Relatively low activity makes it hard to get a read.
  • Could be any alignment as of now.

VERDICT: Null. Need more data.

Stargate18
Reasons Stargate18 is Town:
  • Has chimed in occasionally, so they're not completely silent.
Reasons Stargate18 is Mafia:
  • Sporadic participation makes it difficult to gauge intentions. They're not consistently engaged.
  • Could be any alignment.

VERDICT: Null. Needs to be more active. I can't form an opinion based on so little information.

tepig19283
Reasons tepig19283 is Town:
  • Some reads seem to be based on careful observation. They're paying attention to details.
  • Has shown some genuine problem-solving. They seem to be thinking things through.
  • Asks questions and seems to be trying to understand the game, which is a good sign.
Reasons tepig19283 is Mafia:
  • Could be a wolf playing a more subtle game, trying to appear townie without being too obvious.

VERDICT: Leaning town. There's a sense of genuine effort there, and I appreciate their attempts to solve. I'll keep watching them, but for now, they seem more likely to be town.

SORT
Flower
Yoho
Naomi
tepig19283
Michelle


Fujishiro
Handium=
Yo Tan Wa
Stargate18


Saber
Mr. Reloaded
MUUGEN
Ratchet
Love this format:sweat:

Not sure why I'm not there though:endthis:
 
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