Powers & Abilities The Wildfire invades Totland

Yeah to collect her race folder
He has the same utility to her as the giraffe pinned down in her book
Blud is not reading, he projecting :endthis:
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:


Already coping? Why did Big Mom want Giants?

Lunarians are known to survive through any natural environment and has a natural Invincibility, that's why she invited him.

Kaido :
You are strong, from now Your name is King, join me and be my RHM
:steef:
 
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:


Already coping? Why did Big Mom want Giants?

Lunarians are known to survive through any natural environment and has a natural Invincibility, that's why she invited him.

Kaido :
You are strong, from now Your name is King, join me and be my RHM
:steef:
Blud we know your ass is not reading but she litterarly says "you are one of the races im missing"
He is getting into the cumjar
:endthis:
 
Ah yes, because Kaido's only good stat was durability to them, right? Let's not forget how he obliterated them all in his base form, right?

But I guess, going too much into detail would contradict what you're fantasizing about, lol.
What did him last this long surviving Togen Totsuka genius
:shocked:

Ah yes, because he's been using Jackpot against Marco, Izo, the fodders and several times against Zoro...
He did it against Zoro, and what stops him from using it ?
:shocked:
He also used Jackpot when Aramaki was negging his ass. I must have forgotten about this manga fact as well... silly me.
His slashes? Can be easily blocked by any high tier in Big Mom's crew.
His Fire Shots? Nothing threatening for any veteran character, it simply doesn't pack enough firepower.
Tempura Udon is powerful quite indeed but his movement will be restricted when Katakuri traps him with several tons of mochi.
That's basically his last resort and until he uses that, it's already far too late...
King who was heavily injured against Fraud Bull?
Shanks clowned Fraud Bull for attacking The winners who were weakened yet Losers are fine?
:shocked:

:kayneshrug:
Ironic that a rabid dummy like you is stating anything about headcanoning when you're picturing yourself how Kaido's first commander wrecks the complete territory of another Yonko including her entire crew, lol.

Guess what isn't a headcanon:
1.) The Yonko were in a deadlock for several years. This was evident when Shanks was finally doing his move after Kaido and Big Mom were gone. Blackbeard used an admiral plus other crew members to invade a weakened Tottoland. Kaido didn't even do a single move against them for years and was panicking when Big Mom invaded his country with a rather small fleet.
2.) The navy described how Big Mom has the strongest family. Hence that was Oda's way to say that her crew is hella strong, especially since her strongest subordinates are her own children.

King soloing Tottoland isn't headcanon, it's pure madness.

I'm rather surprised AfroKing also believes King has a good chance against them, lol.
Yeah, because Afroking uses his brain not his ass lmao.

Gear 4th Luffy and Lucci struggled against a single 8 YO Seraphim and you talk around like you said any shits lmao.
 
° King in flame on :
You are a threat.

° Zoro :
Why are you blocking my attacks? It should hurt you isn't it?

° Zoro :
They are NEARLY Invincible in Flame ON mode

When you talk to a clown who skips reading chapters.

:josad:
Yes yes, we are back to deflecting lenaker.
The Zoroscholars:
Ling would spam jackpot and aerial attacks.
Reality before Lolo unlocking acoc:
Lands before a land locked oppenent for no reason. Spams not jackpot

Truly a master class of the essayist again.
Come back when you stop crying and crashing out :endthis:
 
Blud we know your ass is not reading but she litterarly says "you are one of the races im missing"
He is getting into the cumjar
:endthis:
Yeah, i know your ass has a low IQ you forgot that she invited him to WCI because his special race has insane abilities.
I know your low iq clown also thought she invited Giants to be with her just because of their race isn't it.
:endthis:
 
Yes yes, we are back to deflecting lenaker.
The Zoroscholars:
Ling would spam jackpot and aerial attacks.
Reality before Lolo unlocking acoc:
Lands before a land locked oppenent for no reason. Spams not jackpot

Truly a master class of the essayist again.
Come back when you stop crying and crashing out :endthis:
You didn't say any shits low IQ clown, prove they can react to JackPot and they have a strong armament to block the explosion
:gonope:

Yeah, you have a low iq
 
What did him last this long surviving Togen Totsuka genius
So did Kaido's durability ultimately knock them all down lol?

