Le Fishe Thread The Ls of the ZBoys

[Gyro]

Zoro not saying himself doesn't change much, Oda already said his goal to him three swords was to make him greater than Musahi, him surpassing all swordsman is just a matter of time

So it's your headcanon lol

Ryuma does have better portrayal, the nickname was given to him due to his feats of protecting Wano and forging a black and slaying a dragon, Oden is nowhere near Ryuma within Wano. He's closer to Hyogoro than he is to Ryuma.

These "feats" don't point to a better portrayal than Oden (Oden Clashing with WB , tanking DD from Roger, Scaring Kaido are easily better feats) , even if I humored you a little , at least ryuma's feats definitely don't portray him as massively above Oden which is the point .

 

[nik87]

Now since Oda has Luffy = zoro = sanji established, there should be less toxicity regarding the powerlevels and stupid things like PK level, triggers of power, BLACK BLADE, SWORD Lethality etc should be sidelined, because we know at the end these 3 will be equal to each other no matter who achieves what.

We are happy for our sanji bros.
Now since it is confirmed that L = Z = S, At EOS Worlds strongest Mihawk will be surpassed by both Sanji and Luffy.

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Mihawk awaits zoro at the top to surpass his blacl blade (Now defaulted to luffy and sanji too)

I will let PKbros struggle for a little while longer before I explain why this doesn't apply to Zoro, Luffy and Sanji.
One thing is certain tho, EOS Sanji is so-called "PK level". There is no wiggling out of that one anymore.

 

[Chrono]

Its ok we Zboys will stand through this.

 

[Wizak08]

So it's your headcanon lol

Headcannon isn't saying something obvious.

These "feats" don't point to a better portrayal than Oden (Oden Clashing with WB , tanking DD from Roger, Scaring Kaido are easily better feats) , even if I humored you a little , at least ryuma's feats definitely don't portray him as massively above Oden which is the point .

We're talking about portrayal, his portrayal is that he's the sword god something that Oden isn't. Clashing with WB who at most using basic haki isn't any different that Zoro pushing back Kaido's club couple times before Ashura. He got blitzed by Roger that was holding back, his feat against Kaido isn't better than Ryuma giving the Wano samurai their reputation and protecting it from World Nobles.

 

[Gyro]

Headcannon isn't saying something obvious.

something obvious = something you literally made up

We're talking about portrayal, his portrayal is that he's the sword god something that Oden isn't. Clashing with WB who at most using basic haki isn't any different that Zoro pushing back Kaido's club couple times before Ashura. He got blitzed by Roger that was holding back, his feat against Kaido isn't better than Ryuma giving the Wano samurai their reputation and protecting it from World Nobles.

You can't scale based on nicknames. I never said Oden's feats are amazing; it's just that they are clearly better than Ryuma's. Who said the World Nobles are strong ?

 

[Wizak08]

something obvious = something you literally made up

One statement is in the manga, the other is from Oda stating it. What else could surpassing the guy that was known as the greatest ever and wanting ones name to be so great, it reaches haven mean othe than being the greatest ever?

You can't scale based on nicknames. I never said Oden's feats are amazing; it's just that they are clearly better than Ryuma's. Who said the World Nobles are strong ?

The nickname came after those feats. The work nobles are protected by the Holy knights and the elders, it's obvious who that statement is referring to.

 

[Sentry22]

What L in this chapter? Lol

And, look at some of the 🤡 arguing what happened in the chapter doesn't apply on Luffy.


Roger - Ray - Gaban aren't M3 ceilings.

What chapter said is Roger - Ray and Gaban were relative to each other - more or less equal.


This kind of implies M3 would be relative in strength as well.

If Luffy's ceiling is Joyboy then Zoro and Sanji would almost be on par.


Luffy>~Zoro >~ Sanji with extreme diff EoS

Translators would disagree that anything said this chapter relates to strength. Maybe relative in terms of legendary status.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanji stans? Yeah.

Maybe now they can stop being desperate about Zoro being a bum alongside Sanji, and actually start wanking Sanji into being Luffy tier or whatever.


Do you wanna bet actual money?

Let's go over threads that compare Luffy/Zoro/Sanji

If you genuinely think people who were saying Zoro ~ Sanji weren't also saying Luffy >> both, you're lying to yourself or frankly retarded. Take a pick.

Not all who said Zoro ~ Sanji believed Luffy >> both

 

[Franosuke]

Tbf if you really want to see who took the L we can do a headcount and quickly see which fanbase has been MIA since Tuesday

 

[Gyro]

One statement is in the manga, the other is from Oda stating it. What else could surpassing the guy that was known as the greatest ever and wanting ones name to be so great, it reaches haven mean othe than being the greatest ever?
.

Which statement is in the manga?

I only remember Oda saying something like Zoro was partially inspired by Musashi. I don't recall anything else. Do you have a source, or is that also headcanon?

