Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

@nik87 @comrade (sorry for long post, but it sounds way shorter to me when i say it compared to writing it lol)

Kaidou's Plan was Ruined by O-Tama, Kid & Momo (With Help of others ofc)
O-Tama Controlled his Special Army, Kid created a Cannon Weapon to Bury Big Mom & Momo Stopped Flying Onigashima,
These aren't Random, They are Mini Versions of Ancient Weapons

Oda just revealed to us why Ancient Weapons were Created,
Sea Kings were basically Smile Army of OG Villain, but a Mermaid succeeded in Controlling them somehow just like O-Tama took Control of Smile Army & also Bonney took Control of Pacifista

Uranus is when Someone somehow attained a Copy of OG Villain's Power, which He used to Reverse & Stop his Time Bomb whatever it was,
Finally, Pluton was only created to put down a Monster who is as Strong as OG Villain & send him down a Massive Hole (Enies Lobby?)

In other words, OG Villain Plan is Same as Kaidou, Rule with a Special Army, Summon a Monster, Re-Shape The World to his Liking,
(Which actually applies to so many Villains we've seen so far). If WG were Final Villains, their Army would be Sea Kings, not Attack of The Clones, and their O-Tama would be Shirahoshi, not Bonney!

Army of Beasts was Created for King of Beasts, Army of Clones was Created for King of Clones (That's why We have another Shanks & another Stussy & another Warlords ... etc), if Beasts Pirates were Themed after Beasts, WG are Themed after Clones,

So Final Villain is someone who is supposed to represent King of Sea Kings, who is King of Kings & Sea-Based? Obviously Sea God!
How was Sea God drawn in Fish-Man Island Arc? It was said that there was a Huge Storm when Sea God appeared & He was drawn as it,
So that's his Powers, it's about Storms & He tried to use it once to Re-Shape his Kingdom but was Stopped by "Same" Power

Well luckily Law did confirm this when He said that "D. will bring another Storm!", Another here indicates a Second One, however Law doesn't mean that D. will cause Two Storms, it actually means that D. will bring a "Counter" Storm to Sea God's

And what did i say above? Momo (The one who is supposed to rule Wano instead & was Leader of Rebellion attained that Power),
Don't we have a Guy with Storm-Related Powers who is Biggest Revolutionary Leader & is a D.? Yes it's Dragon, which further confirms that Final Villain is indeed Sea God
Mihawk's Case is very simple, being opposite of Zoro & looking Religious is only to further confirm my suspicions, but since the guy was Introduced as Zoro's Final Fight, so while Haters were trying to take away that Fight from him just because He looks like a Lone Wolf, i instead asked "What if He isn't actually alone?", if He is indeed Zoro's Final Fight, then his Superior should be Luffy's Final Fight

But 1000 Chapters later & Mihawk still takes Orders from no one, and He isn't Loyal to CDs nor does He serve a Kingdom, that's when i remembered his Cross & thought what if Mihawk is indeed Religious just like Kuma who was carrying a Bible & turned out to be indeed Religious, but all it took was one look at his Introduction Chapter & you'd see it

His Introduction Chapter is Titled "Storm" (Clearly referring to him), that's the only Confirmation you need that Mihawk is worshipper of Sea God, the same one that Zoro/Sanji questioned his Existence when a Lightning Bolt saved Luffy in Loguetown, same one who summoned a Storm that saved Roger Pirates from Shiki, same one who summoned a Storm to lead SHs to Drum Island, same one who summoned a Storm to lead SHs to Brook (He was even mentioned right before saying that Barrels at Sea are Offering to Sea God) ... etc

Luffy starting his Journey in a Barrel should be another Hint that his Final Destination is Sea God, it's also why D. are like Protected by Fate, They are Offerings to him, and you might ask why would that be? Didn't i just say that One among D. is his Biggest Enemy (Dragon)?