He did it against Zoro, and what stops him from using it ?
Yes, ONCE.
Then he never did the same kind of explosion again. Heck, King canonically switched between his flame and speed mode several times, making him more vulnerable to Zoro. It's literally a gift to a highly skilled FS user like Katakuri who can easily give orders to his siblings and fodders to handle King at these situations.

King who was heavily injured against Fraud Bull?
Shanks clowned Fraud Bull for attacking The winners who were weakened yet Losers are fine?
:suresure:
Dude, you're so embarrassing lmao.
Can you give me the answer? Why wasn't King using it against Aramaki? And why is his injured state restricting him from using Jackpot?

Yeah, because Afroking uses his brain not his ass lmao.
Yep, unlike you using your dick when debating about this match-up lol.

Gear 4th Luffy and Lucci struggled against a single 8 YO Seraphim and you talk around like you said any shits lmao.
You must have forgotten how ALL Seraphim were still captured at the end.
I also think you keep forgetting one important detail: King is not facing few characters, he's facing a country.
 
Flameless King is vulnerable, we saw how a twig from a casual Aramaki made him vomit blood.
He ain't tanking a mogura
If he refuses to turn his flame off, he'd get ragdolled by Katakuri due to being too slow and they'll just have to trap him in the mirror world.
Flame OFF King who tanked 1 KoH and Adv CoC bird dance and only got beaten by Dragon Damnation.

Or Fraud Bull who struggled to penetrate and drain in his heavily injured form?
:shocked:
 
Mind you Marco alone was playing hot potato with king and queen
  1. After flying all the way from sphinx to wano
  2. After clashing with big mom
  3. After using his flames on the the main floor to stop the ice virus
  4. While also having to deal with fodder at the same time
    • Same type of fodder had zoro breathing heavy and was overwhelming the alliance in general
  5. While also protecting the main floor





Marco was straight up putting belt to ass:milaugh:
 
Let's entertain this idea - Alber sets one task in his mind and goes off to either do or die trying.
The task is the annihilation of Totland, flattening it with the ground.
The question is - Can the entire Charlotte family stop him from wiping them out?

The points in favor of King ending the entire Empire by himself:
1 - Charlotte family's strongest troops cannot fly and arent fast enough to keep up with King's speed.
2 - Charlotte family's strongest troops don't have enough firepower to come even close to aCoC-less Zoro who left a scar on Kaido.
3 - Charlotte family's strongest troops cannot react to and shield themselves from King's Jackpot.
4 - Charlotte family's main building was destroyed by the Tamatebako explosion which isn't even close to Jackpot.
5 - Charlotte family's Empire will be minced by highly destructive moves like Tempura Udon that was mincing Onigashima bedrock.
6 - Charlotte family's structures are made of sweets and are highly susceptible to heat as Red Hawk proved against Candy Maiden.
7 - Charlotte family doesn't have an answer to King's Imperial Slings and Arrows, keeping him high in the air while bombarding them like ants.
8 - Charlotte family's #1 is an incompetent sitting duck that can only throw tantrums due to Wildfire's air superiority that already sank her once.

Points in favor of King failing to wipe Charlottes out:
1 - Seeing all is lost and realizing their helplessness, they hide in Mont-d'Or's Mirror World and wait until it is safe to come out.

Verdict - Kaido's underling wipes out the entire Empire.
Did I get anything wrong? Can they do anything to prevent him from doing whatever he wants? :quest:
How exactly is he beating Big Mom?
 
The problem with the thread is that it's hard to debunk because everything about the setting is fanfic and the characters participating have been vaguely written.

That is why nik is confidentally ragebaiting with this thread and demands counterarguments.

Only delulus would get roped into defending this shit. Like I said...I am reading the manga correctly, more correct than the Zoro wanker squad. That is why I am confident in being more right than you guys lmao.

Keep on the clownshow.
So no counterargurment? Understood
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
There are several geppou users who managed to tag Sanji on air as well. King has some long ranged attacks but they're not remotely strong enough to take powerful enemies all at once and eventually, he's going to fight on land when he's getting jumped by Kuri, other commanders, other vets, other ministers until he needs a new therapist, lol. I think you're underestimating how much coordination the Big Mom pirates do in their own territory. King would be forced to retreat as fast as he was invading Tottoland. Too many enemies.

Like, that's real footage of King vs BMP:

Conext, Sen-chan, context... You cannot keep ignoring it.
People tagged Sanji who was distracted and was carrying Luffy and that was pre-RS Sanji while Sanji's RS-ified siblings zipped through those geppou users like nothing. And then, RS-ified Sanji was treated like a toddler by zoan King...