Also, who said Musashi is the greatest swordsman to ever live?

The nickname came after those feats. The work nobles are protected by the Holy knights and the elders, it's obvious who that statement is referring to.

Then you can't use the nickname to scale, since these feats definitely don't paint a picture of "godhood."

How do you know the Holy Knights and Elders were involved or even tried to get involved?

Heck, can you prove the Holy Knights and Elders were anywhere near as strong as the current ones?

Actually, can you even prove they existed back then?

All I'm hearing is headcanon.

 

[mly90]

Tbf if you really want to see who took the L we can do a headcount and quickly see which fanbase has been MIA since Tuesday

All the focus on zoro fandom is perfect smoke screen for the mc fanboys lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

All the focus on zoro fandom is perfect smoke screen for the mc fanboys lmao

Cry

 

[Wizak08]

Which statement is in the manga?

I'm talking about Zoro saying his name will be so great it'll reach even heaven

I only remember Oda saying something like Zoro was partially inspired by Musashi. I don't recall anything else. Do you have a source, or is that also headcanon?


Also, who said Musashi is the greatest swordsman to ever live?

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1706274897968627889?t=VUWsjCAOkSpr-HRV89Ubkg&s=19

Then you can't use the nickname to scale, since these feats definitely don't paint a picture of "godhood."

How do you know the Holy Knights and Elders were involved or even tried to get involved?

Heck, can you prove the Holy Knights and Elders were anywhere near as strong as the current ones?

Actually, can you even prove they existed back then?

All I'm hearing is headcanon.

We know that Saturn was alive for at least 200 years per Egghead, not out of realm that others lived just as long if not longer. The World Nobles be use their own air bubbles when walking anywhere below Marjioa so them going to Wano makes no sense. It don't matter if the WG is weaker now than it was before, they still had the manpower to overcome Joyboy and his allies. As for the feats? Who says they weaker. Shusui was immediately traded for Enma by Oden's daughter without second thought, it's easily clear that Ryuma's portrayal in Wano is far above Oden.

 

[kekaro]

All the focus on zoro fandom is perfect smoke screen for the mc fanboys lmao

Fenaker liking this post is diabolical terrorism

 

[Franosuke]

Fenaker liking this post is diabolical terrorism

Bro forgot he's the one who created the smokescreen for them

 

[kekaro]

Bro forgot he's the one who created the smokescreen for them

For real i did argue with more luffy fans the past 3 days then him

 

[zenox]

Bro forgot he's the one who created the smokescreen for them

chadnaker took all the slander to protect roofybros

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

chadnaker took all the slander to protect roofybros

Like Nika, he's here to protect Rubberboys

 

[Gyro]

I'm talking about Zoro saying his name will be so great it'll reach even heaven

It could just mean that he would be that famous and well-known.

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1706274897968627889?t=VUWsjCAOkSpr-HRV89Ubkg&s=19

Do you know the number of the SBS? Just to check if it's true.

Even then, I wouldn't take it too literally since that was at the beginning of One Piece, and we all know Oda didn't plan that far ahead, also the statement didn't say zoro will be the best ever in one piece world , He even called it childish, so according to him, it shouldn't be taken seriously.

We know that Saturn was alive for at least 200 years per Egghead, not out of realm that others lived just as long if not longer. The World Nobles be use their own air bubbles when walking anywhere below Marjioa so them going to Wano makes no sense. It don't matter if the WG is weaker now than it was before, they still had the manpower to overcome Joyboy and his allies. As for the feats? Who says they weaker. Shusui was immediately traded for Enma by Oden's daughter without second thought, it's easily clear that Ryuma's portrayal in Wano is far above Oden.

You can't claim facts and then make assumptions to prove them. You're just continuously presenting headcanons, which is fine, but don't claim they're facts.

Also, we don't know how they overcame Joyboy.

How do you know the Holy Knights and Elders were involved or even tried to get involved?

Heck, can you prove the Holy Knights and Elders were anywhere near as strong as the current ones?

Actually, can you even prove they existed back then?

 

[Wizak08]

It could just mean that he would be that famous and well-known.


Do you know the number of the SBS? Just to check if it's true.

Even then, I wouldn't take it too literally since that was at the beginning of One Piece, and we all know Oda didn't plan that far ahead, also the statement didn't say zoro will be the best ever in one piece world , He even called it childish, so according to him, it shouldn't be taken seriously.

I don't have the number. What he's calling childish is choosing the an extra sword to make even greater and not the general idea

You can't claim facts and then make assumptions to prove them. You're just continuously presenting headcanons, which is fine, but don't claim they're facts.

Also, we don't know how they overcame Joyboy.

I'm not claiming anything, if those World Nobles that were sent were just bums then I don't see the point of Oda adding it there.