Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1139 : “The Mountain Eater”
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I think the theory World Govt secretly controlled Elbaf is holding true .
Harald’s throne room is inclining to me WG previously had contacts with him it’s no wonder Shamrock appeared directly in throne room .
I am starting to feel iffy about Jarul he is not telling the complete truth about Harald’s assassination . What if Harald was actually killed by Shamrock not Loki himself .
Harald’s throne room is inclining to me WG previously had contacts with him it’s no wonder Shamrock appeared directly in throne room .
I am starting to feel iffy about Jarul he is not telling the complete truth about Harald’s assassination . What if Harald was actually killed by Shamrock not Loki himself .
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Kind of, I think you all are taking that thing too literally, it doesn't exact mean that ray and scopper are equal to roger, but sure they are comparable figures, but the thing that no one could mimic Kamusari implies that Shanks is on Roger's level completely because I don't think oda was referring to sunbell when he said no one but every single crewmate.
This is a funny chapter, now i will discuss for real, this chapter shows a lot of things :
Firstly, Gaban is said to be the left-handman of Roger, a legendary figure, and mountain eater a title he got from cutting fucking trees :
In comparison, Rayleigh is introduced as Roger's right-hand man, partner, and vice-captain, bearing the title of "Dark King," for his strength following Roger's title as the "Pirate King."
> Even the Straw Hats knew about Rayleigh in the same way they knew about Roger, yet they don't recognize Scopper :
> Scopper tried to attack a fodder like Road yet he dodged his attack :
> His presence is insignificant to Luffy and Zoro. Keep in mind that when Luffy was at Egghead, he was seen shivering from Kizaru's presence and even said someone strong was coming—something that wasn't observed with Old Gaban which makes his threat below Admiral level :
> The same Kizaru couldn't get past Old Rayleigh and complained about how the latter demanded more than this, which made him look bad. He became enraged afterward and vented his frustration on fodders.
That alone places Old Rayleigh on Admiral level as a threat, unlike Old Gaban :
> Gaban was so scared of Kaido that he didn't muster the courage to visit Wano because of his presence since years ago, the same Kaido Prime Oden was about to beat, same oden was said to be Whitebeard's commander :
> His best hype in Elbaf is holding his own against fodder giants, not Dorry or Broggy. Hell, Gaban allied with giants, yet they couldn't stop Loki, who is stated to have been caught by Shanks with no mention of Shanks having difficulty while doing so :
> Imagine having an army of giants and help from Old Rayleigh, who could completely stop Kizaru. His CoC was hyped to be on Shanks's level, and he had a Prime Emperor sweating and retreating in his presence—though it was known that the said emperor would win, but with a heavy cost yet you want me to believe he would fail to stop Loki with help, the same person who Shanks packed :
So in comparison :
> Old Rayleigh greatly surpasses Old Gaban in fame, strength, threat, portrayal, and even titles.
( mind you Oden didn't even mention his name in his diary unlike Rayleigh and Roger )
- As a bonus, These giants named FODDER like Usopp " God Usopp ", the Same losers who fell for "Yeah we got your chiefs in our prison come work for us for 100 years and we'll free them" with 0 proof :
- This made me think about that lie of Moria had an equal clash against Kaido :
• There's no such a thing like " rivaling Rayleigh " in the raws.
その男は副船長シルバーズ・レイリーと並び、海賊王の左腕と呼ばれた "
"That man was called the Pirate King's left hand."
"He was known as the left-hand man of the Pirate King, alongside Vice Captain Silvers Rayleigh."
その男は (sono otoko wa) = "That man"
副船長 (fukusenchō) = "Vice Captain."
シルバーズ・レイリー (Shirubāzu Reirī) = "Silvers Rayleigh"
と並び (to narabi) = "Alongside" or "together with."
海賊王 (kaizoku-ō) = "Pirate King."
の左腕 (no hidariude) = "Left arm"
と呼ばれた (to yobareta) = "Was called" or "was known as."
the key word is と並び which means alongside / together with :
と = with
並び = Together / Alongside
• Also, about the kanji that's used to describe Scopper's relationship with Rayleigh's and Roger's was " 肩を並べる ".
Sandman said that it doesn't mean " Equal to " and he showed examples of Arlong and Jimbei, Oden with Rogerbeard.
Sandman a native japanese who corrected Viz mistranslations.
