Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1137 Spoilers Discussion

[Embers Kaios]

Mohawk only wants to go back to the abandonned monkey island to tend to his vineyard and plants, preferably without Perona or any other disturbances there this time.
Bro has no big ambition, he got bored after becoming WSS.

Still weaker than Shamrock and his twim

 

[MonsterKaido]

Why would they ask Loki to be a Holy Knight? Loki isn’t ideologically aligned with the WG, he wants to destroy the world. Loki also doesn’t have the nation of Elbaf at his back.

The only possible explanation of Kaido being turned into a labrat while Loki was offered to become a Holy Knight is Loki > Kaido
@The DevilMaster @comrade

First they want elbaph to be included under WG. Loki is the prince of elbaph. They can have loki as puppet king of elbaph and control it.

Kaido was a pirate with no crew and nothing when he was captured. He had very little value to them.

Marines wanted kid Kaido to serve under marines.

 

[soupongo]

We do not know why he didn't used it or most likely couldn't. It was under water anyways. All we know is that he was preparing for war.

How is he preparing though? He has no plan or way of beating the WG. He was running away from just Shanks and crying at the news of Fujitora arresting his boy. Kaidos entire life goal was to kill people in Wano for no reason and sell seastone to the WG. It's just the facts

 

[Saint Wentorno]

Who is Revolver Ocelot?

Maybe a yet to be revealed Holy Knight

 

[IIskandar1997]

Chopping off your own horns because "you hate violence". Harald keeps getting lamer by the second

 

[Gintoki]

pretty sure postponehawk hasn't met Shamrock in his entire life

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

First they want elbaph to be included under WG.

Gaining Loki doesn’t accomplish that. Elbaf fucking hates this guy. The entire nation ganged up on him to keep him in prison. Lol

Kaido was a pirate with no crew and nothing when he was captured.

Loki is the same, no crew, no allies…but you don’t see Kaido being offered the Holy Knight rank. Lol

 

[MonsterKaido]

How is he preparing though? He has no plan or way of beating the WG. He was running away from just Shanks and crying at the news of Fujitora arresting his boy. Kaidos entire life goal was to kill people in Wano for no reason and sell seastone to the WG. It's just the facts

I mean he was increasing the power of his crew by feeding them zoans. He accepted the alliance of BM. Had plans to get other ancient weapons. You still think he was not doing enough? He had 30,000 working under him.

 

[MarineHQ]

If your fav character isn't in the spread don't expect him to get plot relevancy, that's how OP is rolling now.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

That's interesting. Yeah. Like how did they get so strong?

Celestial Dragons ancestors defeated Joyboy so they knew how to fight, I guess there's a group of CDs that didn't become lazy slobs and kept training

 

[HellBlazer04]

Thing is, it seems Gorosei are fomer HK leaders based on Garling.
They might be old but due to immortality it shouldn't affect their strenght much

Not sure about this. We would need to find how long ago these elders were recruited. Because to me it seems like they have existed since the beginning of void century.

 

[Saint Wentorno]

Chopping off your own horns because "you hate violence". Harald keeps getting lamer by the second

Even some of the Giant kids at Ripley's school still have their horns on despite hating violence and violent people.
Harald is just crazy for resorting to self harm to prove a point.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Gaining Loki doesn’t accomplish that. Elbaf fucking hates this guy. The entire nation ganged up on him to keep him in prison. Lol



Loki is the same, no crew, no allies…but you don’t see Kaido being offered the Holy Knight rank. Lol

They can simply by force do that. It does not change loki is still nobility.

I still don't see any proof of why they want a pirate in their ranks in first place? We do not even know how recruiting even happens lmfao

You gasping at straws here.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Also, this chapter proves 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that Shanks is a Celestial Dragon.

We knew it indirectly, but this makes it fully certain.

On the flipside im half convinced now that Mihawk is from the Nerona family

 

[Albino 👑]

Shanks aint bad bruh even Im off that train lol. Oda made a twin brother for this exact reason evidently

Nah I don’t thinks shanks is a bad guy I just think luffy will still eventually fight him for the one piece
Imo
Shanks is headed to laugh tale with buggy

Shanks the guardian and the last obstacle to the one piece

We know and shanks himself knows that he isn’t the man fated to find the one piece, surpass Roger, and then surpass joyboy
While he may not be that guy have been tasked by Roger to find the person that is

He like everyone else from the world government, the marines, most pirates, and Roger himself likely originally thought it was supposed to be ace. With him more likely than not being in search for him until he got to know luffy and decided to change plans. With him betting on luffy being the one fated to surpass roger and joyboy

