Character Discussion The CoC Comeback Kidd: Pranks is Kidd's Dad, Shanks is Strongest Yonkou, and Loki joins the Kidd Pirates

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TLDR: Luffy and Kidd had the same experiences upon 1v1ing a Yonkou. Luffy got wrecked by Kaido in Wano shortly after arriving, while Kidd got wrecked before even entering Elbaph by Shanks. This shows Shanks' superiority over the other Yonkou, since Kaido let Luffy enter his territory, and defeat his troops, while Shanks prevented any losses on his side. Similarly, Linlin couldn't knock out Kidd while he was crippled by Hawkins' Fruit, while Shanks one-shot Kidd.

Shanks' victory over Kidd isn't supposed to make Kidd look weak, but prove that Shanks is far above Kaido and Linlin in strength.

After losing 1v1, Luffy was imprisoned. After losing 1v1, Kidd will be imprisoned. Luffy had to developed Adv Armament against a Yonkou-tier fighter while imprisoned (Linlin in the Udon Mine).

Kidd will develop Adv CoC while fighting a top-tier with Adv CoC in Elbaph (I'd bet money on Loki, but Pranks, Luffy, Zoro, and even Shiki are possibilities here).

Kidd's home island, Kutsukku, is a lawless area. His mother was impregnated by Garling or Pranks, and the island destroyed once they failed to pay the Royal Tribute. Kidd will team up with Loki and Bonney, as Pranks is attacking Elbaph, and Bonney's life was destroyed by either Garling/Pranks most likely with them kidnapping Ginny.

Pranks is Kidd's ultimate enemy, Shanks is a placeholder, and the reason Kidd intrinsically hates Shanks is because he looks like the guy who destroyed his Mom/Island/Life.

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The similarities between Luffy entering Wano and Kidd entering Elbaph are many.

-Both entered an island teased through the story without much knowledge on it
-Both encountered a Yonkou soon after reaching the island
-In both cases the Yonkou was drinking when this occurred
-Both got one-shot by the Yonkou the moment they became serious
-Both Luffy and Kidd were warned by their direct allies not to engage (Law and Killer)
-Both Yonkou attempted to neutralize the crew after (Shanks knocks out Killer then Dorry and Brogy destroy the ship; Kaido tried to Boro Breath Oden Castle to kill Luffy's crew
-Both countries require the use of weird vertical sailing routes to reach them (Wano with the waterfalls, Elbaph requires Rainbow bridges to enter the Land of the Sun above the Land of the Dead).
-Both countries are isolationist countries with murdered rulers who wanted to open the country to the world (Harald wanted Elbaph to stop fighting wars and establish trade with the world instead, while Oden wanted to open the Borders of Wano and illegally fled the country)
-Both countries feature "bad" children of beloved rulers (Loki with Harald and Oden with Sukiyaki), who go out to sea and challenge Yonkou to fights only to lose horribly (Oden fought Roger and got ass-handled, Loki fought Shanks and got ass-handled)
-Both Luffy and Kidd were coming off of Yonkou-level status due to "defeating" a Yonkou they never actually defeated (Luffy never really fought Big Mom, just clashed, and Kidd and Law didn't even manage to kill Linlin, just knock her down to the depths of Wano)

Kidd is not-supposed to be shown as weak when losing to Shanks, just as Luffy was not meant to be shown as weak. Kidd would have destroyed the entire fleet Shanks was using as a shield, and Kaido took a ton of attacks where he was easily physically displaced, before one-shotting Luffy due to massive difference in Haki levels.

1.5 Billion Luffy was one-shot by Kaido; 3 Billion Kidd was one-shot by Shanks. So, Shanks should be around twice as strong as a normal Yonkou. This makes sense, as he was able to stop Kaido and King from entering Marineford (and since Shanks' subordinate crews are weak, we know it was just the Red-Haired Pirates), and Linlin couldn't take out a gimped-Kidd suffering from Hawkins' damaging him.

This is why Kaido stated that Haki surpasses all: because he knows from Roger and Shanks what true-top-tier Haki is. This is also why Kaido never bothered to go after the WG, and wanted the Ancient Weapons; no way Kaido doesn't know who Garling and Pranks are, especially considering how God Valley went down. Kaido ALSO knows that Luffy is Shanks' protege from the Hat, which is why Luffy intrigued him so much; Kaido wanted to see if Luffy lived up to Shanks' expectations.

