General & Others Akainu durability is top notch

#1
King , Big Mom , G5 Luffy , Kaido, all those characters come in mind when talkinh about durability . But in this thread I will explain why Akainu tanking feats put him on same scale ( if not even greater ) as those mentioned.

1. Tanking direct Haki punch from behind to the head from Whitebeard


Ok now let me explain what this is about and lets see 2 things that are behind this attack :

A) Physical power behind it
B) Haki strength of user


Whitebeard physical power is impressive, he is WSM and he has enormous physical strength feats like stopping his giant ship in movement


Or overpowering a literal giants :


Now Haki part.

Whitebeard had haki clash and split sky 2 times with 2 characters whose Haki is considered strongest and those are Roger and Shanks. Excluding old legends like Joyboy , Ryuma , Whitebeard haki is in top 3 ever together with Roger and Shanks.

So Akainu tanked attack that had enormous physical strength behind it and tanked haki which is top 3 in world with Rogers and Shanks haki.

2. Tanking Gura Gura direct hit


This was not regualar hit , it had such force that split MArineford battleground in half as side effect while AKainu took direct hit , his body was epicenter.


Take in mind as Oda himself said Gura gura is one of strongest Paramecia :


So Akainu tanked one of strongest paramecia devil fruit , capable of spliting battlefield in half.

3. Tanking haki attacks that can make flame on Lunarian bleed.

Akainu tanked combined haki attacks of Marco and Vista


Guys compare 2 images and see that this is same left leg kick marco used to damage flame on Lunarian King and send him flying and make him bleed


Akainu was not even send flying let alone suffering some internal bleeding damage.

This confirms Akainu durability > Flame on Lunarian because we have same character using literally same move for perfect comparison.



So in summary Akainu tanked :

1. Haki punch where used Haki strength is in top 3 haki ( excluding old legends ) + physical force from world strongest man

2. Tanked direct hit from one of strongest paramecia devil fruit , one that splits the battlefield in half as side effect

3. Tanked same attack that damaged flame on Lunarian


Top notch durability , devil fruit with one of highest offensive powers , stamina to fight 10 days, mortally wounding World strongest Pirate , defeating fellow admiral in 1 vs 1 , changing landscape of half an island, becoming fleet admiral , 5 billion bounty.

I am telling you guys , HE IS HIM.
 
#4
1. I think him tanking Quakes is an endurance feat not durability. Quakes does internal damages not external.

2. As for the feat vs Marco/Vista :
● maybe he shapeshifted around their slash? Didn't struck me that they hit his real body, otherwise he should have bled

● King's durability was likely retconned, it's hard to believe Zoro's attack power
( without ACoC even ) is < Marco's
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I agree Akainu is him but just have some disagreements

Oda could easily make Akainu extremely durable, by letting his magma body solidify into rock like this :


Also all Igneous Rocks come from Magma :




Doffy's strings and Cracker's biscuits were tanking G4 hits, Akainu on paper could easily become much much more durable than them.

Maybe not as durable as King but durable enough to not break from Post Elbaf Luffy's G4 and G5 attacks? Yeah Oda could easily make that​
 
#5
1. Haki punch where used Haki strength is in top 3 haki ( excluding old legends ) + physical force from world strongest man

2. Tanked direct hit from one of strongest paramecia devil fruit , one that splits the battlefield in half as side effect

3. Tanked same attack that damaged flame on Lunarian
Out of these 3 , third one is plain wrong.

Other two are same thing only. And
- Oldbeard couldn't Use haki.

So claim of Whitebeard using Haki is wrong.

Whitebeard solely relied on Devil fruit. His paramacia type generates Viberation/Shockwaves which can interact with Magma.

Also Whitebeard is earthquake man , If you understand how earthquake works , It's least at the focus and Maximum at epicentre.

So Calling Akainu tanked Island level attack is also wrong. Not only that how is that a feat when Whitebeard K.O.ed Akainu there? , even if he was in Zoro 30 broken bone condition I would have considered it a feat.
 
#6
These are largely endurance feats.

he’s not better or close to any of the characters you named in “durability”.

He’s significantly superior to a bug like king, and arguably slightly superior to Luffy. while significantly below big mom/Kaido in that regard tho

Him or teach probably got the best endurance among top tier currently
I would say that is durability. Durability can have different forms, your skin being so tough that attacks dont get through it is one of them, that is the type Kaido, Big Mom and King are - with King definitely having the highest durability of them all. Akainu with the toughness of his body and mind combined with his logia abilities, definitely has insane durability. Cant think of any character who wouldnt get down from those full power Whitebeard blows that he launched at full rage on an off guard Akainu.

Endurance is something I would say comes on top. Akainu being constantly active from start to the end of war, or him winning the 10 day fight against Aokiji. Endurance is what seperates Kaido so much from King who had awful endurance and "human" durability.


