Powers & Abilities Crocodile should have conquerors if Mihawk does

#41
Again you are using this term very liberally

Just because Mihawk doesn’t want to be the boss of cross guild you think he has such high regard for crocodile?

mihawk is literally fine with Buggy being the boss… Mihawk doesn’t see being the boss of cross guild as a position worth anything

And no, don’t randomly give Mihawk and crocodile motivations they aren’t stated to have… Mihawk joined crocodile because cross guild would give him cover from the marines… Crocodile asked mihawk to join him for muscle… don’t randomly assert they have any deeper feelings towards one another than stated
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Crocodile wouldn’t let him be the boss of cross guild and vice versa. Both mihawk and crocodile have equal say when it comes to cross guild and that’s why they teamed up

Buggy was never supposed to have any actual say over cross guild and was never meant to be actually in charge of anything. He was just to be a face for the organization so they can work in the shadows after he accidentally got credit for the whole thing



They are working together for a common goal that benefits them both the same. Crocodile being the brains and mihawk being the muscle.
 
#43
MF Crocodile looks down on Conqueror Doflamingo and tells him the partnership is off because he doesn't consider him equal.
According to you, Conqueror Doffy should be qualified to be Crocodile's equal... Or not? :sanmoji:
What partnership? Croco doesn´t want to partner with anyone at the time. That gives him COC now? Lmao, that is literally meaningless then
 
#44
MF Crocodile looks down on Conqueror Doflamingo and tells him the partnership is off because he doesn't consider him equal.
According to you, Conqueror Doffy should be qualified to be Crocodile's equal... Or not? :sanmoji:
Him looking down on a conqueror does help. Mihawk is one of the few people crocodile is okay viewing as an equal tho and if he’s a conqueror that helps crocodile even more

Technically looking down on a conqueror doesn’t mean you are one cause there are other cases of it but imo viewing someone as your equal definitely helps more
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#45
What partnership? Croco doesn´t want to partner with anyone at the time. That gives him COC now? Lmao, that is literally meaningless then
Dofmalingo proposed partnership and Crocodile refused it, brushing him off that he ain't his equal.
I never said Crocodile has CoC.

Him looking down on a conqueror does help. Mihawk is one of the few people crocodile is okay viewing as an equal tho and if he’s a conqueror that helps crocodile even more

Technically looking down on a conqueror doesn’t mean you are one cause there are other cases of it but imo viewing someone as your equal definitely helps more
Why Mihawk works and Doflamingo doesn't, as equal partners of Crocodile? :sanmoji:
 
#46
Dofmalingo proposed partnership and Crocodile refused it, brushing him off that he ain't his equal.
I never said Crocodile has CoC.


Why Mihawk works and Doflamingo doesn't, as equal partners of Crocodile? :sanmoji:
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Like I said I think they both help his case of having it. At the same time we admittedly have seen non conquerors think themselves superior to actual conquerors. So while yeah his response to Doffy helps it doesn’t set it in stone
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#47
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Like I said I think they both help his case of having it. At the same time we admittedly have seen non conquerors think themselves superior to actual conquerors. So while yeah his response to Doffy helps it doesn’t set it in stone
Why does Crocodile consider conqueror Mihawk as his equal while at the same time not treating conqueror Doflamingo as his equal? :sanmoji:
 
#48
Dofmalingo proposed partnership and Crocodile refused it, brushing him off that he ain't his equal.
I never said Crocodile has CoC.


Why Mihawk works and Doflamingo doesn't, as equal partners of Crocodile? :sanmoji:
Sure, but him not wanting work with Doffy doesnt mean Croco is above Doffy or something. He just wasn´t interested in that point. How many people rejected working for Kaido?
 
#49
Why does Crocodile consider conqueror Mihawk as his equal while at the same time not treating conqueror Doflamingo as his equal? :sanmoji:
He has respect for him and they have a similar past of betrayal

Also Doflamingo is insane crocodile is right not to actually trust him lol. Man is only in it for himself

Crocodile and mihawk can actually work together and have reasonable trust in the other
 
#50
Crocodile wouldn’t let him be the boss of cross guild and vice versa.
Crocodile asked Mihawk whether he wanted to be the Yonko and mihawk declined

crocodile didn’t say “I won’t let you be the Yonko”… He asked mihawk AND WAITED FOR MIHAWK’S RESPONSE

I’m done. I’m not entertaining your fanfiction
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#51
Sure, but him not wanting work with Doffy doesnt mean Croco is above Doffy or something. He just wasn´t interested in that point. How many people rejected working for Kaido?
Certainly but I do think he is stronger than Doffy.


