POWERSCALING - Dragon Ball x One Piece - Planet Buster Edition

[Logiko]

Hi!

During a discussion, @Blax Blah had the idea to use both OP's and DB's powerscaling scales to make comparisons with a basic mathematical approach. I thought it was a fun thing to do so I did my own calculus with the least headcanons possible.

(You can find all the data I used here: https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Power_Levels)

Tell me what you think about it !

OK ! LET'S HAVE FUN:

- If 1 Farmer with Guns = 5 DBPL (Dragon Ball Power Levels)

- If 1 DBGoku (Dragon Ball Starting Goku) = 10 DBPL = 2 Farmers with Gun

- If 1 Fishman = 10 men in One Piece

Then 1 Fishman ~ 10 Farmers with Guns = 5 DBGoku

- If 1 Fishman = 1 OPPL (1 One Piece power level)

Then 1 OPPL = 5 DBGoku = 50 DBPL = 1 Fishman

- If we round the numbers..

- If Arlong => 3 Fishmen

Then Arlong => 3 OPPL = 150 DBPL

- If Bounties = Power Level

- If Arlong's bounty = 20 Millions

- If Luffy's bounty = 30 Millions

Then Arlong =< 66.67% of Luffy's Arlong Park's OPPL

Then AP Luffy = (33.33% of 3) + 3 = 1 + 3 OPPL = 4 OPPL = 200 DBPL

- If Enies Lobby Luffy is worth 300 Millions

Then EL Luffy = 4 OPPL x 10 = 40 OPPL = 2000 DBPL = Vegeta Saga's Piccolo

- If 1 DBZGoku (End of Dragon Ball Z Vegeta Saga normal Goku) => 9000 DBPL

- If 50 DPPL = 1 OPPL

Then DBZGoku => 9000 DBPL = 180 OPPL

- If 1 Douriki = 10 Trained men

- If EL Lucci = 4000 Douriki = EL Luffy

- If EL Luffy = 40 OPPL

Then = 1 OPPL = 100 Douriki = 50 DBPL

Then DBZGoku (Vegeta Saga Normal Goku) = 4.5 x Stronger than EL Luffy (theoretically)

- If Luffy didn't powered up between EL and Sabaody

- If Rayleigh = 100 x Stronger than EL Luffy

Then Rayleigh = 4000 OPPL = 200 000 DBPL = 400 000 Douriki = Frieza's saga Gohan

So.. If we look at some of the informations we have in a rationnal way, Rayleigh is as strong as Gohan in the Frieza Saga.



We know that it takes around 10 000 DBPL to destroy a very small planet and at least 500k to destroy a bit planet.

So you could say that Rayleigh could "theoretically" destroy average planets, but since the One Piece planet is awfully big, he can't destroy it.

BUT

If a Vice Captain's bounty ~ 0.5 x the captain's bounty = 400 000 Douriki

If Roger's bounty = 5.6 Billion

Then Roger = 800 000 Douriki = 8000 OPPL = 400 000 DBPL

Roger would be a little less strong than the first form of Frieza that is around 530 000 DBPL

If we compare Dragon Ball and One Piece with similar tools, Roger could "theoretically" destroy or at least crack the One Piece planet, but I think he would need to give everything into one single attack


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NOW.... IF WE ADJUST THE DATA A LITTLE

- If 1 Farmer with Guns = 1 DBPL (Dragon Ball Power Levels) Instead of 5 DBPL

- If 1 DBGoku (Dragon Ball Starting Goku) = 10 DBPL = 10 Farmers with Gun Instead of 2

- If 1 Fishman = 10 men in One Piece and in Dragon Ball

Then 1 Fishman ~ 10 Farmers with Guns = 1 DBGoku

- If 1 Fishman = 1 OPPL (1 One Piece power level)

Then 1 OPPL = 1 DBGoku = 10 DBPL = 1 Fishman

- If we round the numbers..

