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Also I know yall ain’t reading Boruto but they pretty much gone planetary by conquering planets and shit

OPverse as of rn combined stands NO chance against Naruto’s strongest villain

Also reminder Toneri, a 19-yr old Naruto victim, split the fucking moon in half
 
The way OP fans upscale OP’s AP/DC is so disgusting. Uranus and Pluton are literally just island level, and they’re treated as godly weapons. Yet you have some mouthbreathers who’ll tell you that Kaido, Luffy, etc are somehow continent level lol
Kaido vs Juubi is still the funniest thread ever.

Like Juubi one shots a hundred Crydo's with the first attack lmfao
 
You mean an Itachi who was this blind?

With a body he was forcing alive?

In fact Zetsu thought Itachi was seriously wounded and disappointed by this performance
With Obito even confirming sick dying Itachi was sandbagging

Hebi Sasuke beats almost all the mid tier Akatsuki as well and Sick Dying Sandbagging Itachi pushed Sasuke against a wall.

I’d say he’s fairly wanked given how nuts of a character he is and how 95% of Kage tier characters don’t even have good genjutsu feats to counter him
Well,what's your point? Itachi did get a sickness and never had EMS...
 
So? Nusjuro cut Egghead Island.
Kuzan froze the ocean which affected several islands. He's getting body bagged by OP top tiers.
He cut the upper portion, which was essentially a town on a cloud. And freezing a large area isn't exactly AP. Whitebeard using the earth quake fruit for an extended period of time couldn't sink Marineford, even with his last bloodlusted punch, he merely split the plateau. Madara swiping through a mountain range with one swing is definitely a great feat even for One Piece standards.
 
Bro, what Shanks did in chapter 1 is being badass. If haki existed proper he would knock the bandits out the second they touched luffy. There's characters like Crocodile and Lucci who should have Haki but didn't, and Blackbeard had an entire plotline about wanting the Yami Yami no mi to counter Logias, and even told ace he probably hadn't been hit in a while(because he's a logia). Blackbeard talking about luffy is a bad translation I'm pretty sure
He used conquerors haki in chapter 1. Be real.

Lucci did have haki. He was hitting Luffy with blunt attacks and dealing significant damage. He wasn't just biting and scratching and hitting finger pistols, half the shit he did including his ultimate attack was punching. Do things need to be spelled out with a narrator? You know how this stuff works. Luffy is established that blunt attacks can't hurt him. Lucci hurt him with blunt attacks. It's sure as shit not "fist of love."

Crocodile I think I've made a bunch of posts about this subject before, if not a thread. There's a scene in Alabasta where Crocodile thinks that Luffy has armament haki because he gets grabbed, and looks shocked and upset and has a sweat drop in the panel. Then after he gets pulled in and hit, he sees that Luffy is just using a tank of water and starts laughing at him. It has been established in the series that the strength of haki (as a power system) is directly proportionate to the strength of will (as in fighting spirit or dreams or whatever) of the haki user, and that losing your dreams or your will directly affects your power levels. Whitebeard's family was being torn apart in Marineford, and there are scenes specifically showing Whitebeard fail to use armament haki to hit the admirals in their logia form (kuzan even says "don't be ridiculous" when fodder goes "HE HIT HIM WITH PURE HAKI!!"), observation haki to tell Squard is behind him (this is a man who could defend from attacks in his sleep), conqueror's haki when trying to stop the execution (Luffy picks up the slack). This isn't because he's sick, it's because his entire life is his family, and he's failing to prevent his son from being taken away from him while his entire family goes to war and risks death for him too. He's losing everything and he knows it. Crocodile was utterly destroyed by Whitebeard (so he had haki to beat logias in the past) and his dreams were crushed, so he fell back to Paradise to be a small time casino and organized crime boss when he really dreamed of being Pirate King (as we learn in the Baroque Works cover story). By the time Crocodile returns to the story after regaining his dreams in that cover story, he's clashing with admirals and Mihawk and shrugging off Akainu's lava.

Blackbeard's entire Logia gimmick, that he EXPLAINS DURING THAT FIGHT, is that he still gets hit no matter what, because he's not that kind of logia, and darkness absorbs everything, even the inflicted pain. He goes on to say that because of his logia, he even feels MORE pain than usual, because of the unique qualities of the devil fruit, but he still thinks it's worth it because it's so powerful and special. When he says he hasn't been hit in a while, it is obviously not because he's a logia, it's because he is a very skilled fighter even without his devil fruits.

