Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Y’all are going to hate me so I’m going to choose my words carefully lmfao.

They definitely don’t seem to have that much brute strength, but in terms of actual talent/skill they could be quite high up there. Very very high indeed if we consider that these guys’ natural talent is high enough to repel Gokei and Renpa.

Dare I say….

Sei’s Coronation Shouheikun level? Lol
:crazwhat:

This manga is truly finished if Hara drove you to say this
 
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Hara actually respects Gigakou unlike Hobopa whom he whores around from state to state as China's biggest hypetool
Akou was in 2 arcs and was a complete joke in both
In shukai he goes into a coma and Shin has to carry his weight and in the last arc he falls into an obvious plan and has us doubting if he was a double agent working for Riboku.
Akou's IQ barely hits double digits.
He was simply Ousen's Futei.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
:crazwhat:

This manga is truly finished if Hara drove you to say this
Ay I’m not married to these guys’ overall level at this point because we really don’t know shit about them.

I will say though, if Han didn’t have commanders capable of repelling Wei and Zhao, then Han’s survival in the era where both Qin and Zhao wanted to unify China is a plothole.

People were acting like these guys being this strong was a plot hole, but like….Renpa and Rinshoujou also wanted to unify China. Why didn’t they just attack Han?

Well, now we know. Lol @Rumble
 
Ay I’m not married to these guys’ overall level at this point because we really don’t know shit about them.

I will say though, if Han didn’t have commanders capable of repelling Wei and Zhao, then Han’s survival in the era where both Qin and Zhao wanted to unify China is a plothole.

People were acting like these guys being this strong was a plot hole, but like….Renpa and Rinshoujou also wanted to unify China. Why didn’t they just attack Han?

Well, now we know. Lol @Rumble
Yet they weren't mentioned repelling Mougou during his invasion of Han.

Mougoat >>> Hobopa definitively confirmed? :beanmean:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Yet they weren't mentioned repelling Mougou during his invasion of Han.

Mougoat >>> Hobopa definitively confirmed? :beanmean:
Facts.

I honestly think it is because Han employed the same strategy against Tou. They just allowed Mougou to take territories from them in order to prioritize defending Shintei.

Han having guys this strong doesn’t mean they would react to someone like Mougou differently. It just means they are capable of defending existential threats to their state if all else fails.

Imo.
 
Ay I’m not married to these guys’ overall level at this point because we really don’t know shit about them.

I will say though, if Han didn’t have commanders capable of repelling Wei and Zhao, then Han’s survival in the era where both Qin and Zhao wanted to unify China is a plothole.

People were acting like these guys being this strong was a plot hole, but like….Renpa and Rinshoujou also wanted to unify China. Why didn’t they just attack Han?

Well, now we know. Lol @Rumble
No one was against Han having strong commanders lol
I wanted them to have a few super strong Qin6 level Gg's that also have their own set of decently strong vassals
The problem was how aura less and bland these 2 look and acted that made us think they were absolute garbage
I wouldn't have cared if Han had a Riboku level or even stronger GG that could have dominated China had he been born in any other state but was forced to only be a defensive general because of his state's weakness. That would have been pretty cool honestly.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
No one was against Han having strong commanders lol
There are people in TKC and other communities who hate how strong these guys are. Lol

The problem was how aura less and bland these 2 look and acted that made us think they were absolute garbage
Definitely intentional subversion. He didn’t want us to know how crazy these mofos were at first lmfao.

I wouldn't have cared if Han had a Riboku level or even stronger GG that could have dominated China had he been born in any other state but was forced to only be a defensive general because of his state's weakness. That would have been pretty cool honestly.
That’s basically what we got bro lmfao. Two dudes who repelled Renpa and Gokei while quite inexperienced.
 
How strong are we talking, like JKR/ Gakushou strong?
They're not sniffing Bananji/ Akou level that's for sure
It is possible that Rakuakan is like a Rinko type in terms of being small but skilful, but I’m not there yet.

still early days but I’m thinking 86-91-96 for Rakuakan, 93-90-88 for Hakuoukou and Yoko will be 95 strength
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Haku'ou Koku and Yoko Yoko using Shin as their tenis ball was kinda funny, not gonna lie.

So those two are generals who specialize in encirclements? Thats an interesting direction. Still feels like bs that they were able to seperate all those armies this easily with number advantage that is this small.
I think Qin being so aggressive is what enabled the Han army to do this. They knew that Tou would aggressively come at them.

Had this war had a different set of variables or requirements and had Tou been more cautious, this tactic wouldn’t have been doable, certainly not as quick as this.
 
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