- If Arlong => 3 Fishmen

Then Arlong => 3 OPPL = 30 DBPL = 3 DBGoku

- If Bounties = Power Level

- If Arlong's bounty = 20 Millions

- If Luffy's bounty = 30 Millions

Then Arlong =< 66.67% of Luffy's Arlong Park's OPPL

Then AP Luffy = (33.33% of 3) + 3 = 1 + 3 OPPL = 4 OPPL = 40 DBPL

- If Enies Lobby Luffy is worth 300 Millions

Then EL Luffy = 4 OPPL x 10 = 40 OPPL = 400 DBPL = Goku at the beginning of the Raditz Saga

- If 1 DBZGoku (End of Dragon Ball Z Vegeta Saga normal Goku) => 9000 DBPL

- If 10 DPPL = 1 OPPL

Then DBZGoku => 9000 DBPL = 900 OPPL

- If 1 Douriki = 10 Trained men

- If EL Lucci => 4000 Douriki = EL Luffy

- If EL Luffy = 40 OPPL

Then = 1 OPPL = 100 Douriki = 10 DBPL

Then DBZGoku (Vegeta Saga Normal Goku) = 22.5 x Stronger than EL Luffy (theoretically)

- If Luffy didn't powered up between EL and Sabaody

- If Rayleigh = 100 x Stronger than EL Luffy

Then Rayleigh = 4000 OPPL = 40 000 DBPL = 400 000 Douriki ~ Nail in the Ginyu Saga

So.. If we look at some of the informations we have in a rationnal way, Rayleigh is as strong as at least 2 Vegeta in the Vegeta Saga.



We know that it takes around 10 000 DBPL to destroy a very small planet and at least 500k to destroy a bit planet.

So you could say that Rayleigh could "theoretically" destroy small planets, but since the One Piece planet is awfully big, he can't destroy it.

BUT

If a Vice Captain's bounty ~ 0.5 x the captain's bounty = 400 000 Douriki

If Roger's bounty = 5.6 Billion

Then Roger = 800 000 Douriki = 8000 OPPL = 80 000 DBPL

Roger would be a little bit stronger than Krilin in the Frieza Saga that is around 75 000 DBPL

If we compare Dragon Ball and One Piece with similar tools, Roger could "theoretically" CRACK (but not destroy) the One Piece planet, but I think he would need to give everything into one single attack

MORAL : OP characters are much stronger than we think and I think most of the time, they do not make big damages simply because their attacks are directed at each others.

 

[Blax Blah]

Logiko has done it

 

[matt245]

The fuck

 

[zenox]

Most sane onepiece glazer

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

King Vegeta destroyed multiple planets with a casual wave of his hands, who told you it requires 500K to blow up a big planet?

1k is enough, 5K is more than enough and 10K is way more than enough.

Even Roshi could destroy the moon when he had a PL of 300.



So even whe we go by all feats and logic, One piece top tiers or god tiers cap out a casual Roshi of 300 with wank.

He still one shots them and this much is true.

 

[Reborn]

I have no idea what did I just read

 

[Logiko]

I have no idea what did I just read

Real powerscaling.

The fuck

The fun thing is that I invented only 1 Data : Arlong = 3 Fishmen

King Vegeta destroyed multiple planets with a casual wave of his hands, who told you it requires 500K to blow up a big planet?

This video:

Someone did the calculus based on the informations we have and they came to the conclusion that to destroy a small planet, 10 K would be enough but to destroy a big planet 10 times the gravity of our Earth, 500 K would be requiered since Frieza did that.

You also need to take into account the fact that the Dragon Ball planet is very small, I wouldn't even be surprised if it is smaller than our own moon. This means that the moon of this planet would be even smaller and easier to destroy. Which checks out.

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

Real powerscaling.





The fun thing is that I invented only 1 Data : Arlong = 3 Fishmen


This video:

Someone did the calculus based on the informations we have and they came to the conclusion that to destroy a small planet, 10 K would be enough but to destroy a big planet 10 times the gravity of our Earth, 500 K would be requiered since Frieza did that.

You also need to take into account the fact that the Dragon Ball planet is very small, I wouldn't even be surprised if it is smaller than our own moon. This means that the moon of this planet would be even smaller and easier to destroy. Which checks out.

First of all, random Youbtube powerscaler is a already a very big minus.


Second, the only very small planet in dragon is King Kais planet which spans only 63 miles or so.

Every planet is either normal or humongous, zero idea where you get the idea the dragonball planets are small.

Thirdly, King vegeta once again, someone with a powwr level of 10,000 casually waved his had and blew up three planets in space.

 

[Logiko]

Every planet is either normal or humongous, zero idea where you get the idea the dragonball planets are small.

The ideas that even at super speed, you can fly between continent in such a short period shows that the Earth of Dragon Ball is actually not that big.

