Speculations So it seems like Scopper is also the Man with the Burn Scar

[Garp the Fist]

I don’t think all players are going after that specific RP, they’ll be involved in the final war but not all are going after the one piece necessarily. For example Shanks might already have it and he and BB could fight for it, Dragon and the revs are not going for it but will take advantage of the HKs involvement in elbaf to attack the WG etc

I’m mostly curious for what it means for Elbaf the arc.

Right now, the threat isn’t really there. Shamrock, Gunko and one other are a problem, but they are not a catastrophic one. The Strawhats, the giants and Gaban can deal with that. Maybe won’t be easy, but it’s not a big deal.

Loki’s a wildcard, but he’s also just been beaten within an inch of his life. He will have a massive role, but he’ll need time to recover for it. And while he’s probably going to fight Luffy with the build up, I am with people thinking he’s not so villainous as he’s painted. So I’m not sure he’s final fight of the arc (although his strength has been built up to be worth that).

There’s got to be some wild changes coming to Elbaf for it to be suitable as the penultimate step before Luffy becoming PK, which is basically what Gaban having the final RP means. There’s an entire untouched area, Usopp has done absolutely nothing, Kidd’s got to play some part. I’d find it strange if no one put of the main players actually comes to Elbaf at this step.

And of course, Luffy should be meeting Shanks soon, and I’d say before he becomes PK makes the most sense. Shanks has a load of links to Elbaf (and Yassop and Usopp are a connection as well). Will they come back?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don’t think all players are going after that specific RP, they’ll be involved in the final war but not all are going after the one piece necessarily. For example Shanks might already have it and he and BB could fight for it, Dragon and the revs are not going for it but will take advantage of the HKs involvement in elbaf to attack the WG etc

I still feel like odas going to go elimination style. If Gaban is the burned scar man, Shanks should know the location of the final poneglyph now too since he was just in Elbaph likely meeting Gaban.

This means pudding will be able to force that information out and give it to Blackbeard if Blackbeard beats shanks.

 

[Roo]

I’m mostly curious for what it means for Elbaf the arc.

Right now, the threat isn’t really there. Shamrock, Gunko and one other are a problem, but they are not a catastrophic one. The Strawhats, the giants and Gaban can deal with that. Maybe won’t be easy, but it’s not a big deal.

Loki’s a wildcard, but he’s also just been beaten within an inch of his life. He will have a massive role, but he’ll need time to recover for it. And while he’s probably going to fight Luffy with the build up, I am with people thinking he’s not so villainous as he’s painted. So I’m not sure he’s final fight of the arc (although his strength has been built up to be worth that).

There’s got to be some wild changes coming to Elbaf for it to be suitable as the penultimate step before Luffy becoming PK, which is basically what Gaban having the final RP means. There’s an entire untouched area, Usopp has done absolutely nothing, Kidd’s got to play some part. I’d find it strange if no one put of the main players actually comes to Elbaf at this step.

And of course, Luffy should be meeting Shanks soon, and I’d say before he becomes PK makes the most sense. Shanks has a load of links to Elbaf (and Yassop and Usopp are a connection as well). Will they come back?

Honestly depending on the HKs actions Elbaph might be a really short arc. If they’re only coming back with one more HK then I don’t see this arc going for more than 30 chapters. It will probably be Luffy + Loki and another SH vs HKs, then we’ll get a lore dump and maybe Gaban awards them the RP for saving his son(remember the HKs want to kidnap the children)

this might mean Elbaph is essentially the Zou of the final war.

 

[Francher Styles]

Idk man... if Scopper was the man, this panel would be total useless.
This isn't Oda way to do things. I mean, the BB pirates can be wrong about one thing or two... but everything? There has to be some truth behind these rumors, otherwise, why create it?

And I' seeing people doing mental gymnastic about Scpper paiting the Oro Jackson, or having a DF or fishman with him...

I still think this is Oda messing with you guys. The race for the One Piece between the Yonkos is everyone going after this last Road Poneglyph... And If Gaban is The Man with the burn scar it would be very anticlimatic.

A family man that also goes to the sea defending the RP from enemies, then leaving the ship alone again (like that makes sense). And Luffy being gifted with it? Idk...

