Role Madness A Certain Magical Mafia II - Game Thread

[MangoSenpai]

I anyway assumed he was modblocked for being AFK

During the nights, to be specific

 

[MangoSenpai]

@Yoho
@Dr. Watson
@MangoSenpai
@MUUGEN
Michelle
@York
@Alwaysmind
@Polar Bear
@Naomi
@Mr. Reloaded
@~UwU~
@Stargate18
@Pot Goblin
@Yo Tan Wa

Let's make an exercise, can everyone post their PoE with a short explanation?
I know some of you already posted but please answer at this with complete Poe and short reasons for it

I am 2 steps ahead;

I'll go through each alive player and work through my PoE;

Muugen has been revealed to be IC, it is not worth getting paranoid over this at this point in time-

York exposed Charlie, they cannot be scum

Stargate led the Flower wagon and should never be Scum for that reason

Naomi claiming to RB me, while a bit of a strange choice, is never one made by scum.
Also should be cleared by Charlies flip

AM and UWU has been AFK, and probably modblocked. While pretty much useless slots, this should technically clear them.

I know that I am town, so this is redundant.


This still leaves

Pot
YTW
Michelle
Reloaded
Michelle
Yoho
Watson


Personally I don't think Relo is scum, but I can't really say he isn't either.
But FMPOV, the above slots needs to be scrutinized

Forgot Polar, but I think from play, while being kinda lowkey - they have pretty good posts and I think apart from partially sussing me, have been pretty on point.

They are town leaning for me

But I guess the updated PoE would be without Michelle in it (I just now noticed I managed to write her twice);

YTW, Relo, Yoho, Watson, Pot


Though somewhere deep within I feel maybe my read is too shallow, too easy

 

[MangoSenpai]

I find your activity full of agenda and I don't like the defense of Charlie and the interaction with Flower.

While I don't neccesarily disagree with your assessment, from my PoV this is within her town range.

She has puzzled me several times in the past with some of the conclusions she arrives to, but then again I might be no better lmao.

What is kind of important though is how Charlie and Naomi's claims are very similar, to the point where I doubt the overlap exist.

And for that matter, Charlie claimed to have visited Fuji with this ability of his, which he alleged could block the visitors of his target, on Fuji the night he died. Which pretty much just by default invalidates his claim.

This was also one of the main reasons why Charlie was gunned for in addition to having the result looming over him.

 

[MangoSenpai]

why was stargate town read?

there early reads day 1 stated yoho had good reads, but all yoho talks about was off topic stuff. lmao

I did mention that this post in particular puzzled me, but I'm not sure if it puzzles me enough to reconsider the entire slot.

But I had Stargate as town due to his influence on the Flower wagon.

And he has also been attempted killed - which is never a town shot, so that already lends itself in his favor.

Though, I might suspect that one of the failed kills may be fake - I have no evidence for this however, just pure fantasy and speculation. But just trying to think of reasons why there were 3 kill attempts last night, when the SK is dead..

Worst case scenario I suppose is that scum somehow stole the SK's kill giving them permanently 2 kill power - but I have a hard time seeing that ever being the case.

I guess it's not really much use overhinking it either.



Anyway, unless I've severely misread things or given him too much leniency - I believe he should in most likelyhood be town

 

[Pot Goblin]

The only way she could fake being the vig, is if Fuji was janitored Vig - but that still doesn't hold water with the amount of kills happening during the night

This was in the back of my mind though seein this I agree I think she is indeed vig here with the night kills happening

 

[MangoSenpai]

Mango- he said Charlie's flip cleared Naomi but I just isoed them both and skim and scanned both of their text and Charlie had Naomi as a GTH town and Naomi was just voting Charlie because of Yorks efforts so I don't see how that flip cleared Naomi

Lmao, so you can iso people. Didn't know you had it in you, well done.

Also, for the bolded, that was yet another mistake by Charlie.
Him saying Naomi was GTH town went against Charlie being Town, since they were essentially counter claiming each others.

So again, you're failing to see the details of what's going on.
Naomi is cleared due to the circumstances surrounding his claims.

Charlie were caught in several lies, and you trying to use Charlie's posts as a credible source is riddiculous to me.

 

[Naomi]

oh yeah

Vote lynch Yoho

 

[MangoSenpai]

My main issue with Watson was the lack of actual reads and heavy sheeping. For better or for worse, while they're more inactive they're now providing reads and attempting to push people.

Really? Are we playing the same game?

I haven't seen her do much other than CWACing, and fluffing.

