Character Discussion Stabs is a clone of Shanks

[Dilan]

Stabs is clearly a clone that Garling asked Vegapunk to make of Shanks.

MADs created first clone Stussy 36 years ago. Then Vegapunk became scientist for WG 26 yrs ago.

Stussy joined Cipher pol. Anyone in the WG who knows the real Stussy, the one who was Rocks ally who attacked the celestial dragons and Holy knights with him at God valley. Would know she wouldn't join Cipher pol. I believe Garling comfirmed via Stussy that she was a clone and Vegapunk could create clones.

And asked him to clone Shanks.

The celestials lost shanks at God valley. And seeing his accolades and exploits as a pirate combating monsters such as the Yonko and Mihawk. The celestial dragons knew they had lost out significantly.

Garling then asked Vegapunk with the command the Celestial dragons(who are the WG) have over him to create a clone of Shanks.
Given Shanks was with the Celestial dragons for 1 Yr prior to God valley. They had blood and dna samples to take from to make the clone.

Then this clone was born. And Garling trained him with God knights and he became the Supreme Commander.

Shanks doesn't have some twin brother or sibling or cousin. This guy has the exact same facial hair and hairstyle as shanks. It is very unlikely to be just family member.

And with the strong emphasis on cloning and the problems it can create. It makes sense

Why would the celestial dragons who had Vegapunk for 26 years not make use of this cloning technology.
And the person they decided to clone was Shanks

 

[Moegara]

Well, Pranks could be a clone. The timeline doesn't fully make sense for him to look the same age as Shanks, but we know clones can reach maturity much faster so who knows. The part of the theory that kind of falls off in the theory is WG keeping blood or DNA samples of Shanks lying around decades after he was kidnapped (as a baby).

Also...

Shanks doesn't have some twin brother or sibling or cousin. This guy has the exact same facial hair and hairstyle as shanks. It is very unlikely to be just family member.

Is the argument for Pranks being unlikely a twin of Shanks that they're too identical to be twins?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

I don't think Skanks is a clone, probably just a brother.

 

[Juanpiz]

Clone wars

 

[Flappy]

Maybe both are clones of Figarland. And the story could resemble that of Sanji. Shanks was supposed to be a failure and got left behind and found by Roger and the other one was trained by Figarland.

 

[Dilan]

Well, Pranks could be a clone. The timeline doesn't fully make sense for him to look the same age as Shanks, but we know clones can reach maturity much faster so who knows. The part of the theory that kind of falls off in the theory is WG keeping blood or DNA samples of Shanks lying around decades after he was kidnapped (as a baby).

Also...

Is the argument for Pranks being unlikely a twin of Shanks that they're too identical to be twins?

G the hospital you were born in still has records of your birth in their system. Even after the minimum decade you've been a life.
The celestial dragons have access to the best medical care in the world and the best hospital facilities in their Kingdom.

Shanks birth records would still be in mariejois. And they would very Likely still have blood samples from him. They keep blood samples of you from blood tests.

It took 5 years to mature 20 Yr old clones for Judge. And vegapunk has been working for the celestial dragons for 26 years

Stabs isnt a twin. Me mentioning The identical hairstyle and facial hair reinforces that belief because 2 people who grew up in completely different environments and lifestyles for 38 years shouldn't have the exact same facial hair and hairstyle. These are born from environmental factors.

If stabs had Young Garlings design. I would be far more inclined to believe Stabs is shanks twin or brother

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I don't think Skanks is a clone, probably just a brother.

Stabs is a clone bruh. Vegapunk creates clones. The celestial dragons had access to this clone technology through Vegapunk and he creates shit for them.

Created clone pacifista of Kuma. Created clones of seraphim. And finally a clone of Shanks

 

[BornInAbyss]

Good Theory. Definetly possible

 

[milluki]

identical twins are clones anyway

 

[Dilan]

Maybe both are clones of Figarland. And the story could resemble that of Sanji. Shanks was supposed to be a failure and got left behind and found by Roger and the other one was trained by Figarland.

There's no way they are gonna abandon shanks at birth. The celestial dragons keep and raise guys like charlos myosgard and Homing.
They don't care about the child being weak or having no aptitude for combat or being useless

 

[Juanpiz]

There's no way they are gonna abandon shanks at birth. The celestial dragons keep and raise guys like charlos myosgard and Homing.
They don't care about the child being weak or having no aptitude for combat or being useless

Maybe garling was so arrogant that he thought he will keep his son

 

[Moegara]

Stabs isnt a twin. Me mentioning The identical hairstyle and facial hair reinforces that belief because 2 people who grew up in completely different environments and lifestyles for 38 years shouldn't have the exact same facial hair and hairstyle. These are born from environmental factors.

Yes, hairstyle and facial hair are "environmental factors"... so how does them having the same style reinforce he was cloned with DNA from back when he was born?

In fact, if what they were going for was the Seraphim effect of inheriting an adult's techniques and strengths (and thus, as a side effect, his quirks and style), they should have gone with adult Shanks' DNA. If he was cloned as a baby, he wouldn't have his "environmentally acquired" style.

If stabs had Young Garlings design. I would be far more inclined to believe Stabs is shanks twin or brother

He was still raised by Garling or at least by the WG, and you're arguing that they got his DNA as a baby, so he should still have his father's style following this logic.

 

[moreha9685]

identical twins are clones anyway

Said no doctor or parent ever.

 

[milluki]

Said no doctor or parent ever.

many rich people have already cloned their dogs. those are like identical twins. doesn't mean they are exactly the same. epigenetics and such can still make a difference. identical twins share similar upbringing and so on. clones might be alot older than the original. so clones might even be less similar than identical twins.

 

[moreha9685]

many rich people have already cloned their dogs. those are like identical twins. doesn't mean they are exactly the same. epigenetics and such can still make a difference. identical twins share similar upbringing and so on. clones might be alot older than the original. so clones might even be less similar than identical twins.

"Yes, I have two children. A son, and his clone."