Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

DAMN I hate to admit it but Mihawk fans won out HARD this chapter.

Just like Kaido immediately being demoted to the world's second strongest beast after making the fatal mistake of wielding a sword (to execute orochi), Nika made the common mistake of choosing to be a swordsman, therefore automatically making him weaker than Mihawk

 
Honestly very idk on stabs
There’s 3 main possibilities imo
  1. Represents how strong shanks was 12+ years ago when he had 2 arms but just a billion berry bounty
  2. Represents shanks current strength with them being more or less equal. Stabs probably has more special powers but doesn’t stop shanks from being just as strong
    • Same way wci sanji was comparable if not stronger than his brothers. Lowkey if like sanji shanks gets access to their power somehow to get even stronger I wouldn’t be upset
  3. Represents a prime shanks and how strong he could have been at full potential
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I won't be Surprised if her Powers allows her to Defeat anyone but She ends up Usopp's Victim just like Perona, Sugar & Baccaret
It would ruin Imu's image way too much if Usopp straight up beats her himself but I have been supporting the idea that Usopp will play a crucial role against Imu. My theory was that Imu is a god of fear and feeds off of it like Moriah feeds on shadows or Big Mom feeds on shadows, all of them growing stronger from it...
Basically, as long as there are people on the battlefield who fear Imu, her powers are near infinite and if Usopp wills into existence the embodiment of Bravery, he could end up with ability like superior version Belo Betty's power, boosting the morale of the troops and people would stop fearing Imu, bringing her down to her actual power level.
You do have a point with Usopp being the one who takes out those with broken hax powers and they happen to be female characters...

If He clashes with Loki, i'm hyped to see Upgraded Gorilla Zake against that Hammer,
If He clashes with that Girl, He'd probably use Upgraded Karasuma Gari to counter her multiple Bandages,
If He clashes with Shanks, i expect an Upgraded Taka Nami to remove his Cloak followed by Upgraded Gyuki Yuzume to clash with him
If He ends up needing to Free Loki himself, He might use Upgraded Pound Ho or Upgraded Daibutsu Giri

These are possibilities i see, and whatever it is, it's gonna be dope
I thought about this thing yesterday, if Zoro and Loki clash, Loki might overpower him with the hammer, if he doesn't use aCoC.
Even with aCoC, Loki's hammer might not be a thing one approaches by blocking...
The options are certainly interesting in the Underworld.

So this is how Oda will put Luffy and Zoro at Shanks level but still save Shanks from being defeated.
Luffy beats Bhanks?
Zoro gets compared to Shanks by Loki?
Pretty much, Pranks exist to do things that Oda doesn't wanna do to Shanks.
They are probably around the same power level with same type of abilities and combat style.
So, portrayal-wise, whoever beats Pranks can be considered stronger than Shanks as well.

Also, I doubt Luffy vs Pranks, the man is a swordsman after all. I simply cant picture Luffy beating a swordsman.
Unless Pranks forgets that he is a swordsman in Luffy's presence. :shame:
I think Pranks will WIFI-diff Luffy, making use of the Luffy's naivety and being off guard when he sees Shanks-like figure.
That is if Zoro doesn't step in to protect him, which in this case I would forgive Zori for not doing. :risiup:
Zoro vs Pranks is more likely, IMO while Luffy will end up facing Loki, when he wakes up from the WIFI-diff...
 
Honestly very idk on stabs
There’s 3 main possibilities imo
  1. Represents how strong shanks was 12+ years ago when he had 2 arms but just a billion berry bounty
  2. Represents shanks current strength with them being more or less equal. Stabs probably has more special powers but doesn’t stop shanks from being just as strong
    • Same way wci sanji was comparable if not stronger than his brothers. Lowkey if like sanji shanks gets access to their power somehow to get even stronger I wouldn’t be upset
  3. Represents a prime shanks and how strong he could have been at full potential
HHHaha this fukr Albino is a secretly lanji stan
Imagine putting Shanks n Sanji together

A mutant vs a swordsman 🤣🤣🤣
 
Luffy could sense Loki
But the knights weren't tracked by anyone
Either Oda bugged the story or these people aren't human
holy knights confirmed giga jobbers already, cant even be detected by the monster trio's CoO
LOKI-SAMA PLEASE WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN US, a 6 years ago shanks victim (who himself was a previously a fruitless blackbeard victim)
Over
- Any of the leftover YC
- Any of the warlords (mihawk, weevil who was compared to primebeard for some reason, Buggy who the WG perceives very highly, Boa the one shotter etc.)
- Kid, Law were never approached
- Marco
 
Also this chapter flat out proves admirals and gorosei > most if not all Holy Knights.