After Ace fucked up Onigashima, I believe Kaido WANTED to recruit Ace. I mean, fuck, LOOK AT THE NAME. IT'S RIGHT THERE.

Ace is the most important card in many decks/card games... and Kaido just, doesn't have one? BS. Ace WAS supposed to be Kaido's "Ace". Kaido WANTED Ace to be his subordinate, that's why he went to Marineford; not to die, but to recruit Roger's son. KAIDO WANTED ACE TO BE THE PIRATE KING.

This is why there is no "Ace" in Kaido's crew: the Ace was meant to be the person who surpassed Kaido and took over the Beast Pirates, became the Pirate King, and defeated Kaido's hated enemies, the Celestial Dragons in the final war, Ragnarok.

After Ace died, Kaido became a depressive, self-destructive wreck. I believe at this point, Yamato became Kaido's "Ace", hence Kaido wanting Yamato to become the Shogun of Wano. Kaido accepted he couldn't become Pirate King, and wanted to set up the next one.

Ace was Kaido's first option; the name fits his crew perfectly, and Kaido knew from Roger how powerful his son could be.

After Ace died, Kaido (ironically, considering Yamato's friendship with Ace), Kaido turned to Yamato as his "Ace", which also fits, as Ace was friends with, who? The Oni, Oars Jr.

I believe Shanks told Kaido that Luffy, not Ace, would become the King of the Pirates, and that Luffy reminded Shanks of Roger. We know that Kaido has begrudging respect for Roger and Shanks, so, these words WOULD mean a lot to him. Kaido and King could have probably out-flown Shanks's crew, but then would have had to deal with a pincer attack from the Red-Haired Pirates being behind them when they attacked Marineford.

While Luffy developed Adv CoA in Udon's Mines against Linlin, it was only against Kaido he developed Adv CoC, ie CoC Coating.

BUT, IMO, we already have proof that Kidd has Adv CoA/Ryuo: we see this when the Punk Corna Dio bull hits her. If you re-read 1038-1039, you'll notice that Law's attack hits Linlin's arm and head, but not her chest.



After Law's attack, Big Mom's arm is still intact, as we can see in the pages with Punk Conra Dio:



Kidd's bull is what breaks her arm and ribs:



Even with Law's attack weakening her body, Linlin has been shown to have a CoC barrier not even Kaido has pierced. NOTHING has successfully damaged Big Mom's exterior.

Even if Law had weakened her bones, they clearly weren't broken until Kidd's Punk Conra Dio hit her. Meaning?

Kidd must be able to do internal damage to Linlin to pass her CoC barrier/skin.

Meaning?

Kidd must have Ryuo, the Armament Ability to damage the insides of your opponents with Haki. IE, Kidd has advanced CoA... he just needs Adv CoC.

Like Luffy in Wano, Kidd is now imprisoned in Elbaph for the crime of trying to kill a Yonkou associated with the region. We know from Elbaph that these matters are settled by... well, war. When Elbaph has disputes, they settle it through violence (at least historically).

So, I believe Kidd will be forced to fight other criminals for his freedom, like Luffy in the Sumo Inferno tournament Queen hosted.

What other mass criminal in Elbaph is there who also got wrecked by Shanks?

Hi, Loki, how are the Kidds?



I wouldn't be surprised if Pranks takes another limb off of Kidd, but, IMO, Kidd will develop CoC while fighting Loki. Loki will hate Kidd for invading his Kingdom, and wanting to kill Shanks, because Loki wants to be the one to kill Shanks. Loki and Kidd bonding over killing Shanks ignore their massive egos; see Kidd and Law arguing over who was damaging Big Mom most.

Like Luffy in Udon vs Linlin and in Onigashima vs Kaido, Kidd will have to learn Adv CoC by pushing his Haki limits in battle against a Yonkou-tier-fighter.

Like Kaido with Luffy, Shanks let Kidd live because he realized his potential.