Well just like Smile Army were Mini-Sea Kings, what were those Punk Hazard Kids supposed to represent? Why include them at all? It's because just like Smile Army were like Fodder Kaidous, those Children were like Fodder Big Mom, so both Experiments represented the Two Villains

That means if We discover Sea God's Story Equivalent of those Children, We can know who is his Secondary Villain & who are Modern Version of it from where He could re-appear, and it's very easy, you know why? Because Momo ended up as one of those Children, except He didn't have their Blood, but that's the only Hint i need

Cuz if Dragon is New Rebel Leader, then who are this Group his Bloodline belongs to? It's none other than D. Members!
D. Members are important for Sea God because one of them could become his Secondary Villain, his Big Mom, his Oars, his Sea Devil,
And that's obvious who it is, and Corazon also confirmed this when He said that CDs scare their Children by saying that D. will come to eat you, meaning that One D. will indeed turn into a Monster
 
@nik87 @comrade (sorry for long post, but it sounds way shorter to me when i say it compared to writing it lol)

Kaidou's Plan was Ruined by O-Tama, Kid & Momo (With Help of others ofc)
O-Tama Controlled his Special Army, Kid created a Cannon Weapon to Bury Big Mom & Momo Stopped Flying Onigashima,
These aren't Random, They are Mini Versions of Ancient Weapons

Oda just revealed to us why Ancient Weapons were Created,
Sea Kings were basically Smile Army of OG Villain, but a Mermaid succeeded in Controlling them somehow just like O-Tama took Control of Smile Army & also Bonney took Control of Pacifista

Uranus is when Someone somehow attained a Copy of OG Villain's Power, which He used to Reverse & Stop his Time Bomb whatever it was,
Finally, Pluton was only created to put down a Monster who is as Strong as OG Villain & send him down a Massive Hole (Enies Lobby?)

In other words, OG Villain Plan is Same as Kaidou, Rule with a Special Army, Summon a Monster, Re-Shape The World to his Liking,
(Which actually applies to so many Villains we've seen so far). If WG were Final Villains, their Army would be Sea Kings, not Attack of The Clones, and their O-Tama would be Shirahoshi, not Bonney!

Army of Beasts was Created for King of Beasts, Army of Clones was Created for King of Clones (That's why We have another Shanks & another Stussy & another Warlords ... etc), if Beasts Pirates were Themed after Beasts, WG are Themed after Clones,

So Final Villain is someone who is supposed to represent King of Sea Kings, who is King of Kings & Sea-Based? Obviously Sea God!
How was Sea God drawn in Fish-Man Island Arc? It was said that there was a Huge Storm when Sea God appeared & He was drawn as it,
So that's his Powers, it's about Storms & He tried to use it once to Re-Shape his Kingdom but was Stopped by "Same" Power

Well luckily Law did confirm this when He said that "D. will bring another Storm!", Another here indicates a Second One, however Law doesn't mean that D. will cause Two Storms, it actually means that D. will bring a "Counter" Storm to Sea God's

And what did i say above? Momo (The one who is supposed to rule Wano instead & was Leader of Rebellion attained that Power),
Don't we have a Guy with Storm-Related Powers who is Biggest Revolutionary Leader & is a D.? Yes it's Dragon, which further confirms that Final Villain is indeed Sea God
Mihawk's Case is very simple, being opposite of Zoro & looking Religious is only to further confirm my suspicions, but since the guy was Introduced as Zoro's Final Fight, so while Haters were trying to take away that Fight from him just because He looks like a Lone Wolf, i instead asked "What if He isn't actually alone?", if He is indeed Zoro's Final Fight, then his Superior should be Luffy's Final Fight

But 1000 Chapters later & Mihawk still takes Orders from no one, and He isn't Loyal to CDs nor does He serve a Kingdom, that's when i remembered his Cross & thought what if Mihawk is indeed Religious just like Kuma who was carrying a Bible & turned out to be indeed Religious, but all it took was one look at his Introduction Chapter & you'd see it

His Introduction Chapter is Titled "Storm" (Clearly referring to him), that's the only Confirmation you need that Mihawk is worshipper of Sea God, the same one that Zoro/Sanji questioned his Existence when a Lightning Bolt saved Luffy in Loguetown, same one who summoned a Storm that saved Roger Pirates from Shiki, same one who summoned a Storm to lead SHs to Drum Island, same one who summoned a Storm to lead SHs to Brook (He was even mentioned right before saying that Barrels at Sea are Offering to Sea God) ... etc

Luffy starting his Journey in a Barrel should be another Hint that his Final Destination is Sea God, it's also why D. are like Protected by Fate, They are Offerings to him, and you might ask why would that be? Didn't i just say that One among D. is his Biggest Enemy (Dragon)?

