Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

[EmperorKinyagi]

Kizaru vs Katakuri stat breakdown:

Strength: Kizaru
Speed: Kizaru
Durability: Kizaru
AP: Kizaru
DC: Kizaru
Combat Skill: Kizaru
FSIQ: Kizaru
Battle IQ and Combat Experience: Kizaru
Versatility: Kizaru
Weapons: Kizaru
Better Hax: Kizaru
Potential/Unseen Abilities: Kizaru
Armament Haki: Kizaru
Conqueror’s Haki: Irrelevant Unless Mid Fight PU
Observation Haki: Katakuri
Match-up Advantage: Kizaru

The KOL video is literally him talking about the COO advantage and giving Katakuri the win

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Kat is honorary Admiral due to Logia-like fruit and chad-tier personality

They rather jump on that helltrain with Jndle than admit Yonko > Admiral under any circumstance

Not sure Yonko > Admiral or maybe slightly.
They're still in the same ballpark imo

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Of course, that's why you're spamming emojis again to hide for triggered you are over the fact that you got babyshaked from me on so many levels, you started bitching around, lol. List of excuses? Such as??? Mihawk? Hey, it's not my fault he has terrible anti feats, lol.

Ah yes, it was me pointing out the fallacy in your argument and came up with an analogy to demonstrate how stupid your logic is. I even went a step beyond further and came up with an actual no named attack of Akainu which killed Ace. Then you went completely mad.

blud, you got embarrassed so hard you started changing topic from Kaido to Mihawk and that makes you a loser who couldn't handle the topic being Deskainu and Kaido and you trynna bringing Mihawk to feel safe in this debate lmao

Did he kill ace in a confrontation or he just jumped to save Luffy like how Garp did against Shiryu?
Yet you all call him a sneak or whatever while trashing his feat yet deskainu did it in a similar way albeit not being on purpose like shiryu

Bold and red just confirms how much of a hypocrite you are, lol.
You say you don't give a shit about Kaido failing to kill a 1 HP character significantly weaker than Luffy whilst coming up with Akainu who failed to kill 1 HP OG Warlord - who is still stronger than Kinemon btw - even though, unlike Kaido, he didn't hit vital points. The absolute state of your mind, I can't imagine...

Idk, did base Kaido succeed in killing 1 HP Kinemon, who was weaker than 1 HP Kuma, with an ACoC blow or not?

I compare 2 Feats where 2 characters were shown their named attacks which confirms they are taking things seriously and they are fighting for real

VS

You bringing Kinemon / Curiel / or whatever you have in your mind where characters just swing and that's it and no named attacks were used which is funny.

That just shows you have no arguments, well that's evident since you brought Mihawk

 

[The DevilMaster]

@comrade @MonsterKaido @The DevilMasterFraudtora thought Dressrosa Luffy had the strength to fight him, and he used his utmost to uphold his standing yet he couldn't beat Dressrosa Gear 2sd,3rd Luffy :

Base Kaido one shotted a stronger Luffy in a stronger form :

People are familiar with DC (Destructive Capacity) and AOE (Area of Effect). When an attack doesn't meet their expectations in those aspects, they already consider it a weak attack and classify attacks with the former characteristics as superior. They get obsessed with destruction.

For example:

Katakuri's final attack:

Spoiler: 1º

Fujitora's furious "Ranging Tiger," which blew up a massive block behind him and has significant AOE.

Spoiler: 2º

Garp and his Galaxy Impact attack, which fodder characters managed to survive:

Spoiler: 3º

Garp vs Avalo Pizarro

Spoiler: 4º

And there are many more examples throughout the manga, plenty more, and people get fascinated and all hyped about these attacks. However, they are NOT stronger than a Thunder Bagua from base Kaido that knocked out Luffy in one hit.

All of Luffy's attacks on Doflamingo in Gear 4, every single one of them, are weaker than a Thunder Bagua from base Kaido. The whole thing of sending Doffy flying to the center of the city, destroying buildings in the process—all of that is weaker than base Kaido's Thunder Bagua, which doesn’t have impressive DC or AOE.

 

[Sentinel]

So Shiryu heavily injured Garp > Midkiji who didn't wound Garp heavily

???

A Yamato who didn't use DF and adv CoC?

Put a Jimbei who was on overweight? on Land where he was nerfed? why didn't fail against 1 HP, Brain dead and heavily injured Kuma whose reaction speed should have dropped enormously in one attack yet Kaido succeded against a stronger one ?

You know Yamato didn't have seacuffs on? Otherwise Luffy wouldn't even be able to touch them in the first place when destroying the same cuffs with ID Haki, lol.

Already coming up with the next excuse. So now Jinbei was automatically nerfed for fighting on land.
Yes, Jinbei is stronger in water but guess what, Land Jinbei is still strong enough to smoke someone like WW in a battle. If Akainu didn't fail, there would be no longer a Kuma bruh. That's the whole point... Also, Land Jinbei >> 1 HP braindead, tortured Kuma, so your point is moot.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Katakuri would be a tough fight for Zoro though based on Egghead tbh

 

[DarkWitch]

Akainu made Kuma and Blackbeard Pirates run in fear from just existing, meanwhile some top 1 swordsman can't even intimidate WB's YC4

@Fleet Leader Fenaker fucking clown

Kuma and Blackbeard Pirates: "Oh fuck it's Akainu! We need to get out of here! We can't fight him!"

Meanwhile Mihawk who is fighting Vista: "Let us postpone this match for the moment Vista."

Vista: "That would seem to be most advantageous to both of us."