Cracker is the best example. He had really good endurance (fighting for 12 hours straight), and the durability of his crack was really good as well - but his own human body lacked durability which is why Luffy could damage and eventually beat him with just a few blows he landed on his body. Akainu could just stand there letting that Wci Gear 4 hit him all day and laugh about it.
 
#7
I think this is more of a matter of endurance than durability, there isn’t a certain threshold of punishment required to injury Akainu but he can withstand great force and keep going forward, he’s a monster indeed.
 
#10
The word "tanking" has lost all meaning.
He never tanked Whitebeard's attacks. We see him cough a puddle of blood each time and grunt and grimace in pain.
You're very confused, that isn't tanking an attack, it's WITHSTANDING one.
Tanking = Taking an attack and receiving a minimum amount of damage (or not receiving any damage at all).
Enduring = Taking an attack and being hurt but being able to tolerate it and keep fighting as if you're fine
Withstanding = Being rocked by an attack and being clearly hurt or even weakened by it, but still being conscious and capable of fighting, even if you're struggling to endure it.
It's hard to explain but I think that's the gist of it.
 
#11
The word "tanking" has lost all meaning.
He never tanked Whitebeard's attacks. We see him cough a puddle of blood each time and grunt and grimace in pain.
You're very confused, that isn't tanking an attack, it's WITHSTANDING one.
Tanking = Taking an attack and receiving a minimum amount of damage (or not receiving any damage at all).
Enduring = Taking an attack and being hurt but being able to tolerate it and keep fighting as if you're fine
Withstanding = Being rocked by an attack and being clearly hurt or even weakened by it, but still being conscious and capable of fighting, even if you're struggling to endure it.
It's hard to explain but I think that's the gist of it.
Tanking is in fact gaming term where tank role thanks to it superior health bar and superior armour is able to take more damage than other character yet even tank is still receiving damage . There is no clear definition of term in comics and its open to interpretation.

I personally consider it tanking if character is able to continue fighting without any major disadvantage that would effect his fighting performance .

Making someone bleed dont mean much in fiction like it does in real life.

Akainu was able to continue next panel after Whitebeard hit him in head and he even blow away half of his face so it seem like tanking to me.

Marco and Vista haki attacks didnt even stagger him .

Quake attack did most damage , we dont see Akainu because he fell into chasm but later he was able to continue fighting perfectly fine and even overpower other characters. Its stated Akainu melted his path and made circle behind pirates . Immediately after throwing Akainu into chasm Whitebeard faced Blackbeard and fight was extremely short not even a minute , meanwhile Akainu was already back on surface so its clear he tanked that attack too but this time with greater damage.
 
#13
No, Akainu does not have very high durability and resistance.

When he received Whitebeard's attack, Akainu was 100% fresh. This is different from Big Mom taking Law and Kid's final attack, which far surpasses Whitebeard's Gura Gura attack, and even before that, she admitted she was already tired.

So, a question: Could Akainu withstand the attack while openly declaring he’s already tired? No.
The other issue is that DC does not translate to AP; Gura Gura's attacks are overrated due to how they function/operate.
An example of this is Fujitora's Ferocious Tiger. It had decent DC and is a very flashy attack that makes it seem like a BIG move, but in the end, it failed to knock out a bandaged Dressrosa Luffy.



We could be here saying: Look at this destruction and great attack that Luffy withstood, his resistance is definitely very high.
While a Thunder Bagua from base Kaidou knocked out Luffy in a single strike.

Gura Gura works the same way with flashy attacks but it doesn't mean they are better than other non-flashy attacks that have greater power.
 
#14
Retards aka yOnktards try to downplay Newgate using the scale of his strike when that was all collateral and he caught Sakazuki off guard from it too

1st hit from Newgate off a complete blindside , most vulnerable position a character can be in especially against someone enraged. He didn’t get K.O’d from it and had enough to deliver a lethal counter which is insane because the rule in OP is once off guard you’re basically done; but anyway this is the durability feat, also endurance but this one peaks at durability since he was able to get back up.

2nd hit from Newgate was when he beat a shocked Sakazuki to the punch and this attack being even more powerful than the first one, with the previous quake it was a perfect set up for Newgate to BFR Sakazuki and this is where the endurance feat peaks , he wasn’t KO’d at all but BFR’d.

He’s more of an endurance monster , still have monstrous durability as well.
 

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#15
Unlike most people in this thread, I wouldn't say these feats are more endurance than durability, because I don't know what to make of the Marco and Vista scene, they did no damage to him but he felt their attacks. So he does seem to have insane durability ontop of his endurance.

Oden who is a hyped born monster, fell from a basic cheapshot from Kaidou to the head. Akainu took on an enraged WB quakeshot from behind to his head and retaliated immediately. So his durability is up there for sure, there's only so much enduring you can do with a headshot, when your brain gets rattled it gets rattled, you can't just thug it out.

Maybe being a logia adds to his durability, or maybe it was haki but it's not something Oda drew clearly pretimeskip.
 