Like Luffy, Kidd needed to be humbled in a 1v1 with a Yonkou, before coming back to fight another one. Bonus points if Pranks is Kidd's dad, and his mother was a Celestial Dragon victim taken advantage of because Kidd's home island couldn't pay Tribute, and Kidd eventually fights Pranks.

I don't expect Kidd to beat Loki, but, whatever Yonkou level character Kidd fights after he unlocks Adv CoC is going to lose to him, IMO. Oda has stated that Kidd was not planned for Wano, but Oda has also stated he has plans for Kidd in the New World. Considering Kidd introduced Elbaph before the Straw Hats reached it, I think it's clear that Elbaph will be Kidd's arc in the sense that Drssrosa was Law's.

The true "enemy" in Kidd's life is the WG. His home island, Kutsukku Island, was a mess because they couldn't pay tribute, and the resulting gang activity led Kidd, Killer, Heat, and Wire's mutual crush, Victoria, to being murdered. Random fun fact: Victoria got pissed at Kidd and Killer for laughing at her as children, after she spilt Curry Udon broth all over herself, and then beat them up for laughing. This caused Curry Udon to become Kidd and Killer's least favorite food. Luffy was defeated in the Kuri region by Kaido, and then taken to Udon prison to meet Kidd. Kuri = Curry, Udon = Udon. Ridiculous writing by Oda here.

When Ginny was kidnapped, a child was produced by the Celestial Dragons, then abandoned; Bonney. This showcases the Celestial Dragons LIKE taking advantage of the weakest people; IMO, Pranks kidnapped Ginny because of his father's failure at God Valley, and the desire to destroy anything related to it.

This series is incapable of making important characters not related to royalty, so, I firmly believed we'll learn Kidd has important origins in the future. This is my madcap theory:

-Kidd's mother was the Princess of Kutsukku Island
-When the kingdom could no longer pay the Tribute, Kidd's mother was impregnated by Pranks, but not taken, as she tried to fight back (like Kidd would)
-Kidd's mother was cursed by Kutsukku Island for not being able to pay the Royal Tribute, and hunted
-Kidd's mother died during birth/from trauma afterwards, and Kidd was raised as a no-name Orphan. Hence his name "Kidd"... it was the first thing anyone ever called him, he had no name.
-Kidd hates Shanks intrinsically because Shanks and Pranks have the same face.

Shanks and Elbaph destroyed the Victoria Punk, named after Victoria, who died because of Pranks' destroying Kidd's kingdom in the first place. If Pranks is too "young" to do this, then associate it with Garling, instead.

IMO, the Shanks/Kidd plotline is setting up Pranks to be Kidd's actual nemesis.

Kidd's rough upbringing/the death of his lover is because he lived in a lawless territory, like Kaido. His true enemy is the WG. Which WG enemies are we being introduced to via this arc? The Holy Knights.

I've long believed Shanks will give Luffy a CoC/Haki lesson at some point, and, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Kidd joined in.

Pranks is a sword-fighter, clearly. I could also see Kidd losing to Zoro in a fight, and having to learn to surpass the strong Haki of swordsmen in order to control their swords with Magnetism. Despite Kidd's appearances in the series, we've never really seen him use his Fruit to stop a top-tier's metal weapons. IMO, Kidd will try to do this against Pranks/Loki/Zoro, and get wrecked because he relied on his Fruit to overcome the Haki of the Sword.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kidd lost so limbs in the process. BUT, his Fruit can make up for that. Finally, by using Assign, Kidd can fuck with swordplay by magnetizing swords to other objects. Kidd's Assignment is so powerful that he was able to turn Linlin, a Yonkou, magnetic.

The fact that Kidd has never used his powers against a Swordsmen, and is now in an arc with a Shanks' lookalike screams "this is the swordsman Kidd uses his Fruit to fuck with".

This will also lead to a Bonney/Kidd alliance, most likely, as Pranks/Garling would then both be responsible for the misery in Kidd/Bonney's lives. Kidd is named Kidd, Bonney is an actual kid. Bingo Bongo.

Loki is the Yamato of Elbaph, a top-tier who wanted to murder his father, ate a Devil Fruit they weren't supposed to, and want to desperately escape their restrictive homeland, and then does so by joining a Yonkou crew that opposes their father.

