General & Others Oda saving Mihawk

#1

It’s often brought up how luffy was lucky mihawk was going easy on him but if you actually think about it mihawk tried way harder to kill luffy than luffy tried to even fight him


Mihawk was one of the first guys to even attack luffy while claiming he won’t hold back


Luffy didn’t even say he couldn’t beat mihawk just that he doesn’t have the time to fight him because he was focused on things that actually matter like ace


All things considered he was doing pretty well both evading and even tanking attacks


Mihawk refusing to let him go until some strong enough to stop him let luffy free

Man had the nerve to go after a distracted luffy again after being upset at witnessing his conquerors power




This time crocodile and daz stopping him and letting luffy free

What if oda wasn’t saving luffy from mihawk but mihawk from luffy?
:hope::jordanmf:


If you look at cross guild and to the left of buggy they were all luffy victims due to becoming fodder and giving up their true ambitions
  1. Luffy beat buggy
  2. Luffy beat crocodile
  3. Luffy beat Moria
Only one he didn’t beat was mihawk and looking back he might’ve been fodder to his prime self too. Now being able to be his true 1yc self with crocodile being 2yc and Moria the 3yc
:crazwhat:
 
#10
The nightmares keep persisting nothing seems to help therapy medication
And look at you not being able to counter Albinos thread , nothing he said was wrong he even shown panels to support whatever he’s said
But I dare you , if you can:seriously:
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It’s often brought up how luffy was lucky mihawk was going easy on him but if you actually think about it mihawk tried way harder to kill luffy than luffy tried to even fight him


Mihawk was one of the first guys to even attack luffy while claiming he won’t hold back


Luffy didn’t even say he couldn’t beat mihawk just that he doesn’t have the time to fight him because he was focused on things that actually matter like ace


All things considered he was doing pretty well both evading and even tanking attacks


Mihawk refusing to let him go until some strong enough to stop him let luffy free

Man had the nerve to go after a distracted luffy again after being upset at witnessing his conquerors power




This time crocodile and daz stopping him and letting luffy free

What if oda wasn’t saving luffy from mihawk but mihawk from luffy?
:hope::jordanmf:


If you look at cross guild and to the left of buggy they were all luffy victims due to becoming fodder and giving up their true ambitions
  1. Luffy beat buggy
  2. Luffy beat crocodile
  3. Luffy beat Moria
Only one he didn’t beat was mihawk and looking back he might’ve been fodder to his prime self too. Now being able to be his true 1yc self with crocodile being 2yc and Moria the 3yc
:crazwhat:
As you keep presenting more and more I realized I’ve forgotten how much more underwhelming Hawkeye actually is

Oda deadass does not view his importance alongside with top dogs, literally every time he’s shown somehow his importance is confirmed to be that much more underwhelming.
 
#11
Lmao, what did Croco even mean by he was in a hell of a mood lmfao. He had no investment in the war either way and Mihawk wasn't bothering him. Croco is probably the craziest guy in the entire manga
 
#12
I don't know what's so hard for people to understand about mihawk. Oda never let's the guy go all out because him going all out caps all the current swordsmen at that level. Oda saving mihawk for only zoro or maybe a eos villain. If mihawk went all out in mf then oda would have to either limit swordsmen to still fit under mihawk or make swordsmanship a weaker fighting style so even though characters are getting stronger the swordsmen wouldn't ever reach others peaks. Oda is still giving swordsmen new abilities. Example if mihawk went all out and we were confirmed he went all out and he didn't show adcoa now no current swordsmen can use adcoa on thier swords because mihawk couldn't. Allowing mihawk to go all out anywhere but near eos only limits the story as he is the cap for all swordsmen currently. Him not going all out allows oda to keep coming up with new abilities to give his characters. Mihawk will only go all out on panel once we reach the peak of the story where all swordsmen abilities will already been shown.
 
#13
And look at you not being able to counter Albinos thread , nothing he said was wrong he even shown panels to support whatever he’s said
But I dare you , if you can:seriously:
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As you keep presenting more and more I realized I’ve forgotten how much more underwhelming Hawkeye actually is

Oda deadass does not view his importance alongside with top dogs, literally every time he’s shown somehow his importance is confirmed to be that much more underwhelming.
They thought me saying he was just an average top tier was too mean and I thought I was being nice

Doflamingo was hands down the most important and influential og warlord. The secret 5th emperor before Luffy
:doffyou:

Unironically mihawk is the biggest obstacle when it comes to Zoro wank lol. While I don’t really wank zoro he 100% deserves better than mihawk as his biggest obstacle
That's true. I don't know why people say Luffy ran from Mihawk because he cannot beat him.

Luffy said he did not have time to deal with Mihawk because saving Ace was his top priority.