He has respect for him and they have a similar past of betrayal

Also Doflamingo is insane crocodile is right not to actually trust him lol. Man is only in it for himself

Crocodile and mihawk can actually work together and have reasonable trust in the other
So where is the need for Crocodile to have CoC in all of that? :sanmoji:
 
#52
Crocodile asked Mihawk whether he wanted to be the Yonko and mihawk declined

crocodile didn’t say “I won’t let you be the Yonko”… He asked mihawk AND WAITED FOR MIHAWK’S RESPONSE

I’m done. I’m not entertaining your fanfiction
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Well no that didn’t happen lol
Mihawk suggested they let buggy stay the face of cross guild so they can work in the background. With crocodile agreeing that it’s a good idea. Neither of them wanting the position. Mihawk was never offered an emperor position or turned it down

Crocodile at no point asked mihawk if he wants to become his boss


Talking about fan fiction as if you didn’t dream up your whole post
:sanmoji:

Certainly but I do think he is stronger than Doffy.



So where is the need for Crocodile to have CoC in all of that? :sanmoji:
There is no “need” for any character to have conquerors
That doesn’t mean certain things can’t help a character’s chances of being one
 
#53
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Crocodile wouldn’t let him be the boss of cross guild and vice versa. Both mihawk and crocodile have equal say when it comes to cross guild and that’s why they teamed up

Buggy was never supposed to have any actual say over cross guild and was never meant to be actually in charge of anything. He was just to be a face for the organization so they can work in the shadows after he accidentally got credit for the whole thing



They are working together for a common goal that benefits them both the same. Crocodile being the brains and mihawk being the muscle.
The funny thing is that they expected Mihawk to lead or give orders

Turns out Croco and Mihawk work as equals with nobody viewing the other as inferior
Both are put on same pedestals by Oda (although Mihawk is stronger)
 
#55
There is no “need” for any character to have conquerors
That doesn’t mean certain things can’t help a character’s chances of being one
It is and will be useless for a logia user.
They don't fight like Haki users. And Base CoC is practically useless after the introduction of Advanced Conqueror.
No Logia user uses Conqueror except ace and even he doesn't use it. He unlocked it before Getting the fruit.
No other Logia user are even confirmed to have it. Nor do they show any sign.
 
#56
The funny thing is that they expected Mihawk to lead or give orders

Turns out Croco and Mihawk work as equals with nobody viewing the other as inferior
Both are put on same pedestals by Oda (although Mihawk is stronger)
Brain and brawn
Wealth and power
How does Mihawk's CoC help Crocodile's CoC chances? :sanmoji:
The first post

If mihawk has conquerors so should crocodile

Same way only a conqueror should only be able to become subordinate to a better conqueror it only makes sense for a conqueror to only consider another conqueror on equal

Like kaido was allied with Doflamingo Caesar and orochi but even when working with them during to common interests he never viewed any of them as his equals. Doffy never viewed Caesar as his equal either


Even with luffy and his alliances while luffy doesn’t outright view anyone as lesser than him it’s clear that they view him as more. With Luffy pretty much doing whatever he wants. He even refused law ending the alliance because he didn’t want it to


Crocodile and mihawk outright view each other as equals and have genuine respect for each other. With them not being able to work together any other way. Both having to much pride to be seen as below the other


Anyone a conqueror views as an equal to them imo should also probably be a conqueror
If mihawk has conquerors so should crocodile Same

Same for the admirals. Can’t imagine a conqueror working under a non conqueror
As for buggy he’s Buggy


It is and will be useless for a logia user.
They don't fight like Haki users. And Base CoC is practically useless after the introduction of Advanced Conqueror.
No Logia user uses Conqueror except ace and even he doesn't use it. He unlocked it before Getting the fruit.
No other Logia user are even confirmed to have it. Nor do they show any sign.
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Devil fruits don’t have an effect on haki
Not everyone needs to be able to infuse conquerors in their attacks
 
#57
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Devil fruits don’t have an effect on haki
Not everyone needs to be able to infuse conquerors in their attacks
So if you fuckin open your eyes and read next time.
Logia users rely on their fruit way more than Haki. They are arrogant and Overconfidant , this goes with literally every Logia user so far.
Name me a single Haki feat which is top tier level coming from logia users.