Like Yamato, Loki will join the Kidd Pirates, alongside Bonney, in hatred of Pranks/Garling for invading their territory and attacking their people.

Kidd and Loki have the same destructive/egotistical attitudes, and have been shown in the same poses. Compare Kidd's imprisoned stance to Loki's: same positioning.



With Bonney, a Top-Tier who has replicated Gear 5 in combat, and Loki, a top-tier with a Yonkou-level-bounty with no crew, as well as a Royal Devil Fruit revered in Elbaph, Kidd, with Adv CoC, will finally emerge as a top tier.

I'd personally like to see Kidd and Loki vs Pranks in the end of Elbaph, but, I'm fine with them getting their own fights, too. Bonney and Kidd vs Pranks would also be very fun to read.

No Country for Old Men:

Elbaph is Kidd's Island



EOS Rulers:
King of the Pirates, Luffy
King of Hell, Zoro
God of the Pirates/King of the World/Grand Line Yonkou, Buggy
East Blue Yonkou: Usopp
West Blue Yonkou: Bege
North Blue Yonkou: Law
South Blue Yonkou: Kidd​
 
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I think Pranks could be Bonney’s dad. She looks like a Figarland.

If Pranks is about as old as Shanks, he’d be a bit young to be Kid’s dad.

Still I think Pranks is the reason Kid targeted the RHP over the timeskip. Basically think Pranks did something evil to Kid and the blame was pinned on Shanks(Oda did a similar plot in film Red).

Ultimately don’t think Kid will beat him. Rather think he could play a role similar to Law in dressrosa. Get a fight with Pranks and do some damage before Luffy saves him and 1v1s.
 

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I think Pranks could be Bonney’s dad. She looks like a Figarland.

If Pranks is about as old as Shanks, he’d be a bit young to be Kid’s dad.

Still I think Pranks is the reason Kid targeted the RHP over the timeskip. Basically think Pranks did something evil to Kid and the blame was pinned on Shanks(Oda did a similar plot in film Red).

Ultimately don’t think Kid will beat him. Rather think he could play a role similar to Law in dressrosa. Get a fight with Pranks and do some damage before Luffy saves him and 1v1s.
Yeah, Pranks would be 15/16 during this if he was the culprit. While at first I'd say this makes it unlikely, Scarlett fell in love with Kyros at 15, Shirahoshi was targeted by Decken BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN IN PUBERTY, Kaido was fighting in wars at 10... Oden was banging hookers at God knows what age I don't even want to look it up.

It would be messed up, but showcase the difference between Pranks and Shanks and their upbringings.

I don't think Luffy will fight Pranks because Luffy already stated he wants to defeat every Yonkou in a 1v1. So far, he's 2 for 5, with Buggy and Kaido down, and Linlin, Shanks, and Teach felt to go.

Linlin = Elbaph Luffy fight
Shanks = Lodestar Davy Back (testing Luffy to see if he's ready for Laugh Tale. Shanks loses, leaving Luffy, Buggy, Kidd with Bonney +
Teach = Laugh Tale

Kidd and Luffy vs Pranks would be a ton of fun, though. I'd like to see it the other way; Luffy start it off, and Kidd finishes it.

The attack Shanks tanked, Damned Punk, is what Kidd uses to finish off Pranks.

Kidd becomes Yonkou after defeating the strongest Holy Knight in combat.

Luffy and Pranks definitely need to clash. INB4 Luffy hits him with "Shanks is stronger, nishishishi"
 

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Great theory and Matches absolute what i expected. Just didnt expected a Pranks some years ago. :D

i‘d like to add:
I have Seen a theory where the Women on pranks side might be Victoria, which Kid and Killer assume to be dead
This would be so tragic/sad. I could see it working well.

Gunko's face is bandaged exactly where Victoria's freckles would be...

Also we need more women with freckles in One Piece.

IMO Oda is really trying to establish different pirates reasons for hating the WG going into the final war, to justify alliances at the end.
Kid is going to save Loki from being executed by the Holy knights while the Straw Hats look for they key :finally:
Mr. 3/Galdino Marineford situation, where Kidd twists metal into a key to free Loki?

Could work
Kidd is literally nowhere in sight!
Yeah, he's in jail, lol.
 
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