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#16
Retards aka yOnktards try to downplay Newgate using the scale of his strike when that was all collateral and he caught Sakazuki off guard from it too

1st hit from Newgate off a complete blindside , most vulnerable position a character can be in especially against someone enraged. He didn’t get K.O’d from it and had enough to deliver a lethal counter which is insane because the rule in OP is once off guard you’re basically done; but anyway this is the durability feat, also endurance but this one peaks at durability since he was able to get back up.

2nd hit from Newgate was when he beat a shocked Sakazuki to the punch and this attack being even more powerful than the first one, with the previous quake it was a perfect set up for Newgate to BFR Sakazuki and this is where the endurance feat peaks , he wasn’t KO’d at all but BFR’d.

He’s more of an endurance monster , still have monstrous durability as well.
Ignore them they are just upset Akainu whose durability was never higlighted within manga actually has feats that even surpass their favorite yonko in this area.
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Unlike most people in this thread, I wouldn't say these feats are more endurance than durability, because I don't know what to make of the Marco and Vista scene, they did no damage to him but he felt their attacks. So he does seem to have insane durability ontop of his endurance.

Oden who is a hyped born monster, fell from a basic cheapshot from Kaidou to the head. Akainu took on an enraged WB quakeshot from behind to his head and retaliated immediately. So his durability is up there for sure, there's only so much enduring you can do with a headshot, when your brain gets rattled it gets rattled, you can't just thug it out.

Maybe being a logia adds to his durability, or maybe it was haki but it's not something Oda drew clearly pretimeskip.
Marco and Vista attacks did not even faze him it got straight tanked so durability feat.

First Whitebeard attack from behind was haki attack we see that circle at Whitebeard hand , yet each time he uses quake its accompanied by black lighting marks. Akainu being able to continue instantly means his durability was up to task not endurance .

Only quake punch to body could be huge endurance at play too together with his durability.
 
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#17
Unlike most people in this thread, I wouldn't say these feats are more endurance than durability, because I don't know what to make of the Marco and Vista scene, they did no damage to him but he felt their attacks. So he does seem to have insane durability ontop of his endurance.

Oden who is a hyped born monster, fell from a basic cheapshot from Kaidou to the head. Akainu took on an enraged WB quakeshot from behind to his head and retaliated immediately. So his durability is up there for sure, there's only so much enduring you can do with a headshot, when your brain gets rattled it gets rattled, you can't just thug it out.

Maybe being a logia adds to his durability, or maybe it was haki but it's not something Oda drew clearly pretimeskip.
Logia awakening
 
#18
Unlike most people in this thread, I wouldn't say these feats are more endurance than durability, because I don't know what to make of the Marco and Vista scene, they did no damage to him but he felt their attacks. So he does seem to have insane durability ontop of his endurance.

Oden who is a hyped born monster, fell from a basic cheapshot from Kaidou to the head. Akainu took on an enraged WB quakeshot from behind to his head and retaliated immediately. So his durability is up there for sure, there's only so much enduring you can do with a headshot, when your brain gets rattled it gets rattled, you can't just thug it out.

Maybe being a logia adds to his durability, or maybe it was haki but it's not something Oda drew clearly pretimeskip.
Exactly what’ I’ve also said

that’s a mix of both endurance and durability

with the first quake peaking more of durability than endurance

the 2nd quake peaked more of endurance than durability

The fact that he didn’t get knocked out from the 1st blindsided blow is really insane.
 
#19
No, Akainu does not have very high durability and resistance.

When he received Whitebeard's attack, Akainu was 100% fresh. This is different from Big Mom taking Law and Kid's final attack, which far surpasses Whitebeard's Gura Gura attack, and even before that, she admitted she was already tired.

So, a question: Could Akainu withstand the attack while openly declaring he’s already tired? No.
The other issue is that DC does not translate to AP; Gura Gura's attacks are overrated due to how they function/operate.
An example of this is Fujitora's Ferocious Tiger. It had decent DC and is a very flashy attack that makes it seem like a BIG move, but in the end, it failed to knock out a bandaged Dressrosa Luffy.



We could be here saying: Look at this destruction and great attack that Luffy withstood, his resistance is definitely very high.
While a Thunder Bagua from base Kaidou knocked out Luffy in a single strike.

Gura Gura works the same way with flashy attacks but it doesn't mean they are better than other non-flashy attacks that have greater power.
WB's attacks may have been bit exagerrated tbh. BB withstood an attack to his head. Akainu came back very fast after taking 2 attacks point blank. Akainu is top tier and BB has good endurance but still. Kaido and BM are eating couple of WB's attacks no problem.
 
#20
WB's attacks may have been bit exagerrated tbh. BB withstood an attack to his head. Akainu came back very fast after taking 2 attacks point blank. Akainu is top tier and BB has good endurance but still. Kaido and BM are eating couple of WB's attacks no problem.
BB is a bad example to scale someone down. Whatever his race is, it got gassed after we learned more about every other races, including lunarians, buccaneers, giants and so on
He highly likely can take on damage way more than a regular human ever could
 
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