- " Not everyone needs to be able to infuse conquerors in their attack "

For CoC , yes it is important.
Base CoC is useless. What strength did it gave to luffy till rooftop?

Only advanced Conqueror makes the real difference.

Base CoC is judt crowd control which any scary character can do.
 
#58
Big mom, kaido, whitebeard, Doflamingo, Hancock, kid, chinjao, etc weren’t genetically passed down conquerors from their parents
It is genetically, passed, that's why it's 1 in a million.

It's like genes for certain traits, or intelligence, having an IQ of 150+ might be 1 in 10 million people.

Things you can't choose are genetics. You don't choose to have Conqueror's Haki, otherwise you would be able to train it. That's why Garp said he was born with it and Ivankov said the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You don't choose to be tall, you don't choose to have the height and athleticism to play basketball or NBA. You don't choose to be born without empathy, you don't choose to be a psychopath or a cannibal. You're just born that way.

This idea that if you're proud and ambitious = Conqueror's Haki falls flat when you realise there are 1,000s of kings and leaders in One Piece who do not have it.
It's not a power that one develops from having a certain personality, it's something you're either born with.

If being arrogant meant you'll have Conqueror's Haki, then Luffy or Katakuri wouldn't have it. Luffy doesn't even want to be a leader which people think is a prerequisite, he wouldn't have it.

Conqueror's Haki has nothing to do with personality, it's something developed by 1 in a million people.

Furthermore, is it 1 in a million to have Crocodile's arrogance and narcissism? No, there are millions of people with similar personality traits. It's genetic.

Big mom, kaido, whitebeard, Doflamingo, Hancock, kid, chinjao, etc weren’t genetically passed down conquerors from their parents
That's like saying Big Mom's body wasn't inherited.
Genes mutate, some genes are hidden from 100s of years ago and appear many generations later. Her parents are tiny while she's gigantic... doesn't mean she can't be born a giant. Genes can mutate which is why siblings can have 99% similar genetic code, and still be different. You don't just look at someone and their parent, see there's a difference and then determine they're not related. Genes are not things you really determine from eye-sight... could have 2 scientist couples have a kid who grows up with learning difficulties or disabled... does that mean they're not related genetically?

It's like saying White people don't have genes to be Dark skinned.... even though everyone originates from Africa.
Genes can stay hidden and appear many generations later.
So, the idea that because Big Mom's parents didn't have it... doesn't mean she didn't inherit it. There are millions of genes in the body that just don't show up, and sometimes they just happen to become dominant and this is why there's variation between people regardless of relation.

There are people who have short parents and short grand-parents who end up extremely tall, why? Genes. That's just how science works.
 
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#59
It is genetically, passed, that's why it's 1 in a million.

It's like genes for certain traits, or intelligence, having an IQ of 150+ might be 1 in 10 million people.

Things you can't choose are genetics. You don't choose to have Conqueror's Haki, otherwise you would be able to train it.

This idea that if you're proud and ambitious = Conqueror's Haki falls flat when you realise there are 1,000s of kings and leaders in One Piece who do not have it.
It's not a power that one develops from having a certain personality, it's something you're either born with.

If being arrogant meant you'll have Conqueror's Haki, then Luffy or Katakuri wouldn't have it. Luffy doesn't even want to be a leader which people think is a prerequisite, he wouldn't have it.

Conqueror's Haki has nothing to do with personality, it's something developed by 1 in a million people.

Furthermore, is it 1 in a million to have Crocodile's arrogance and narcissism? No, there are millions of people with similar personality traits. It's genetic.
And genes logic falls flat when Out of 85 Bigmam Kids only one of them has it.
 
#60
And genes logic falls flat when Out of 85 Bigmam Kids only one of them has it.
Not really, they said Conqueror's Haki is 1 in million.
You can't really compare 85 kids to 1 million people.
That's 85/1,000,000.

You're missing out on another 999,915 people. Being born with conqueror's Haki is a lottery that people are born into. 1 in a million.
 
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