Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1134 Spoilers Discussion

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It's not like I'm shocked knowing Oda, but that's just not how I imagined Elbaf being.
I wonder what are the implications for Usopp
I would be positively surprised if he raised that point for usopp but for me it seems like it's just more of the thematic arc of the final saga.
Same with the free/infinite energy thing, which was funny enough dropped at a similar point in egghead
 
The evil shanks was needed so Oda can have Luffy fight shanks. That feels like genuinely the only reason he exists. Oda can’t have Luffy fight real shanks cause he wrote their connection to be too friendly to have any animosity or stakes so he brings in an evil shanks to fill the hole. And while shanks’ parallel fights Luffy, Shanks will fight Luffys parallel in Blackbeard.

Cliche but it’s not bad
 
The evil shanks was needed so Oda can have Luffy fight shanks. That feels like genuinely the only reason he exists. Oda can’t have Luffy fight real shanks cause he wrote their connection to be too friendly to have any animosity or stakes so he brings in an evil shanks to fill the hole. And while shanks’ parallel fights Luffy, Shanks will fight Luffys parallel in Blackbeard.

Cliche but it’s not bad
I don't think this forum can take Luffy fighting pranks
Also I don't know if shanks vs Luffy is something oda wants to draw really bad, I personally never got that vibe
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No more brother wars :endthis:
 
El hermano and this thread might not reach 100 pages
This place is dead
We passed 100, that's something.

It was wishful thinking. Oda really needs to grow a spine and let the “mentor” be a flawed character like other mangaka do
It is weird, because 95% of characters in One Piece are just horrible people.

Straw Hats really go with vibes and don't look at the bigger picture.

But Shanks really doesn't have a character flaw.
 
The evil shanks was needed so Oda can have Luffy fight shanks. That feels like genuinely the only reason he exists. Oda can’t have Luffy fight real shanks cause he wrote their connection to be too friendly to have any animosity or stakes so he brings in an evil shanks to fill the hole. And while shanks’ parallel fights Luffy, Shanks will fight Luffys parallel in Blackbeard.

Cliche but it’s not bad
It wasn’t “needed” but I get your point
 
I don't think this forum can take Luffy fighting pranks
Also I don't know if shanks vs Luffy is something oda wants to draw really bad, I personally never got that vibe
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I feel like Oda will absolutely take the knock off Luffy vs shanks if for no reason but for the emotional drama that comes with it.

It’s kinda like Sabo eating aces fruit. It was cliche emotional payoff, but it was effective.
 
The evil shanks was needed so Oda can have Luffy fight shanks. That feels like genuinely the only reason he exists. Oda can’t have Luffy fight real shanks cause he wrote their connection to be too friendly to have any animosity or stakes so he brings in an evil shanks to fill the hole. And while shanks’ parallel fights Luffy, Shanks will fight Luffys parallel in Blackbeard.

Cliche but it’s not bad
Idk man, Oda has created scenes already where Luffy has declarated wanting to fight Shanks and the implied vice versa. But I guess if you want Luffy to fully mop the floor then it makes "sense". Or Oda could have just made Shanks a morally complex character but here we are lol
 
Still hoping it's Shanks himself, but this more of a "I don't like where the story is going so I'm hoping for something else" than something I actually believe
Its definitely pranks lol, I remember once oda got nervous when someone asked him about Shanks missing his scar when talking with the Gorosei.

gotta give props to Oda, in some sense this does seem planned for awhile
 
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