 

[[No Name]]

Mihawk said he'd be fool to not have heard of Vista, suggesting that he respects his strenght :

Yup, he earlier mentioned he doesn't remember the name of the insects he crushes then proceeds to say oh you are Daz bones and needing a second blow for him.
Comparable to Shanks they say

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Akainu made Kuma and Blackbeard Pirates run in fear from just existing, meanwhile some top 1 swordsman can't even intimidate WB's YC4

@Fleet Leader Fenaker fucking clown

Hey not every Warlord can have Crocodiles balls. Bro had no fear squaring up to him

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The funniest part about the KOL video is he says future sight counters speed, and while that’s not wrong, Luffy literally needed A FASTER FORM to win the fight (so speed can counter FS too if there’s a gap).

Wizaru has the matchup advantage in every sense, like I’d fucking expect Katakuri to lose a chess match against him

Kuri gimmick got even more easy for Kizaru after Egghead even if I were to gift Kuri speed similar to Kizaru. spam light clones and orbital kick him while he's busy dodging/destroying them as he can't afford to ignore them due to their lethality and we know Kuri's FS can get overwhelmed when having to deal with too many stuff at once, like Caesar getting him while he was fighting the Vinsmoke in the cover sotry.

The light clones are fucking broken the more I think about it considering Kizaru himself is a pain you have to fully focus on. Luffy was lucky Kizaru wasn't interested in defeating him when he used them.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Kuzan downplayers, does the fact that Kizaru’s Egghead performance (while nerfed) is infinitely better than Kuzan’s Hachinosu performance despite Kuzan having more plot significance not give you any pause at all

Like if anyone genuinely believes the pinnacle of Kuzan’s arsenal is a nameless punch with Ice Glove you are going to get cooked

 

[[No Name]]

WG didn't give a fuck about losing Mihawk after the warlorlds disbanded, Oda never drew a scene of them lamenting how much of a loss he was unlike with Kuzan

Did u take this argument from me? I am glad.

Add how Kaido says that WG isn't fool but sure of their new strength and add that Mihawk first said "I am excited to be chased" than he decided to quit his house while Weevil defeated all the marines receiving better portray than the fraud.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Why would any of this being trul impressive for katakuri when that version of luffys snake man was weaker in stats than the base luffy that fought kaido on the roof.??

Dude needed ovens help and awakening against 2 of the Germa

Besides Kat having a high diff fight with oven right now!!!

The ones who captured the Germa were Big Mom, not Katakuri and his siblings. This is shown in the cover story report.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I wouldn’t even be surprised if Kuzan still has multiple full fights left in the story.

 

[S.W317]

Doffy recruited to HK is much better then CG ngl

There is a nice smell here

I can smell it and it is sooo nostalgic

Ahhhhh, it reminds me of Mom’s cooking and it just brings me to tears

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Did u take this argument from me? I am glad.

Add how Kaido says that WG isn't fool but sure of their new strength and add that Mihawk first said "I am excited to be chased" than he decided to quit his house while Weevil defeated all the marines receiving better portray than the fraud.

They actually had to call an admiral to get rid of Weevil alone, meanwhile Mihawk was kicked out of his home by some vice admiral and now is hiding in Buggy organizaiton lmao

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Nerfed Kizaru literally had (at worst) a tie round with Gear 5 (even though it’s trivial to argue he won).

And people think Kuzan showed his full power on Hachinosu. It’s actual brain rot

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I wouldn’t even be surprised if Kuzan still has multiple full fights left in the story.

Why you think I'm comfortable slandering Wuzan? In a few years everyone will accept he could have mid diffed the old fool

 

[DarkWitch]

Kizaru vs Katakuri stat breakdown:

Strength: Kizaru
Speed: Kizaru
Durability: Kizaru
AP: Kizaru
DC: Kizaru
Combat Skill: Kizaru
FSIQ: Kizaru
Battle IQ and Combat Experience: Kizaru
Versatility: Kizaru
Weapons: Kizaru
Better Hax: Kizaru
Potential/Unseen Abilities: Kizaru
Armament Haki: Kizaru
Conqueror’s Haki: Irrelevant Unless Mid Fight PU
Observation Haki: Katakuri
Match-up Advantage: Kizaru

The KOL video is literally him talking about the COO advantage and giving Katakuri the win

KOL acts like he is a power level expert, but in reality he is a power level clown.

He has so much extreme bias agenda.

Man thinks the Holy Knights are top tiers, and in his top 30, he put Garling over Akainu.

Lol he is a joke.

Don't get me wrong, other OP Youtubers have some horrible power level takes as well, but KOL is top tier when it comes to horrible power level takes.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

???

What? that's your analogy :
Deskainu killed ace > Kaido didn't kill Post WCI Luffy

So Shiryu heavily injured Garp > Midkiji who didn't wound Garp heavily

You know Yamato didn't have seacuffs on? Otherwise Luffy wouldn't even be able to touch them in the first place when destroying the same cuffs with ID Haki, lol.

Did I mention any seacuffs? i said she didn't use adv CoC and her DF, you seem to hallucinate or something

Already coming up with the next excuse. So now Jinbei was automatically nerfed for fighting on land.

Jimbei to Luffy :
I hope I can be a bit of help on Land

+ Jimbei carrying Luffy = deadweight

You :
excuses

While the panels you posted have all these things which is funny

Yes, Jinbei is stronger in water but guess what, Land Jinbei is still strong enough to smoke someone like WW in a battle. If Akainu didn't fail, there would be no longer a Kuma bruh. That's the whole point... Also, Land Jinbei >> 1 HP braindead, tortured Kuma, so your point is moot.

Jimbei was pushed to upper mid diff and needed to use his Ougi Technique and that wouldn't mean he was Jack level on Land since there's no proof of that + carrying a dead weight.

1 HP braindead, tortured Kuma > Landbei carrying a dead weight on one hand