With luffy finally awakening his fruit and defeating kaido in the process finally decided it’s time to move
With there being a decent chance he already has all 4 poneglyph rubbing

1. He knew about the one in zou for decades
2. Knew about the one in fmi for decades before it was taken
3. Took the one from wci from kid
4. Took the one from wano from kid

So yeah there’s a good shot he already has all 4 as is. While we don’t know if he has anyone capable of reading them he’s still pretty close

If he has 4 that means he’d be waiting at laughtale for either luffy or Blackbeard. With both of them missing the final rubbing they’re probably going to end up fighting for it with the winner moving on

Shanks obviously wanting it to be luffy that meets him on the island but ready for the worst if it ends up being Blackbeard

As for buggy shanks might end up reaching out to him to form some sort of deal or temporary alliance so that they can go there together. Buggy not going with him as a subordinate but someone on equal terms with shanks also being an emperor

If the strawhats end up beating the Blackbeard Pirates (they will) and fight the red haired pirates a Davy back fight would be a fitting way for their crews to compete. Buggy and cross guild could be the ones helping set up the event and judging the games

• Them being good a setting up events in general
• Them being equally biased against both crews that it makes them unbiased

Buggy and cross guild still deciding to go after the treasure anyway despite who wins or something

Blackbeard takes over the world

We know that Blackbeard main goal is to take over the world. With him likely wanting to use the one piece + joining the world government as his way to do that. Him wanting everything he can get his hands on like xebec before him

With Blackbeard “joining” the world government he’s definitely going to fuck them over just like he does everyone in his way to the top. Him learning about Imu is basically being his shortcut to the top without needing to go after the one piece anymore. Blackbeard using his new position to take Imu out and replace him
His final zoan fruit also likely coming from Imu

If Blackbeard does that I’d imagine he’s not going to just hide in the shadows like Imu but have it be well known that he’s king of the world. Spreading his influence far and wide. Probably putting his own men in places of power too

1. Blackbeard replacing Imu obviously leader of the world and celestial dragons
2. Kuzan potentially taking Sakazuki’s position and becoming in charge of the marines
3. Shiryu becoming the new chief warden
4. Laffitte maybe leading cipher pol and stationing himself in enies lobby
5. The seraphim being his warlord equipment

If the world government already has Uranus and Blackbeard finds out the location of the other 2 by caribou he’s probably going to end up with all 3 too

On top of that red line Avalo Pizarro

Kaido (wano) -> Big Mom (elbaf) -> Shanks w/ buggy (laugh tale) -> Blackbeard (Mary geoise)

 

[soupongo]

I mean he was increasing the power of his crew by feeding them zoans. He accepted the alliance of BM. Had plans to get other ancient weapons. You still think he was not doing enough? He had 30,000 working under him.

Bro,the smile program was obviously a scam on doflamingos part. That shit was useless. He had no plan of building an alliance with big mom until she came to his island. As far as we know,he never tried to build an alliance with any Yonko before that,or even idk, Elbaf? The wg takes Kaidos threats of war so seriously they allow their top scientist/contractor to live like 5 mins away from Wano.

 

[Saint Wentorno]

Thing is, it seems Gorosei are fomer HK leaders based on Garling.
They might be old but due to immortality it shouldn't affect their strenght much

I would agree on most of them except Saturn.
Imu made him an Elder too late. Bro cannot walk around without his cane and being hunched. And Kuma's punch destroyed him.
Saturn was better kept at Marie Geoise doing science stuff, he is not a fighter and is too old to be one despite the hax regen.
Imu should lower the maximum Elder candidate age to 60.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Bro,the smile program was obviously a scam on doflamingos part. That shit was useless. He had no plan of building an alliance with big mom until she came to his island. As far as we know,he never tried to build an alliance with any Yonko before that,or even idk, Elbaf? The wg takes Kaidos threats of war so seriously they allow their top scientist/contractor to live like 5 mins away from Wano.

? Having strong fodders matter. Izo says that much as they can wear you down.

Kaido was increasing his man power and strength of his crew.

Clearly had plans to take ancient weapons.

What more do you want from him?

 

[sanjikun]

On the flipside im half convinced now that Mihawk is from the Nerona family now

Is everyone going to be a CD now That would give Mihawk too much hype

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

They can simply by force do that. It does not change loki is still nobility.

Why would they need Loki to do that lmfao? How would forcing a prince everyone hates into power increase the WG’s ability to control Elbaf? Lmfao

I still don't see any proof of why they want a pirate in their ranks in first place? We do not even know how recruiting even happens lmfao

Shampebble is a Holy Knight tho