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Lunarians abilities made the seraphims the strongest humans per Vegapunk's words yet you called them a gimmick .:saden:
There's no difference to Lunarian genes and Germa genes. One gets trashed while another one is ridiculously more op. So King is THE definition of genes merchant because his LUNARIAN GENES were used to create the "strongest humans." Btw, you also clearly forgot that they're mixed with other genes as well, right? :risicheck:
 
There's no difference to Lunarian genes and Germa genes. One gets trashed while another one is ridiculously more op. So King is THE definition of genes merchant because his LUNARIAN GENES were used to create the "strongest humans." Btw, you also clearly forgot that they're mixed with other genes as well, right? :risicheck:
Both genes merchant, lunarian > germa

Zoro low diffs the cook
 
Not all Yonko are the same. That's the point. Their personalities heavily differ from Kaido's and Big Mom's. It's the exact reason why Shanks was trusted enough to be alone in presence of Whitebeard and they actually had a full fledged conversation before they actually clashed. Kaido and Linlin went straight to a fight for 3 days before realizing the common threat being posed towards them.

Blud, the whole reason they had an alliance was to take over the world. Kaido sat in wano doing nothing for 2 decades because hewas preparing an army for this world war. That's the WHOLE point of his shallow ass character. How do you fail to understand such a shallow characters? Only Onepiss fans...

And you're still dodging the question. Why was Kaido worried about a full scale war with a fraction of Linlin's actual forces which didn't even have 3 of her 5 strongest warriors
Kaido didn't sit on Wano for 2 decades you literally just making shit up.
 
One shot what? An already bandaged Cracker.

Pizzaro tanked a stronger attack and could recover instantly unlike his victim Fraudzan who couldn't until Garp went through an army of fodders and decided to leave.
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Unlike you, I ain't using that as a reason to claim why Cracker got one shot like that. :suresure:

Good? What does that have to do with King the Fertilizer? Did you forget what happened to him against "Fraudbull"? Or what would happen to him if he faced Cracker and Lord Kuri? :saden:
 
@Paperchampion23 Shamrock not being the burn scar man is really bizarre tbh. If he’s not the guy sailing around on the jet black ship, then why is he being so secretive in the holy land, why did the Gorosei act like he was a visitor, and why did he need to talk about a pirate he’s presumably been gathering info on?
I dont think its that deep now tbh. Its probably because he looks like Shanks and its to avoid confusing the masses.
 

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It made him think oven is the enemy ,it doesnt nerf kat at all yet hes going blow for blow with him
How its not bad
The gas doesnt stop kat from using fs vs the "enemy"
He wasn’t using his Haki, his Devil Fruit, and there was - 10 reason to believe he was using FS because he was drugged lmfao

So again, why is this a bad feat? This is fruitless Hakiless Kuri. Why don’t we discuss Katakuri when he was actually exceeding FS Snake Man?

King was literally turning his invincibility off when he wasn’t even drugged lmfao. Just imagine how bad King would look if he was drugged by hallucinogens.
 
He wasn’t using his Haki, his Devil Fruit, and there was - 10 reason to believe he was using FS because he was drugged lmfao

So again, why is this a bad feat? This is fruitless Hakiless Kuri. Why don’t we discuss Katakuri when he was actually exceeding FS Snake Man?

King was literally turning his invincibility off when he wasn’t even drugged lmfao. Just imagine how bad King would look if he was drugged by hallucinogens.
Oven wasn't using his fruit or Haki either.
 
The truth is, guys, you're not prepared to accept that in One Piece there is no fixed and solid basis for debating powers and scaling with coherence. Kaido was supposed to be the strongest creature in the world, but look today, it seems that Loki and Shanks represent a greater threat than Kaido.
There is a kind of inflation that quickly erodes the characters' achievements. In two arcs, Joyboy's haki that shook Egghead and expelled the Goroseis will seem like a joke.
You don't need to be so blunt and serious in your debates, taking it personally. Oda is not Togashi to create a world and a story so perfectly tied together.
You spend hours there debating King vs. Katakuri, when the basis for the debate is a flexible manga that doesn't present a strong basis to support the comparisons. It becomes a battle of guesses...
If we're going to debate guesses without any responsibility, then let's debate politics. That's a fun debate of guesses.
 
But law has outright said they have territorial clashes for years. So once again you're denying the manga.
lol that was just a thing he said to exemplify the fact that yonkos are the owners of the new world. This territorial clashes must've been minor and between fodder not between actual yonkos. Shanks pulled up and his crew destroyed Barto for simply burning his flag, this is considered a "territorial clash" but is it really that major? WB said he hadn't heard of Shanks in a few years... he obviously would if it was a major territorial clash

And again, THIS WORKS AGAINST YOU. If there was territorial clashes between major commanders, King still hadn't managed to defeat all of BMP at once. Was King just taking a break between these clashes or what:suresure::suresure::suresure:. Your own point proves King cannot beat all of the BMP brother... because he literally didn't in these territorial clashes
 
He wasn’t using his Haki, his Devil Fruit, and there was - 10 reason to believe he was using FS because he was drugged lmfao

So again, why is this a bad feat? This is fruitless Hakiless Kuri. Why don’t we discuss Katakuri when he was actually exceeding FS Snake Man?

King was literally turning his invincibility off when he wasn’t even drugged lmfao. Just imagine how bad King would look if he was drugged by hallucinogens.
He was drugged to belive oven is the enemy and oven is clearly using haki bcs kat bleeds
So what makes u think kat couldnt use haki
Snake man is overrated in terms of speed
Kat is at best above g2 speed pre wano, snakeman is a little bit faster than g2
 
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