 

[Naomi]

Really? Are we playing the same game?

I haven't seen her do much other than CWACing, and fluffing.

this why i sus them, because like there ai writing stuff that didn't happen.

 

[Yoho]

Hmmmmmm

Lmao, so you can iso people. Didn't know you had it in you, well done.

Also, for the bolded, that was yet another mistake by Charlie.
Him saying Naomi was GTH town went against Charlie being Town, since they were essentially counter claiming each others.

So again, you're failing to see the details of what's going on.
Naomi is cleared due to the circumstances surrounding his claims.

Charlie were caught in several lies, and you trying to use Charlie's posts as a credible source is riddiculous to me.

once in a while yeah its more entertaining asking directly tho

 

[Charlie]

Day 4, VC2
up to post #3,730

Spoiler: Wagons (lynch)

Hammer at 8.

Yoho - 4
Dr. Watson - 1
Michelle - 1

Closest to hammer so far is Dr. Watson with 4 votes.

Spoiler: Voting history (lynch)

Mr. Reloaded: Yoho > Michelle > Dr. Watson
Michelle: Mr. Reloaded > unvote
Polar Bear: Michelle
Naomi: Yo Tan Wa > Dr. Watson > Yoho
MangoSenpai: Dr. Watson > Yoho
Stargate: Yoho

Spoiler: Wagons (duel)

Alwaysmind - 5
Dr. Watson - 0

Spoiler: Voting history (duel)

Naomi: Alwaysmind
Michelle: Alwaysmind > Alwaysmind
Mr. Reloaded: Alwaysmind > Alwaysmind
Pot Goblin: Alwaysmind
MangoSenpai: Alwaysmind

Spoiler: Quotes

Vote Yoho

Vote alwaysmind to win the duel

Vote alwaysmind to win the duel

Unvote (for the lynch)

Vote Alwaysmind to win duel

Duel: Alwaysmind

Duel: Alwaysmind

Duel: Alwaysmind

Vote Duel Alwaysmind

Vote Lynch Yoho

Vote lynch Yoho

Pretty sure that's "true" VC but don't take my word for it :o

@Ratchet​

 

[MangoSenpai]

this why i sus them, because like there ai writing stuff that didn't happen.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. Could simply be a divergence of interpretation.

I wouldn't lean too heavily on it.

But to adress the counter point that Michelle has on you, being that you defended Flower - I believe Fuji put best;

Naomi is lock town for me I trust her, shes just falling for Flowers ATE right now.

I don't think there's much other in the way of doubting Naomi's town status other than this, but I am well and completely within the belief that the above post is the truth.

I understand pointing this out will come at the risk of being interpreted as lawyering for her, but this is just well and truly what I think.

 

[Naomi]

Well, I wouldn't go that far. Could simply be a divergence of interpretation.

I wouldn't lean too heavily on it.

But to adress the counter point that Michelle has on you, being that you defended Flower - I believe Fuji put best;

I don't think there's much other in the way of doubting Naomi's town status other than this, but I am well and completely within the belief that the above post is the truth.

I understand pointing this out will come at the risk of being interpreted as lawyering for her, but this is just well and truly what I think.

where did i defend flower?

lol

 

[Naomi]

like i said i had to go for my taxi when flower vs fuji happen.


if you call this defending, then meh.

 

[MangoSenpai]

why did she claim even night cop?

sound nerf to scum, i don't think scum cop is nerf liked that.

Posts like these for example

 

[Naomi]

Posts like these for example

that why asked, because it sound sus.

 

[MangoSenpai]

like i said i had to go for my taxi when flower vs fuji happen.


if you call this defending, then meh.

I said to adress Michelle's concern - and I also concluded that there's a very low probablility you're scum.

No use getting hung up on these insignificant details.

 

[MangoSenpai]

that why asked, because it sound sus.

I'm not saying you did or didn't. Fact is I wasn't even there when it happened.

But from talk about it, and some skimming, I was also under the impression you were resisting the flower lynch.

But this and that are two different topics alltogether.

I'm effectively saying you're Town, regardless of what impression you left people with the Flower wagon.

 

[Naomi]

I said to adress Michelle's concern - and I also concluded that there's a very low probablility you're scum.

No use getting hung up on these insignificant details.

nah flower afk was scum lean.

i just don't have the heart to lynch her when she scum, you guys got do the dirty job for me.

 

[Alwaysmind]

nah flower afk was scum lean.

i just don't have the heart to lynch her when she scum, you guys got do the dirty job for me.

Your role needed flower tone?