Blackbeard talking about Luffy's haki is the correct translation. You can prove this because Blackbeard references this dialogue later in Impel Down, the next time they meet.

"I thought 30 million was a little too low judging by his haki"

"Your haki is stronger than before."
 
Again, same can be said about Rayleigh prior to Sabaody… I don’t know what the difference here is?
Ray appears only one time in short Buggy fb.
And only with limited screentime and half baked design.
Coz Oda's gonna specifically introduced him in full detail later on.
What can we say about Gaban?? We've seen him in every Roger pirates flashback with other crewmember like the Fishman looking guy in the crew. Maybe lately Oda knows Gaban exist too and has something to do in the current story.
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He used conquerors haki in chapter 1. Be real.

Lucci did have haki. He was hitting Luffy with blunt attacks and dealing significant damage. He wasn't just biting and scratching and hitting finger pistols, half the shit he did including his ultimate attack was punching. Do things need to be spelled out with a narrator? You know how this stuff works. Luffy is established that blunt attacks can't hurt him. Lucci hurt him with blunt attacks. It's sure as shit not "fist of love."

Crocodile I think I've made a bunch of posts about this subject before, if not a thread. There's a scene in Alabasta where Crocodile thinks that Luffy has armament haki because he gets grabbed, and looks shocked and upset and has a sweat drop in the panel. Then after he gets pulled in and hit, he sees that Luffy is just using a tank of water and starts laughing at him. It has been established in the series that the strength of haki (as a power system) is directly proportionate to the strength of will (as in fighting spirit or dreams or whatever) of the haki user, and that losing your dreams or your will directly affects your power levels. Whitebeard's family was being torn apart in Marineford, and there are scenes specifically showing Whitebeard fail to use armament haki to hit the admirals in their logia form (kuzan even says "don't be ridiculous" when fodder goes "HE HIT HIM WITH PURE HAKI!!"), observation haki to tell Squard is behind him (this is a man who could defend from attacks in his sleep), conqueror's haki when trying to stop the execution (Luffy picks up the slack). This isn't because he's sick, it's because his entire life is his family, and he's failing to prevent his son from being taken away from him while his entire family goes to war and risks death for him too. He's losing everything and he knows it. Crocodile was utterly destroyed by Whitebeard (so he had haki to beat logias in the past) and his dreams were crushed, so he fell back to Paradise to be a small time casino and organized crime boss when he really dreamed of being Pirate King (as we learn in the Baroque Works cover story). By the time Crocodile returns to the story after regaining his dreams in that cover story, he's clashing with admirals and Mihawk and shrugging off Akainu's lava.

Blackbeard's entire Logia gimmick, that he EXPLAINS DURING THAT FIGHT, is that he still gets hit no matter what, because he's not that kind of logia, and darkness absorbs everything, even the inflicted pain. He goes on to say that because of his logia, he even feels MORE pain than usual, because of the unique qualities of the devil fruit, but he still thinks it's worth it because it's so powerful and special. When he says he hasn't been hit in a while, it is obviously not because he's a logia, it's because he is a very skilled fighter even without his devil fruits.

Blackbeard talking about Luffy's haki is the correct translation. You can prove this because Blackbeard references this dialogue later in Impel Down, the next time they meet.

"I thought 30 million was a little too low judging by his haki"

"Your haki is stronger than before."
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Can you guys believe Kaido makes fucking obito seem smart and competent. He actually started a world War without spending 28 years killing people for criticizing orochi
 
Legitimate question for you guys: Is Saint Shanks stronger than Shamrock? And if so, why exactly?

@Kurozumi Wiwi @MarineHQ @comrade no trolling please.

I see no reason for him to be weaker than Saint Shanks.

-Saint Shanks and Shamrock are twins, genetically they are basically the same human and thus should have likely inherited the same Haki. You can argue maybe Shamrock doesn’t have future sight or AdCoA which require training, but his CoC should absolutely be the same as Saint Shanks’s or at least similar.

-Shamrock as an active Holy Knight should train. Saint Shanks doesn’t really train at all, he mostly drinks and parties.

-Shamrock isn’t a cripple

-Even if you argue Saint Shanks who utilizes Roger’s fighting style is a more skilled fighter than Shamrock, Shamrock has a sword with a mythical Zoan fruit.

Seriously I can’t see any logical reason for Saint Shanks being stronger than Shamrock other than Saint Shanks just being Oda’s favorite character lol.
Until now Shamrock didn't get hyped in Haki like his twin, I think shamrock can be at best his equal but for narrative reasons etc. It would be safe to assume shanks will prove that his legacy made him stronger.
 
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