>King's attacks arent remotely powerful enough to take powerful enemies all at once...
And what is Totlands counter to Tempura Udon? I'll tell you what - nothing.
We already saw a result of this scenario when WCI cracked from explosion and started collapsing, they were all helpless including BM.
And that is a free fall after the castle tilted over while Tempura Udon simply minces the ground beneath you and you cant do anything.

What is Totland's answer to Extra Large Imperial Dragons coming down from the sky? I'll tell you what - nothing.
None of them have anything remotely effective against an attack like that. Credit to food-based powers.
He never has to fight on land, air superiority is too good to ignore but I will entertain it. What changes?
He lures them in for Jackpot and gets them all at once? Because they have no counter to it either.
That live footage would make sense if King wasn't tougher than Kaido while whole Totland cant damage even someone like starved BM.

Yuen isn't the only one with geppou.
Yeah cause King just jackpots everytime enemies go near him... He has done that against Sanji, Marco and the samurai fodders, right? King gets quickly overwhelmed by the enemies cause the Big Mom pirates actually know how to do teamplay. Also, Brulee will certainly touch King when he's getting jumped and pinned down by the masses...
If Big Mom is included, gg. She controls the whole sky and just needs to pinpoint King to throw him outta the sky with Indra.

Even Kuzan and Co needed a good moment to strike when the BMP were weakened, yet King's handling them ALL on his own?
Right, there is more fodder capable of moonwalk... Do you really think King will be bothered by those mosquitos?
King doesn't have to abuse Jackpot, one time is more than enough. The range is enough to nuke them all into afterlife in one go.
What teamplay is useful for aerial threat like King? You are relying on Yuen and the gang to stand in front of the ruler of the sky? Bruh...

Touching King isn't enough, she has to keep touching him while she goes through mirrors not that she will ever manage to touch him.
How does BM control the whole sky? What can she to against King? Indra will do nothing to him. It didn't deal any damage to Kidd and Killer, imaging thinking it will affect the one immune to natural forces...
Kuzan and Co don't have aerial superiority, damage immunity and highly effective and destructive AOEs as King does.
Not a single Charlotte member has what it takes to stop King and you know it.

Do you know why?
Because of 2 factors:

1. Your claim is absolute delulu and people try to correct you on this. +you probably ragebait

2. You apparently have some sheeps, sheeping your claim.

Looks to me more like you guys ganged together to troll this forum. Either you have a zorotard DM where you guys coordinate these threads. Or you mastered some kind of skill that allows you to manipulate dumb and delulu zorotards.

That's it. Based on pure logics there can't be anything else.
People try to correct me with their crying? That's not how you correct anyone, that's how you admit defeat.
Instead of trying to unearth some conspiracy theory by Zorotard overlords, try explaining what BMPs are going to do when King invades.
If King alone could wipe out an entire Yonko's empire by himself then Kaido should have been controlling the entirety of the New World already. :pepeke:
Wiping out territories and controlling them are 2 vastly different things.
You should be old enough to know the difference. Right, Owl-chin? :catlewd:
And all that circus just to wank Zoro further.
All this has nothing to do with Zoro but with Totlands inability to deal with a single threat in the sky.
As you can see with your own eyes, not a single valid counter-argument. Nothing but wishful thinking from opposition...

The fact this thread has 9 pages go to show the lengths the Zorotard circlejerk reaches. They're seriously reading another manga because this makes 0 narrative sense at all.

But again, I don't think Zorotards care about narrative, whenever it's about narrative, they say Zoro was nerfed by the plot like he's a separate entity being bound by the shackles of this manga but is actually upper hyperversal.
This wouldn't have 9 pages if a single person was capable of writing a counter-argument capable of debunking the points I made.
Maybe you are that lucky guy who will stop this?

Where was this insane 5head strat against an almost dead zolo? Why didn't he just use this gigabrain strat to tire zolo out and let him die from getting sucked by emma too much? King literally acknowledges that emma is killing zoro. So why did he not do this nik-san?


Btw, kata has insane range with his normal mochi attacks and even more with his awakening lol. Smoothie has range too. So does Perospero. And almost all of meme's children can use geppo.

