Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1139 Spoilers Discussion

[kekaro]

Sanjibros tonight we wake up

We Zoro fans became Sanji fans the prophecy fulfilled

 

[Moegara]

Jyabura was just as big as Kaku in his Hybrid form lol

Well, yeah, read the next sentence you cut out.

Edit: And I said that thinking of real world giraffes.

 

[L57]

Whose dog is this? It’s trying to bark at people again.

Be hyped while you can

 

[grey matter]

Since Gaban was stated to be the same level of Rayleigh and Roger, Sanji is going to magically catch up to Zoro despite Zoro currently mid diffing him in your opinion?

That literally makes no sense. Zoro and Sanji have always gained their power ups at the same time and grown side by side lmao. No Sanji isn’t going to magically jump tiers

Yes, the gaps fluctuate.

Same story applies to Luffy/Zoro too.

Post TS Luffy and post TS Zoro were in same tier
Post WCI Luffy would mid-high diff Zoro at the same time.
But in rooftop, Luffy and Zoro were comparable again.
Since rooftop, Luffy got 3 powerups (including his "peak" G5), while Zoro got 2. At the moment, Luffy upper mid-high diff Zoro.
But at EoS, they will be close again.

I see no issue with this.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This is disingenuous.
Kaido statement - only handful of the strongest
Luffy statement - my attacks were to shallow
Zoro statement - it makes sense for me to have this if I want to be the strongest.

Cool

Zoro still only ended up beating a guy who was rivals with the guy Sanji beat

Kidd has CoC and couldn’t unlock advCoC but he awakened his DF that should tell you which is the bigger boost in power and which is harder to achieve.

This is meaningless. Zoro doesn’t have a DF and Kid didn’t get haki training.

Nothing suggests Zoro created a massive gap between himself and either his rivals or Luffy’s rivals

 

[Hunter]

If sanji can use conqueror haki... a los of people will cry.

The gaban equal to roger and rayleigh thing is basically their 9/11

 

[Blazing Lion]

I disagree, and think there will be a gap between Luffy/Zoro as well, not matter how low.

But anyway, as long as you think the gap between Zoro/Sanji at EoS won't be high enough to the point Sanji gets low or mid diff'd, that's respectable.
They will be close in power, the big gap that exists now will become narrower



So much out of context here.

- Doriki measures physical power. When Lucci/Jabra were physical combatants, while Kaku was a swordsman. Plus, Kaku didn't have his DF back then (we know zoan DFs have an impact on base as well). Lucci/Kaku dynamics was established back then (which is still active!) for a reason
- Lucci was actually a bit stronger than Luffy, and Luffy needed extreme diff + PoF to beat him, was KO for days afterwards. Zoro and Sanji high diff'd their opponents, had more energy to spare.

Same manga had Luffy/Zoro fight in wiskey peak and fight to an even. I can pull up more Luffy/Zoro portrayals than you can pull up Zoro/Sanji portrayals.
We can all cherry pick what we want to push agendas, but when overall picture is looked at unbiased, it establishes portrayal/dynamics between Luffy/Zoro (captain/partner), Zoro/Sanji (two strongest underlings), Luffy/Zoro/Sanji (monster trio)

How low can you go?

 

[Light D Fist.]

Il

He didn't want him to join cause of strength it's because Kidd has CoC, Kaido wanted to break his will he wanted to do the same to Luffy.

AND again you're not answering my question.

"Kaido lost to Luffy's awakening and H___" (giving you a hint still a 4 letter word)

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LMAO that works too

Yes but Haki transcends all why would he need anything else?! oh wait was it because it wasn’t true.

Zoro nearly died using ‘Oden’s hak - I mean ACoC. Luffy was able to use it without fail and then stacked it on to his awakening which was the game changer. Not haki but his awakening.
If you think Zoro’s strongest attack was anything comparable to what G5 Luffy did you are a fucking idiot.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

 

[Hiragaro]

Well, yeah, read the next sentence you cut out.

Why would you even say that, when the sizes here are not like in real world lol

Jyabura was a big as Kaku in Hybrid, so mentioning the size of a Giraffe compared to wolfs in real life is pointless.

 

[grey matter]

How low can you go?

Doesn't matter, as long as it exists

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I remember when ZKK supporters had to wear this lmao

 

[Moegara]

Why would you even say that, when the sizes here are not like in real world lol

Jyabura was a big as Kaku in Hybrid, so mentioning the size of a Giraffe compared to wolfs in real life is pointless.

Holy shit, you're thick.

 

[Blazing Lion]

This is exactly what I feel it is, people are significantly underestimating Roger.

If anyone said Gaban = prime Whitebeard they'd get laughed out of the internet. High top-tier ACoC, a high top-tier DF, top-tier CoO/CoA, high top-tier blade, high top-tier endurance - that man maxed out damn near every stat... Primebeard is straight up shitting on 99.9% of the OP verse and everybody knows it.

Roger was equal to that man. Oldbeard was still introduced as the WSM by the narrator. Imagine that, a high top-tier in his old age when even the likes of Garp, Sengoku and Rayleigh dropped to low top-tier. No one apart from Roger was close to Primebeard except maybe Xebec. Rayleigh and Garp were probably a similar level and neither is pushing Whitebeard nor Roger past high-diff. Some random line in a brief summary from leakers about Gaban being on the same level as Roger isn't gonna change that, and anyone who thinks it does needs to put the vaseline down and at least wait for the full chapter.

Well I dont agree with everything you said but the Roger = Rayleigh = Gaban thing is unbelievable. 3 Rogers at GV or against any crew is OP.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Giants are naive
Zorolina and Sanjino are biggest frauds of this manga

 

[Moegara]

I remember when ZKK supporters had to wear this lmao

They bet on that?

 

[Blazing Lion]

Doesn't matter, as long as it exists

Thats some desperate gatekeeping going on

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

They bet on that?

Yep lol

 

[Flagandhat]

The gaban equal to roger and rayleigh thing is basically their 9/11

My ex girlfriend said that sanji will never be in the level of zoro (Now I am happy about that words)... Now Gaban being equal to roger and rayleigh... We have the monster trio until the end of one piece

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes, the gaps fluctuate.

Same story applies to Luffy/Zoro too.

Post TS Luffy and post TS Zoro were in same tier
Post WCI Luffy would mid-high diff Zoro at the same time.
But in rooftop, Luffy and Zoro were comparable.
Since rooftop, Luffy got 3 powerups (including his "peak" G5), while Zoro got 2. At the moment, Luffy upper mid-high diff Zoro.
But at EoS, they will be close again.

I see no issue with this.

The gap does not fluctuate that much.
The monster trio went into the time skip the same level, the monster trio returned from the timeskip the same level.

If Oda had Luffy fight either of them right now he’d write the fight as extreme diff Luffy would win going all out and would immediately gas out afterwards, cause that’s just how Oda sees the monster trio evident from Roger Rayleigh and Gaban who are the benchmarks for Luffy Zoro and Sanji for when Luffy lands on Raftel

Thinking Oda created gaps then removed them randomly is why people think characters power levels get retconned all the time.