Remove Ace and Luffy would fight Mihawk without running.
In the bright side he still would’ve been able to hold his wss title since Luffy doesn’t even use a sword
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I don't know what's so hard for people to understand about mihawk. Oda never let's the guy go all out because him going all out caps all the current swordsmen at that level. Oda saving mihawk for only zoro or maybe a eos villain. If mihawk went all out in mf then oda would have to either limit swordsmen to still fit under mihawk or make swordsmanship a weaker fighting style so even though characters are getting stronger the swordsmen wouldn't ever reach others peaks. Oda is still giving swordsmen new abilities. Example if mihawk went all out and we were confirmed he went all out and he didn't show adcoa now no current swordsmen can use adcoa on thier swords because mihawk couldn't. Allowing mihawk to go all out anywhere but near eos only limits the story as he is the cap for all swordsmen currently. Him not going all out allows oda to keep coming up with new abilities to give his characters. Mihawk will only go all out on panel once we reach the peak of the story where all swordsmen abilities will already been shown.
Not going all out doesn’t mean you have to look like shit

Oda was holding back the admirals, shanks, whitebeard, dragon, and even characters like Doflamingo Hancock etc pre timeskip too not just mihawk. Stopping them all from showing their true power
At the same time none of them were put in nearly as many situations where they looked like ass

Oda was even going out of his way to explain that the admirals weren’t about to go all out due to the location
:kayneshrug:
 
#16
I feel like Oda thinks that by not showing Mihawk's abilities properly he keeps readers more interested in Zoro's dream and Mihawk himself. He wants Mihawk to have an aura of mystery. But manga is too long and Mihawk doing nothing particularly interesting since his first appearance feels frustrating sometimes.
 
#17
I feel like Oda thinks that by not showing Mihawk's abilities properly he keeps readers more interested in Zoro's dream and Mihawk himself. He wants Mihawk to have an aura of mystery. But manga is too long and Mihawk doing nothing particularly interesting since his first appearance feels frustrating sometimes.
It was a genius move to not show any named attack from Mihawk during the pre-timeskip, seeing how much Oda has power-crept his own early iterations of certain characters. Had he showed Mihawk do anything impressive, it would have set a ceiling on what Zoro could do during his fights, in effect limiting him until the right moment came to surpass Mihawk.
 
#19
It was a genius move to not show any named attack from Mihawk during the pre-timeskip, seeing how much Oda has power-crept his own early iterations of certain characters. Had he showed Mihawk do anything impressive, it would have set a ceiling on what Zoro could do during his fights, in effect limiting him until the right moment came to surpass Mihawk.
Exactly, that’s the problem with Shonen, the longer they run the more impressive feats subsequent characters have to show to keep readers hooked and in retrospect the earlier characters get power-creeped into oblivion.

Had one piece been a 5 year running series then Corcodile was Yonko level.
 
#20
They thought me saying he was just an average top tier was too mean and I thought I was being nice

Doflamingo was hands down the most important and influential og warlord. The secret 5th emperor before Luffy
:doffyou:

Unironically mihawk is the biggest obstacle when it comes to Zoro wank lol. While I don’t really wank zoro he 100% deserves better than mihawk as his biggest obstacle

In the bright side he still would’ve been able to hold his wss title since Luffy doesn’t even use a sword
:endthis:

Not going all out doesn’t mean you have to look like shit

Oda was holding back the admirals, shanks, whitebeard, dragon, and even characters like Doflamingo Hancock etc pre timeskip too not just mihawk. Stopping them all from showing their true power
At the same time none of them were put in nearly as many situations where they looked like ass

Oda was even going out of his way to explain that the admirals weren’t about to go all out due to the location
:kayneshrug:
Every top tier has bad feats, kaido jabbing to rocks, bm constantly getting memed, kizaru getting pushed around by Marco, kuzan bleeding to jozu, garp getting dropped to 1% hp from a basic stab, sengoku not being able to damage pre time skip luffy, etc. All the top tier in mf were fighting way harder than mihawk. Mihawk had no real narrative place as wb was the only one he cwould completely fodderlize if he fought seriously. All the admirals had more narrative purpose to fight wb which is why they all did at some point. Garp sengoku and mihawk had less narrative purpose to fight him which is why none did. If mf was written with all of them being serious the wb pirates would have gotten wiped out in 10 minutes amd luffy would have died so mf top tiers had to be held back. All top tiers have bad showing because oda doesn't make his top tiers complete monsters but have quirks about them that let's other characters take advantage of them. Mihawks is he only uses necessary power to fight his opponent. He fights down to his competition which is why a east blue zoro could have a full fight with him and didn't get instantly fodderlize. Oda gave him that type of personality to preserve him going all out while still keep him respectable as he will always fight to the level of competition. That's like saying kaido looks bad because his quirk is letting characters hit him to judge how worthy they are. Mihawk is never going to just go all out and he's always going to fight to the level of his opponent that's his personality and it doesn't make him look bad for doing it. Oda can't let mihawk go all out because him doing that caps the story. And in mf if mihawk took out Vista wbp lose a huge piece of thier army and if he took out luffy the story is over. Mihawk couldn't take out either for narrative purpose so oda used the quirk in his personality to make him fight to their level just to progress the story. It's not that serious anybody with half a brain knows if mihawk was serious he would have easily killed luffy or Vista but not only could he not for the story but it isn't in his personality to just go all out and kill someone.
 
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