Literally 0 people look at a bandage paramecia and go “yeah that’s stronger than an admiral tier logia or an awakened mythical zoan” lol

Unless she’s hiding ACOC or something it’s over for the HKs outside of probably Pranks and 1 or 2 more
It's very stupid that HKs are literally battling using their abilities and nobody is sensing them.
COO gotta be the most inconsistent ability in the series since it works solely when the plot is asking for it
Kizaru arrives on Egghead=Luffy sensing his powerful presence

Saturn summons himself to Egghead=Luffy, Kizaru, and everyone else sensing his powerful presence

Two Holy Knights one of them being Pranks summons themselves to Elbaf=Nothing

With the exception to Garling who is now a Gorosei and maybe Pranks, the Holy Knights were never going to be on the same level as an Admiral or a Gorosei.

Heck in terms of hierarchy, the Holy Knights are below the Five Elders.

Just like how the Tobi Roppo/Veterans were below the Calamities/Sweet Commanders.
 
It would ruin Imu's image way too much if Usopp straight up beats her himself but I have been supporting the idea that Usopp will play a crucial role against Imu. My theory was that Imu is a god of fear and feeds off of it like Moriah feeds on shadows or Big Mom feeds on shadows, all of them growing stronger from it...
Basically, as long as there are people on the battlefield who fear Imu, her powers are near infinite and if Usopp wills into existence the embodiment of Bravery, he could end up with ability like superior version Belo Betty's power, boosting the morale of the troops and people would stop fearing Imu, bringing her down to her actual power level.
You do have a point with Usopp being the one who takes out those with broken hax powers and they happen to be female characters...
Totally agree, i also think Imu operate similarly, but i doubt it's Bravery, We already had that with Big Mom,
Big Mom was Taxing People's Souls, She was basically taking portion of their Power/Will & being Fearless is what counters that,

We already know Imu's Tax as Ruler of WG, it's Heavenly Tribute, so instead of taking people's representation of power, She is taking wealth instead, so that means She is feeding on something that is generated from what people treasure, and that's "Desires"

Big Mom's Tax worked based on Fear, We've already seen Imu punish Lulusia before & what did they do? Betrayal,
That means Imu's Condition is Betrayal imo, this could have also been hinted by Saturn's Death, his Betrayal (Hiding something important from her) is what led to his immediate punishment

This Theory is further supported by those 16 Lasers & how WG are related to Number 16 in General,
According to Scientific Study, there are 16 Basic Desires, it adds up,

And if Big Mom used Souls to create Homies, then it's possible that these Desires are being used to create DFs, something that Vegapunk did confirm

So imo it's somehow "Loyalty" that can defeat Imu,
 
HHHaha this fukr Albino is a secretly lanji stan
Imagine putting Shanks n Sanji together

A mutant vs a swordsman 🤣🤣🤣
Unironically there are some similarities between Sanji and Shanks
There obviously different characters but still it’s interesting
  1. Secret noble raised by pirates
  2. Both of them basically copied their father’s fighting style
  3. Twin brothers
  4. Fathers into science
  5. Probably other things

“Early Concepts
One Piece Magazine Vol.3 revealed several early design sketches for Judge. In one of these, it was shown that his original name was Saint-Germain (サンジェルマン, Sanjeruman?) and he had the epithet "Count Karakuri" (からくり伯爵, Karakuri Hakushaku?).”
 
It's very stupid that HKs are literally battling using their abilities and nobody is sensing them.
COO gotta be the most inconsistent ability in the series since it works solely when the plot is asking for it
It was Odd that nobody sensed them when they arrived via there teleportation in the castle,Sh‘s are almost next to the castle last chapter
 
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