Well just like Smile Army were Mini-Sea Kings, what were those Punk Hazard Kids supposed to represent? Why include them at all? It's because just like Smile Army were like Fodder Kaidous, those Children were like Fodder Big Mom, so both Experiments represented the Two Villains

That means if We discover Sea God's Story Equivalent of those Children, We can know who is his Secondary Villain & who are Modern Version of it from where He could re-appear, and it's very easy, you know why? Because Momo ended up as one of those Children, except He didn't have their Blood, but that's the only Hint i need

Cuz if Dragon is New Rebel Leader, then who are this Group his Bloodline belongs to? It's none other than D. Members!
D. Members are important for Sea God because one of them could become his Secondary Villain, his Big Mom, his Oars, his Sea Devil,
And that's obvious who it is, and Corazon also confirmed this when He said that CDs scare their Children by saying that D. will come to eat you, meaning that One D. will indeed turn into a Monster
Yo, the fact you can write this much and make so little sense
 

Yoho

✌𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓢𝓲𝓶𝓹𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓲𝓽𝔂 𝓸𝓯 𝓛𝓲𝓯𝓮✌
Also this chapter flat out proves admirals and gorosei > most if not all Holy Knights.

Literally 0 people look at a bandage paramecia and go “yeah that’s stronger than an admiral tier logia or an awakened mythical zoan” lol

Unless she’s hiding ACOC or something it’s over for the HKs outside of probably Pranks and 1 or 2 more
Maybe one or two of them maybe on that high to top tier echelon but Majority of them are likely pretty mid
 
Also this chapter flat out proves admirals and gorosei > most if not all Holy Knights.

Literally 0 people look at a bandage paramecia and go “yeah that’s stronger than an admiral tier logia or an awakened mythical zoan” lol

Unless she’s hiding ACOC or something it’s over for the HKs outside of probably Pranks and 1 or 2 more
Who even expected the Holy Knights to be above the Admirals and Gorosei lol. I think only one will be as strong as them (or straight up above the Admirals and maybe the weakest Gorosei like Peter and Mars).
 
Also this chapter flat out proves admirals and gorosei > most if not all Holy Knights.

Literally 0 people look at a bandage paramecia and go “yeah that’s stronger than an admiral tier logia or an awakened mythical zoan” lol

Unless she’s hiding ACOC or something it’s over for the HKs outside of probably Pranks and 1 or 2 more
Why did you think it was a possibility?
 
it’d be cool if all the emperors are not only trying to fight for the pirate king title but who is the “real sun god”

  1. Whitebeard like Doflamingo said he sat in front of the throne but never took it himself. Him likely being a buccaneer + what roger told him basically making him the the body guard for those unworthy
  2. Big mom bases on her being raised in elbaf as a child might want to straight up be the sun god. Her viewing him as a liberator and that being how she views herself
  3. Kaido learned about joyboy and might’ve known prior information on the sun god from being on rocks. Him wanting to be the sun god potentially viewing it in more of the destructive way
  4. Shanks potentially wanting to be the sun god but instead took up the role to find someone more worthy of the title
  5. Blackbeard deadass might have another sun god fruit with the yami. He and his fruit being more about destruction than liberation
  6. Luffy has the sun god fruit
  7. Buggy trying to maki it till you make it process maybe. Him probably doing things accidentally that make his crew believe he actually is the sun god
 
Also this chapter flat out proves admirals and gorosei > most if not all Holy Knights.

Literally 0 people look at a bandage paramecia and go “yeah that’s stronger than an admiral tier logia or an awakened mythical zoan” lol

Unless she’s hiding ACOC or something it’s over for the HKs outside of probably Pranks and 1 or 2 more
Shanks & garling >>kizaru & fuji & gb > rh hks
Other fodder
 
Imo World of One Piece have Two Scenarios, Two Sides of it,
One where Blackbeard is Victorious which is Current Scenario,
Luffy must turn World "Upside Down" to switch to other Scenario where He wins instead

So imo both BB Pirates & SH Pirates represent Roger Pirates
While Rocks Pirates are presented by their Greatest Rivals

In other words, in Scenario where BB Wins, He is Roger of this Era & Shanks is his Xebec
While Koby is Marine Hero who gained Fame thanks to Blackbeard's Conflict

And in Fixed Scenario, Luffy is New Roger instead, while Cross Guild are his Rocks
With Smoker being his Garp who gained Fame in Arabasta thanks to Luffy's Actions

One Piece means Two Sides of Same Coin
So for Everything, there are Two Answers with "Same Fate" but "Opposite Reasons"
Just like Fisher Tiger & Otohime for example