But I'm not against the idea that the earth of Dragon Ball can be destroyed. It's just means that if we compare Dragon Ball and One Piece with the same tools, some people far weaker that Rayleigh could destroy planets and Moons, including Luffy in Enies Lobby

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

The ideas that even at super speed, you can fly between continent in such a short period shows that the Earth of Dragon Ball is actually not that big.

But I'm not against the idea that the earth of Dragon Ball can be destroyed. It's just means that if we compare Dragon Ball and One Piece with the same tools, some people far weaker that Rayleigh could destroy planets and Moons, including Luffy in Enies Lobby

.......What?

At the speed of light you can circle around earth more than 7 times in one second.

DB characters are far faster than that, a causal Whis and Beerus travel between galaxies or universes in hours.


Using super speed as proof of something being small cause it happens so quickly is a weird place to come from.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

King Vegeta destroyed multiple planets with a casual wave of his hands, who told you it requires 500K to blow up a big planet?
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No canon. Freezer needed more 70% to destroy big planet (like namek)

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I think start of series Goku is more than 2x the farmer. He could tank bullets and lift small cars with one hand.

 

[NikaInParis]

"Then 1 Fishman ~ 10 Farmers with Guns = 5 DBGoku"

Everything afterwards is just icing on the powerscaling cake

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Real powerscaling.





The fun thing is that I invented only 1 Data : Arlong = 3 Fishmen


This video:

Someone did the calculus based on the informations we have and they came to the conclusion that to destroy a small planet, 10 K would be enough but to destroy a big planet 10 times the gravity of our Earth, 500 K would be requiered since Frieza did that.

You also need to take into account the fact that the Dragon Ball planet is very small, I wouldn't even be surprised if it is smaller than our own moon. This means that the moon of this planet would be even smaller and easier to destroy. Which checks out.

None until Freezer destroyed any planet (manga). Even freezer with his 70% had difficulty to destroy namek (which survived genkai dama).

 

[Logiko]

.......What?

At the speed of light you can circle around earth more than 7 times in one second.

DB characters are far faster than that, a causal Whis and Beerus travel between galaxies or universes in hours.


Using super speed as proof of something being small cause it happens so quickly is a weird place to come from.

Maybe. But I doubt that they use this speed when they travel around the world. And in those case, even if they go fast, they are not - at least not as I remember it - using Superman's speed travel.

But again, I'm not against the idea. It would only mean that some weaker One Piece character can blow up a planet.

I think start of series Goku is more than 2x the farmer. He could tank bullets and lift small cars with one hand.

I'm using the informations available. And it is said that while a farmer is 5 DBPL, Goku (at the start of his adventure) is 10.

I'm willing to change the calculus if there is new information available.

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PS: I added a new calculus, this time with the (non canon) idea that Starting Goku is 10 times a farmer with a gun and a farmer is worth 1 Dragon Ball Power Level.

 

[Shiroyru]

@Logiko, Do you believe that DBZ farmers can destroy 1/20th of the moon?

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko, Do you believe that DBZ farmers can destroy 1/20th of the moon?

Well.. I'm just doing basic mathematics here.



This is what powerscaling looks like when you stick to the T to what the narration and the officials guides tells us.

Now, I'm not against creating a new powerscale, but this would mean, reworking everything and integrating headcanons.

 

[Shiroyru]

Well.. I'm just doing basic mathematics here.



This is what powerscaling looks like when you stick to the T to what the narration and the officials guides tells us.

Now, I'm not against creating a new powerscale, but this would mean, reworking everything and integrating headcanons.

If you believe the average human in DB, with a power level of 5, is capable of destroying 1/20th of the moon, that just means that DB humans are much stronger than real life humans.

A real life human would have a PL of 0.00001 (being very generous and assuming a human could even destroy a millionth of the moon by themselves). So Fishmen would only have a PL of 0.0001 and you’d have to adjust your scale from there

 

[Logiko]

If you believe the average human in DB, with a power level of 5, is capable of destroying 1/20th of the moon, that just means that DB humans are much stronger than real life humans.

A real life human would have a PL of 0.00001 (being very generous and assuming a human could even destroy a millionth of the moon by themselves). So Fishmen would only have a PL of 0.0001 and you’d have to adjust your scale from there

Fair.

But this wouldn't really make sence, right ? I mean, do you think a human in Dragon Ball is capable of destroying 1/20th of a moon ?

Not really. So my point is that the scale is broken to begin with and if we follow it strictly, it won't work.

I think we need something a little bit more complex than that.