The bird is getting cooked and offered to big meme as a snack lmao
What you speak of has Oda's input, however, in my hypothetical scenario, there is no Oda's opinion here.
>Insane range... For a landlubber, yes. King couldn't care less about any of their abilities, none of them can keep up with his speed nor do they have offense to damage him or withstand his highly destructive and lethal AOEs.
You forget that this is a guy who is tougher than Kaido while entire Charlotte family is a gang of healing panchi merchants.

Kaido wouldn´t react like that if King would be able to solo them.
Cmon guys be realistic a bit.
>Man legit plays ignorant of King trashing half her crew on the waterfall and saying >So much fuss over a single ship with Kaido showing a sign of relaxation that King took out the trash... :saden:
Be realistic, King's air superiority over BMPs has already happened on panel.
And then Marco reinforced it again.

:milaugh:
King would be on the floor before he knows it
He won't dodge q power mochi from behind his back
He's not that fast nor does his CoO is that good to dodge

Once he's down, game over for him

Flight means nothing against katakuri or Cracker

There's a reason why Kaido doesn't even get sad that King lost,
He knows he's a fraud.
Kaido was more worried about Jack losing than King lol
>Flight means nothing against Katakuri and Cracker... :risiup:
I see clearly that you are aware of the dark fate of the entire Charlotte family in this scenario.
You are simply coping and refusing the obvious outcome.

King never has to touch ground, he can wipe out everything just with Tempura Udon and Imperial Flaming Dragons, including Big Mom, Katakuri, Cracker and Smoothie. They are all helpless against it without any defense whatsoever.
The only option is running away into Mirror World, if King allows them.

Both sides are right tbh..There is no way in hell Oda would write just a subordinate dealing with a whole ass Emperor crew. On the other hand Oda has decided until now to not show the limitations of the Lunarian abilities and on top of that King has the ancient Zoan buff to keep going further easier and with more endurance.
Good post but I want to clarify, as this is a hypothetical scenario, there is no Oda's input.
I agree he would not allow this to happen but we are operating here within the limits of shown abilities of both sides.
And judging from your post, I am sure you would agree that the kingdom of sweets is doomed.

You do understand that Lunarians are invincible? :saden:
Sure, if he invades Tottoland without anyone noticing it beforehand and then proceeds to target the islands with fodder first, which is basically impossible as we have learned since WCI.
Doesnt matter if they notice him or not.
Their air defense is close to zero.
You have to rely on Yuen and other fodder to protect them.
Wonder how yall imagine that works... :shame:

Marco is one level above King
Is that why King leaves Marco in the dirt not treating him as a threat equal to broken and bandaged up immovable Zoro?

Marco made short work of him and Queen. Katakuri + Oven are enough. King got nothing on that sibling synergy.
The sibling synergy that ended up Caesar's victim? :saden:
If BM is here, Alber fails. If she's not, he might as well stomp
Genuinely wondering how do you expect her to stop King fro doing whatever he wants?
She is simply a tough rock, sitting there and taking low damage, that's all she is.
King never has to bother with her, he just destroys and sets on fire everything around her.
She eventually ends up in sea drowning and that's it.
This man consider king as strong as a yonko lmao :milaugh:
A yonko cant go alone in another Yonko territory and solo it.
King can. :kayneshrug:

How exactly is he beating Big Mom?
Mince the ground beneath her and sink her into the sea if nothing else?
Kick her off of Zeus and let her sink in the sea?
Ragdoll her with Tempura Udon considering even Kidd's metal bull ragdolled her?
Plenty of options and he never has to bother getting close to her. Not that she would be able to do anything to him anyway.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
So did Kaido's durability ultimately knock them all down lol?



Yes, ONCE.
Then he never did the same kind of explosion again. Heck, King canonically switched between his flame and speed mode several times, making him more vulnerable to Zoro. It's literally a gift to a highly skilled FS user like Katakuri who can easily give orders to his siblings and fodders to handle King at these situations.



:suresure:
Dude, you're so embarrassing lmao.
Can you give me the answer? Why wasn't King using it against Aramaki? And why is his injured state restricting him from using Jackpot?



Yep, unlike you using your dick when debating about this match-up lol.



You must have forgotten how ALL Seraphim were still captured at the end.
I also think you keep forgetting one important detail: King is not facing few characters, he's facing a country.
King being vulnerable TO ACOC ZORO does not mean he's vulnerable to katakuri

The gap between koh zoros ap and katakuri is bigger than the number that shows up when meme steps on scales
 
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