And that's gaslighting, I didn't say you making claim about palastinjan oppression means you justify terrorism, I said you call terrorists oppressed and resistance is you justifying terrorism because you make it seem like they have a valid justified reason to go around and rape and burn people alive. did you see the Jews going around killing and raping German people after the Holocaust ? because that is much more valid then your "oppression" and even that's wrong.
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The Hamas movement was founded by Palestinian Islamic scholar Ahmed Yassin in 1987, after the outbreak of the First Intifada against the Israeli occupation. It emerged from his 1973 Mujama al-Islamiya Islamic charity affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.[26] In 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Hamas secured a majority in the Palestinian Legislative Council by campaigning on promises of a corruption-free government and advocating for resistance as a means to liberate Palestine from Israeli occupation.[27][28] In the Battle of Gaza (2007), Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip from rival Palestinian faction Fatah,[29][30] and has since governed the territory separately from the Palestinian National Authority. After Hamas's takeover, Israel significantly intensified existing movement restrictions and imposed a complete blockade of the Gaza Strip.[31] Egypt began its blockade of Gaza in 2007. This was followed by multiple wars with Israel, including those in 2008–09, 2012, 2014, 2021, and an ongoing one since 2023, which began with the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel.
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The norm of war from a historical perspective. It will never change. Also you forgot to mention raping women incl young girls and forcing the enemy's male children to fight in one's own army.
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Another standard in human history: upcoming leaders and governments breaking promises
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I have false assumption when you call terrorists resistance, right. what a waste of time 
Your level of ignorance needs to be studied lol
Ironic, I need to post the same shit 5 times for you to finally understand and address it and u say I am ignorant, listen retard it's really not that hard, If u think hamas started of as a resistance ur just retarded and really not worth talking to, as I have explained multiple times why it's false yet you never addresed it.
I'm leaving my break to tell you one thing. Because I've seen you say a lot of wrong things on top of defending a genocide here.
Resistance against an oppressive regime is ALWAYS legitimate ! And Israel has been just that since its creation.
It doesn't mean that all the actions of said resistance are legitimate.
The hamas being a resistance movement does mean that they were legitimate in doing a war crime on october 7. The status of resistance of the armed groups in Gaza is a simple factual geopolitical data, not a moral observation.
The reason why we must not call them terrorist is because it would render illegitimate every political movement of resistance against oppression in the world and I'm sure you can understand why it would be dramatic and unethical.
Just like we must keep countries like Israel or the US accountable for their war crimes and crimes against humanity, we must keep resistance movement accountable as well.
This can only be done by naming things clearly, in accordance with international laws and ethic.
Resistance against an oppressive regime is ALWAYS legitimate ! And Israel has been just that since its creation.
It doesn't mean that all the actions of said resistance are legitimate.
The hamas being a resistance movement does mean that they were legitimate in doing a war crime on october 7. The status of resistance of the armed groups in Gaza is a simple factual geopolitical data, not a moral observation.
The reason why we must not call them terrorist is because it would render illegitimate every political movement of resistance against oppression in the world and I'm sure you can understand why it would be dramatic and unethical.
Just like we must keep countries like Israel or the US accountable for their war crimes and crimes against humanity, we must keep resistance movement accountable as well.
This can only be done by naming things clearly, in accordance with international laws and ethic.
I'm not assuming shit, you call them opressed and resistance, even if by ur retarded opinion it was only in the beginning ( it never was ) is you justifying terrorism,when you make excuses such as "oppressed miserable people" and provide "context" that supposed to make people more sympathized to them you in fact sympathize terrorists, is this slow enough for you or your dull mind still not getting it ?
I was talking about all Palestinians genius, and never said "miserable" lol. Innocent people and Hamas are both Palestine. Israel was oppressing Palestine, and Hamas was a resistance group created because of it, that turned into full blown terrorists. Do you follow?
Good to know that calling Hamas terrorists that kills innocent people is somehow justifying their actions still lol. You made an assumption that was proven wrong when I elaborated to avoid any confusion. You assumed intent and refused to admit it lmao.
I'm done here. Mentioning history means you personally sympathize with terrorists. Gimme a break lol
Good to know that calling Hamas terrorists that kills innocent people is somehow justifying their actions still lol. You made an assumption that was proven wrong when I elaborated to avoid any confusion. You assumed intent and refused to admit it lmao.
I'm done here. Mentioning history means you personally sympathize with terrorists. Gimme a break lol
You are wrong about Hamas being born as just a resistance movement, they have always being terrorists:
"Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—an umbrella organization for disparate Palestinian factions that ranged from Marxist to secular nationalists—by propagating resistance in the religious context of jihad, or a holy struggle and martyrdom. “Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes,” Hamas said in its first statement in the late 1980s. Predominantly Shiite Iran has armed, trained and funded Hamas since the late 1980s largely due to its opposition to Israel and Islamic ideology."
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2023/oct/19/doctrine-hamas
"Hamas, militant Palestinian nationalist and Islamist movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that is dedicated to the establishment of an independent Islamic state in historical Palestine. Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced the use of violence, including acts of terrorism, as a means to achieve its goals."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hamas
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*Cough* Muslim brotherhood*Cough*
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@Uncle Van More:
HAMAS emerged in 1987 during the first Palestinian uprising, or intifada, as an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power. In 2017, HAMAS amended its charter to remove a call for Israel’s destruction. Nonetheless, the group does not recognize Israel as a state and continues to advocate all forms of resistance against the country.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html#:~:text=HAMAS emerged in 1987 during,the Palestinian Authority from power.
Original 1988 Chart:
The original Charter identified Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and described its members to be god-fearing Muslims raising the banner of Jihad (armed struggle) in "the face of the oppressors." The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[4][5][6] The charter has been criticized for its use of antisemitic language,[7][8] which some commentators have characterized as incitement to genocide.[9][10] Hamas's 2017 charter removed the antisemitic language and clarified Hamas's struggle is with Zionists, not Jews.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter
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Killing innocents is legitimate?
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Anyone saying Hamas was not a terrorist organization since it's inception is full of shit.
"Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—an umbrella organization for disparate Palestinian factions that ranged from Marxist to secular nationalists—by propagating resistance in the religious context of jihad, or a holy struggle and martyrdom. “Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes,” Hamas said in its first statement in the late 1980s. Predominantly Shiite Iran has armed, trained and funded Hamas since the late 1980s largely due to its opposition to Israel and Islamic ideology."
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2023/oct/19/doctrine-hamas
"Hamas, militant Palestinian nationalist and Islamist movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that is dedicated to the establishment of an independent Islamic state in historical Palestine. Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced the use of violence, including acts of terrorism, as a means to achieve its goals."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hamas
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@Uncle Van More:
HAMAS emerged in 1987 during the first Palestinian uprising, or intifada, as an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power. In 2017, HAMAS amended its charter to remove a call for Israel’s destruction. Nonetheless, the group does not recognize Israel as a state and continues to advocate all forms of resistance against the country.
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html#:~:text=HAMAS emerged in 1987 during,the Palestinian Authority from power.
Original 1988 Chart:
The original Charter identified Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and described its members to be god-fearing Muslims raising the banner of Jihad (armed struggle) in "the face of the oppressors." The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[4][5][6] The charter has been criticized for its use of antisemitic language,[7][8] which some commentators have characterized as incitement to genocide.[9][10] Hamas's 2017 charter removed the antisemitic language and clarified Hamas's struggle is with Zionists, not Jews.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter
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Killing innocents is legitimate?
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Anyone saying Hamas was not a terrorist organization since it's inception is full of shit.
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