Anyway, this just shows how much of a fodder EoS Sanji would become when his parallel in old age and with the help of giants, he failed to stop Loki, who Shanks defeated.
And mind you, EoS Zoro is the WSS ever, and Luffy is going to be the Liberator Nika.
Even Old Rayleigh wouldn't be put like this in Elbaf, whose threat even makes admirals waver.
Firstly, Gaban is said to be the left-handman of Roger, a legendary figure, and mountain eater a title he got from cutting fucking trees :
To repeat their titles:
Pirate King = Standing above all pirates
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain
Pirate King = Standing above all pirates
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain
> Even the Straw Hats knew about Rayleigh in the same way they knew about Roger, yet they don't recognize Scopper :
> Scopper tried to attack a fodder like Road yet he dodged his attack :
> His presence is insignificant to Luffy and Zoro. Keep in mind that when Luffy was at Egghead, he was seen shivering from Kizaru's presence and even said someone strong was coming—something that wasn't observed with Old Gaban which makes his threat below Admiral level :
> The same Kizaru couldn't get past Old Rayleigh and complained about how the latter demanded more than this, which made him look bad. He became enraged afterward and vented his frustration on fodders.
That alone places Old Rayleigh on Admiral level as a threat, unlike Old Gaban :
> Gaban was so scared of Kaido that he didn't muster the courage to visit Wano because of his presence since years ago, the same Kaido Prime Oden was about to beat, same oden was said to be Whitebeard's commander :
> His best hype in Elbaf is holding his own against fodder giants, not Dorry or Broggy. Hell, Gaban allied with giants, yet they couldn't stop Loki, who is stated to have been caught by Shanks with no mention of Shanks having difficulty while doing so :
> Imagine having an army of giants and help from Old Rayleigh, who could completely stop Kizaru. His CoC was hyped to be on Shanks's level, and he had a Prime Emperor sweating and retreating in his presence—though it was known that the said emperor would win, but with a heavy cost yet you want me to believe he would fail to stop Loki with help, the same person who Shanks packed :
So in comparison :
> Old Rayleigh greatly surpasses Old Gaban in fame, strength, threat, portrayal, and even titles.
( mind you Oden didn't even mention his name in his diary unlike Rayleigh and Roger )
Pirate King = Standing above all pirates
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain
- As a bonus, These giants named FODDER like Usopp " God Usopp ", the Same losers who fell for "Yeah we got your chiefs in our prison come work for us for 100 years and we'll free them" with 0 proof :
- This made me think about that lie of Moria had an equal clash against Kaido :
• There's no such a thing like " rivaling Rayleigh " in the raws.
その男は副船長シルバーズ・レイリーと並び、海賊王の左腕と呼ばれた "
"That man was called the Pirate King's left hand."
"He was known as the left-hand man of the Pirate King, alongside Vice Captain Silvers Rayleigh."
その男は (sono otoko wa) = "That man"
副船長 (fukusenchō) = "Vice Captain."
シルバーズ・レイリー (Shirubāzu Reirī) = "Silvers Rayleigh"
と並び (to narabi) = "Alongside" or "together with."
海賊王 (kaizoku-ō) = "Pirate King."
の左腕 (no hidariude) = "Left arm"
と呼ばれた (to yobareta) = "Was called" or "was known as."
the key word is と並び which means alongside / together with :
と = with
並び = Together / Alongside
• Also, about the kanji that's used to describe Scopper's relationship with Rayleigh's and Roger's was " 肩を並べる ".
Sandman said that it doesn't mean " Equal to " and he showed examples of Arlong and Jimbei, Oden with Rogerbeard.
Sandman a native japanese who corrected Viz mistranslations.
Anyway, this just shows how much of a fodder EoS Sanji would become when his parallel in old age and with the help of giants, he failed to stop Loki, who Shanks defeated.
And mind you, EoS Zoro is the WSS ever, and Luffy is going to be the Liberator Nika.
Even Old Rayleigh wouldn't be put like this in Elbaf, whose threat even makes admirals waver.
How is it this difficult to distinguish between servants willingly doing Nami's bidding of their own free will because they like her, versus slaves being forced to do things against their will?
The Japanese raw text and the official Viz translation both have Nami say "servant" and yet "slave" is still being spread around lol
The Japanese raw text and the official Viz translation both have Nami say "servant" and yet "slave" is still being spread around lol
