Speculations The dragon and the winged creature are the same entity

#42
) the voice of the fragmented moon. They were carved by the Kozuki, whose name means Moonlight- the voice of the Kozuki. They are fragmented, one story broken up into twenty odd different pieces. The Kozuki telling the story, splitting it up and hiding it away.
Yes I also think the fragmented moon are the scattered d clan allies.

I am not sure whether the left most panel shows the second world or 3rd world. It is possible that both winged monsters are same entity or different gods.
Or it's the power one gets after eating this particular DF. Luffy also looks like Joyboy's silhouette because both ate the same fruit but are distinct people.
 
#43
Plus this doesn’t answer the question of why Imu is trying to flood the world. It would seem from this chapter like Imu is flooding the world to keep the original flame demon or whatever flooded under the ocean. So in that instance, the original flame demon would have to be worse than Imu if Imu is flooding the whole world to keep the thing buried.
Im wants to rule the world not flood it, however over usage of Ancient Weapons causes the flooding, the original world was likely a big ass land mass.
 
#44
Which in the OP world is basically child sized anyway lmfao.



My problem with this is that the final villain from OP shouldn’t just be some fledgling who inherited the will of the original evil or whatever, it should be the original evil itself.

Like imagine if in Naruto the final battle wasn’t against Kaguya but against a pretender using the Kaguya Justu. Madara never returned, instead the 4th Shinobi War was against a Madara fanboy utilizing the same jutsus Madara used. It loses something right?

If Imu isn’t the primordial evil but is just an inheritor, it would just suck imo.

Plus this doesn’t answer the question of why Imu is trying to flood the world. It would seem from this chapter like Imu is flooding the world to keep the original flame demon or whatever flooded under the ocean. So in that instance, the original flame demon would have to be worse than Imu if Imu is flooding the whole world to keep the thing buried.
Isnt that kind of the same thing though? Luffy gets called Nika, and who knows what happens in the endgame. Imu is still the primordial evil if he inherited it. Its like Link, Zelda and Ganon. They are the same, but different in each game throughout the ages.

In OP this is through the inherentance of Devil Fruits. I dont think we can really compare this shit to Naruto because of that lol
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#50
Its like Link, Zelda and Ganon. They are the same, but different in each game throughout the ages.
No, actually. @Sentinel fact check me.

Link and Zelda are different in every single Zelda game. They may all inherit the same Triforces but every Link and Zelda are different people.

Only Ganondorf is the exact same being in every Zelda game. It is the same evil figure born into the world in a different form time and time again.

This is because fantasy fiction loses something when you propose the scenario that you and Fuji describe. A bunch of different Ganon’s being born into a bunch of different eras is less impactful than the same Ganon plaguing the world time and time again.

Meanwhile, it is the heroes/good guys who are reborn as different beings inheriting the same destiny.

I’m telling yall now, Imu simply inheriting primordial evil is less impactful than us actually having to fight the primordial evil itself.
 
#51
Plus this doesn’t answer the question of why Imu is trying to flood the world. It would seem from this chapter like Imu is flooding the world to keep the original flame demon or whatever flooded under the ocean.
Or the ancient weapons.

So in that instance, the original flame demon would have to be worse than Imu if Imu is flooding the whole world to keep the thing buried.
And if the original flame demon is worse than Imu, Imu has to be an inheritor of the original power and not the original God itself.

If Imu isn’t the primordial evil but is just an inheritor, it would just suck imo.
But it would make sense if it went like this:
First there was only the earth God, humans somehow were oppressed and enslaved by it, they wished the sun God into existence. Earth was the bad guy, sun became the good guy.
In the second world, sun God spread war and was the bad guy, Earth was the good guy.
In world three it's reversed once more.
I personality like this more than a simple good sun vs evil earth plot.
 
#52
No, actually. @Sentinel fact check me.

Link and Zelda are different in every single Zelda game. They may all inherit the same Triforces but every Link and Zelda are different people.

Only Ganondorf is the exact same being in every Zelda game. It is the same evil figure born into the world in a different form time and time again.

This is because fantasy fiction loses something when you propose the scenario that you and Fuji describe. A bunch of different Ganon’s being born into a bunch of different eras is less impactful than the same Ganon plaguing the world time and time again.

Meanwhile, it is the heroes/good guys who are reborn as different beings inheriting the same destiny.

I’m telling yall now, Imu simply inheriting primordial evil is less impactful than us actually having to fight the primordial evil itself.
Thats fine I wasnt trying to explicitly state the Zelda thing as fact lol.

I dont agree about Imu though, its as impactful as Luffy being modern day Nika. We just learned there even is a Primordial Evil lol, whether its Imu inheriting it or stopping anyone from reaching it is another guess entirely.
 
#53
Or the ancient weapons.

And if the original flame demon is worse than Imu, Imu has to be an inheritor of the original power and not the original God itself.


But it would make sense if it went like this:
First there was only the earth God, humans somehow were oppressed and enslaved by it, they wished the sun God into existence. Earth was the bad guy, sun became the good guy.
In the second world, sun God spread war and was the bad guy, Earth was the good guy.
In world three it's reversed once more.
I personality like this more than a simple good sun vs evil earth plot.
Imu is literally earth lol, the gorosei are the other planets and Luffy is the sun its not that hard to understand lol @Sentinel
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#58
Thats fine I wasnt trying to explicitly state the Zelda thing as fact lol.
It suits my example perfectly.

The evil should not reincarnate, the evil should be the original evil itself. It is the heroes who should reincarnate. That is the trope. Lol

I dont agree about Imu though, its as impactful as Luffy being modern day Nika. We just learned there even is a Primordial Evil lol, whether its Imu inheriting it or stopping anyone from reaching it is another guess entirely.
It is 100% less impactful if Imu is not the primordial evil.

Essentially arguing that Imu being a reincarnation of an ancient evil is like arguing that Luffy shouldn’t defeat the actual evil itself, he should only defeat an imitation of that evil.

It’s the difference between arguing that Link defeating a guy dressed up as Ganondorf is just as impactful as Link defeating Ganondorf. It simply does not work at all.
 
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