Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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Even then he left the lvl 6 prisoners in which were only freed due to teach.

Crocodiles goals weren't to eradicate million jut cause he was searching for the ancient weapon. With knowledge and greater causes saifices are essential
 
So Deskainu couldn't finish off a 1 HP Kuma who was heavily injured and tortured thus his reaction speed dropped enormously?
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Just like Kaido couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time



Instilled fear? lmao Kuma was already running yet he got stopped until Deskainu came trynna finishing him off yet he failed :choppawhat:
Kaido couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time



So Deskainu couldn't finish off a 1 HP Kuma who was heavily injured and tortured thus his reaction speed dropped enormously?
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Why Kaido couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time?



Why are you showing me a Dragon Kaido bozo?
Why not show me Base and Hybrid Kaido which is his combat form that he uses to clash and fight?
Wasn't Kaido using his dragon form against scabbards but when he wanted things to get finished off he used his base form?
Dragon Kaido is Kaido, dipshit, he even used that form to avoid G4 barrage and for his final clash with Luffy, switching from hybrid.
You started bringing stuff like "named attacks" and what did Kaido use against Momo? A named attack. That Momo dodged.
You're finished, it's over.



Base Kaido one shotted a Healthy Luffy who's stronger than 1 HP Kuma with one attack.
Yet he still couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time with a named attack

Your deskainu being above Shanks and on WB level ain't gonna protect you since his fraud ass is getting exposed hard
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Just like your deflections won't change the fact that Vista ended Pisshawk career forever but keep barking like the tormented dog you are lmao.
 
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All I did is stating facts in which admirals tards refuse :
Kaido > Akainu

Deskainu failed at beating 1 HP heavily injured, brain dead and tortured Kuma after using a named attack

VS

Base Kaido one shotted a Healthy Luffy who's stronger than 1 HP Kuma with one attack.
And they are associating Kuma's desire to travel somewhere with: "Fear of Akainu", the guy has lost all his will and mind, his every move is RANDOM...

TB of the base Kaidou would have BLITZ kuma and left him knocked out on the ground
 
People are familiar with DC (Destructive Capacity) and AOE (Area of Effect). When an attack doesn't meet their expectations in those aspects, they already consider it a weak attack and classify attacks with the former characteristics as superior. They get obsessed with destruction.

For example:

Katakuri's final attack:

Fujitora's furious "Ranging Tiger," which blew up a massive block behind him and has significant AOE.
Garp and his Galaxy Impact attack, which fodder characters managed to survive:

Garp vs Avalo Pizarro

And there are many more examples throughout the manga, plenty more, and people get fascinated and all hyped about these attacks. However, they are NOT stronger than a Thunder Bagua from base Kaido that knocked out Luffy in one hit.

All of Luffy's attacks on Doflamingo in Gear 4, every single one of them, are weaker than a Thunder Bagua from base Kaido. The whole thing of sending Doffy flying to the center of the city, destroying buildings in the process—all of that is weaker than base Kaido's Thunder Bagua, which doesn’t have impressive DC or AOE.


I think its debatable.

As we saw, that Gear 3 with Roc, where able to clash Kaido's club many times.

And we didnt see, If I aint wrong a clash between a TB with Kong Gun
 
Why the assumption that current Snakeman and WCI Snakeman have comparable combat speed?

When did Luffy's physical stats stop growing? Post timeskip?

Does Dresrossa G2 Luffy and post 1026 G2 Luffy have same physical stats then?
Pre GK Doflamingo treated G2 Luffy's combat speed as a joke, dodged every single attack from G2 Luffy's gataling (G2's fastest attack).

While drunken Kaido was getting tagged several times by post 1026 G2 Luffy (in before you bring up future sight, that doesn't make you attack faster, it just improves precision).
Is fresh Doflamingo just a God in combat speed, or did Luffy's combat speed just significantly improve?

Obvious answer is that Strawhats keep growing from island to island as stated earlier in the series, every tough fight and training improves their power level - in both haki and physical stats.
This is why hakiless trash like SH mid trio ended up beating Tobiroppo, while Tobiroppo are comparable to Vergo who would destroy out of timeskip mid trio.

Mmm yes, Doffy is damn fast, treated Sanji, a speedblitzer as a Joke.

Luffy indeed does get faster, yet even pre udon Luffy was hitting Kaido with ease using Gear 4th
 
Just like Kaido couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time
Oh, you posted his zoan form which isn't his form of combat?

Why don't try to post his combat form being base and Hybrid Form ?
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Kaido couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time
Admirals fans can't bring feats of Kaido in his combat form instead they trynna use his Zoan form since deskainu failed hard.
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Dragon Kaido is Kaido, dipshit, he even used that form to avoid G4 barrage and for his final clash with Luffy
You started bringing stuff like "named attacks" and what did Kaido use against Momo? A named attack. That Momo dodged.
You're finished, it's over.
Dragon Kaido is Zoan form you admiral wanker, I like how you brought his Zoan Form which wasn't used when he started fighting for real against Luffy in Kuri when he started fighting for real against 5 RT Supernovas etc etc ..

Yeah, you are finished since i embrassed the Fuck outta you when i exposed Deskainu in his top form failing to beat 1 HP Heavily injured and tortured Kuma yet Base Kaido did easily against Luffy who was stronger than this version of Kuma.
:kayneshrug:
Yet he still couldn't tag a kid who just got turned into an adult and was controlling his oversized dragon form for the first time with a named attack
Zoan Form Kaido :tchpepe:

Just like your deflections won't change the fact that Vista ruined Pisshawk career forever lmao.
Just like your deflections by choosing Zoan Form won't change the fact a combat suited form from Kaido bodied Luffy in one attack while Deskainu failed hard in that against a weak ass mf in his last HP.
 

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You´re ignoring the fact that Luffy has a form of morality. He knows that Crocodile trying to destroy Alabasta was bad, and Crocodile had zero regrets.
who said i forgot, that wasn't even the discussion hahaha

He's a pirate first and foremost but his goal was for a greater cause so once again working with a strong ally you are familiar with moreover that you can keep in check is beneficial to luffy.
 
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