I'm explaining all this just so that Fans don't always Pick a Single Answer when trying to discover who Parallels who & who Replaces who, there are always "Two" Answers. Currently Luffy is Living in the "Bad" Scenario, the "Bad" Dream, and who's the Dreamer? Obviously the Guy who Never Slept
This whole Duality revealed in this Chapter, People arguing on whether Sun God is Evil or Good, and World Destroyed Twice ... etc
I addressed this before, it's clear that it's a Story about Luffy vs Blackbeard (Just like Nightmare Luffy vs Zombie Oars),

Final Villain (Moria of Story) is simply the guy rooting for Blackbeard, while Shanks (Brook of Story) is the guy rooting for Luffy,
Imu is just World Perona, She isn't more Important than Shanks or Blackbeard or Final Villain or even Mihawk (Zombie Ryuma of Story),
I won't be Surprised if her Powers allows her to Defeat anyone but She ends up Usopp's Victim just like Perona, Sugar & Baccaret
 
This whole Duality revealed in this Chapter, People arguing on whether Sun God is Evil or Good, and World Destroyed Twice ... etc
I addressed this before, it's clear that it's a Story about Luffy vs Blackbeard (Just like Nightmare Luffy vs Zombie Oars),

Final Villain (Moria of Story) is simply the guy rooting for Blackbeard, while Shanks (Brook of Story) is the guy rooting for Luffy,
Imu is just World Perona, She isn't more Important than Shanks or Blackbeard or Final Villain or even Mihawk (Zombie Ryuma of Story),
I won't be Surprised if her Powers allows her to Defeat anyone but She ends up Usopp's Victim just like Perona, Sugar & Baccaret
I think turning the world upside down has to do with Nika and Imu, because it has a lot of christian parallels and in Acts 17:6 the apostles were complained about as people who turn the world upside down, Imu is the god of the world, their throne room is called hell, and hell is at the top of the world, that situation will be turned upside down
 
Shanks: Kamusari!
Zoro:

:myman:
If He clashes with Loki, i'm hyped to see Upgraded Gorilla Zake against that Hammer,
If He clashes with that Girl, He'd probably use Upgraded Karasuma Gari to counter her multiple Bandages,
If He clashes with Shanks, i expect an Upgraded Taka Nami to remove his Cloak followed by Upgraded Gyuki Yuzume to clash with him
If He ends up needing to Free Loki himself, He might use Upgraded Pound Ho or Upgraded Daibutsu Giri

These are possibilities i see, and whatever it is, it's gonna be dope
 
Notice how as soon as Luffy states how excited he is to see Saint Shanks, Zoro chides Luffy saying this is why Luffy easy to manipulate. Lol

Oda can’t spoon feed this to you guys any harder.

Oda would not have Loki call Saint Shanks a coward for no reason. Oda is introducing the idea to both Luffy and the reader that Saint Shanks is not who we think he is. If Oda didn’t want to introduce this idea, he never would have had Loki say it.

Then Saint Shanks literally gets summoned by a fucking demonic circle and this fandom fucking thinks it’s a clone or an identical twin
:doffytroll::doffytroll::doffytroll:

Then Oda sets up the idea that Loki is actually a good guy through his conversation with Mosa.

And now Oda deliberately has Zoro chide Luffy for being easy to manipulate when Luffy gets excited to see Saint Shanks.

My guys. How long are you going to pretend to be retarded? Oda is literally setting up the subversion of Saint Shanks being a Holy Knight lmfao. I mean what do yall think is going to happen?

Loki called Saint Shanks a coward for no reason and actually Saint Shanks isn’t a fucking coward at all?
:doffytroll::doffytroll::doffytroll:

Saint Shanks is actually an identical triplet and Loki was just confused because Saint Saint Shanks’ triplets were actually the cowards all along?
:doffytroll::doffytroll::doffytroll:

Zoro sets up Luffy’s idolization of Saint Shanks as making him easy to manipulate, but just fucking kidding because the triplet was evil all along and Luffy’s weird ass attraction to a guy he knew for 20 minutes is completely fine, actually?
:doffytroll::doffytroll::doffytroll:

I don’t know how to be nice in explaining this to you guys lmfao. My little munchkins, Evil Saint Shanks is being reinforced with literally every passing chapter. Why do you guys think Oda is setting up this idea that Saint Shanks isn’t who Luffy thinks he is just to reveal it was a fucking twin all along? What narrative purpose would that serve?
:doffytroll:

Saint Shanks being a triplet would be so fucking pointless I can’t believe this shit has gained any traction at all lmfao. Repent
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