 

[Paperchampion23]

Idk man... if Scopper was the man, this panel would be total useless.
This isn't Oda way to do things. I mean, the BB pirates can be wrong about one thing or two... but everything? There has to be some truth behind these rumors, otherwise, why create it?

And I' seeing people doing mental gymnastic about Scpper paiting the Oro Jackson, or having a DF or fishman with him...

I still think this is Oda messing with you guys. The race for the One Piece between the Yonkos is everyone going after this last Road Poneglyph... And If Gaban is The Man with the burn scar it would be very anticlimatic.

A family man that also goes to the sea defending the RP from enemies, then leaving the ship alone again (like that makes sense). And Luffy being gifted with it? Idk...

Ehhh in a way its similar to Luffys declaration about returning to WCI and defeating Big Mom. There is fluff with dialogue all the time, and I dont think we always need to take a characters dialogue, which was a guess, as fact.

Its actually more natural that Shiryu isnt right

 

[Francher Styles]

Ehhh in a way its similar to Luffys declaration about returning to WCI and defeating Big Mom. There is fluff with dialogue all the time, and I dont think we always need to take a characters dialogue, which was a guess, as fact.

Its actually more natural that Shiryu isnt right

The Shiryu part, I agree. It seems that's just a theory os his.

But the others things seems like a legend told by many folks "they said this man..."
And there should be some truth on it, otherwise this whole scene is pointless.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Possible, Oda wants us to keep guessing.

 

[Roo]

Idk man... if Scopper was the man, this panel would be total useless.
This isn't Oda way to do things. I mean, the BB pirates can be wrong about one thing or two... but everything? There has to be some truth behind these rumors, otherwise, why create it?

And I' seeing people doing mental gymnastic about Scpper paiting the Oro Jackson, or having a DF or fishman with him...

I still think this is Oda messing with you guys. The race for the One Piece between the Yonkos is everyone going after this last Road Poneglyph... And If Gaban is The Man with the burn scar it would be very anticlimatic.

A family man that also goes to the sea defending the RP from enemies, then leaving the ship alone again (like that makes sense). And Luffy being gifted with it? Idk...

If he sails around elbaf it would only be days of travel. The giants went from Elbaf to Egghead in a day. A family man that travels for a couple days isn’t that out of the question.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If he sails around elbaf it would only be days of travel. The giants went from Elbaf to Egghead in a day. A family man that travels for a couple days isn’t that out of the question.

But he doesn’t sail just around Elbaf

 

[Roo]

But he doesn’t sail just around Elbaf

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he probably mostly sails around elfbaf. Laboon is surprised to see him, meaning he hasn’t seen Crocus in decades.

the fact that kid and killer were heading in that direction probably signals that he mostly camps out in the area of the 3 islands, which at most is a day or 2 of travel

 

[kekaro]

But he doesn’t sail just around Elbaf

Why did kid want to go elbaf than?
He clearly is not a davy johnes type of roamer with no base

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why did kid want to go elbaf than?
He clearly is not a davy johnes type of roamer with no base

He didnt. He, like Luffy, just assumed moving directly east means he’d be moving deeper into the new world than the others. That’s why he was shocked when Law said North East was the most optimal route.

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he probably mostly sails around elfbaf. Laboon is surprised to see him, meaning he hasn’t seen Crocus in decades.

the fact that kid and killer were heading in that direction probably signals that he mostly camps out in the area of the 3 islands, which at most is a day or 2 of travel

Since he’s a self proclaimed explorer he probably just takes multi month expeditions, then returns to Elbaf for a bit. Not saying Elbaf isn’t his home base, but he probably ventures out all over the new world which has tons of islands to explore

 

[Roo]

He didnt. He, like Luffy, just assumed moving directly east means he’d be moving deeper into the new world than the others. That’s why he was shocked when Law said North East was the most optimal route.


Since he’s a self proclaimed explorer he probably just takes multi month expeditions, then returns to Elbaf for a bit. Not saying Elbaf isn’t his home base, but he probably ventures out all over the new world which has tons of islands to explore

That doesn’t necessarily mean he ventures far often, Elbaf is huge to begin with. It could just be that he mostly explores elbaf then from time to time goes far to visit other islands

But I think it’s more probably that when he has the RP he camps around elbaf, specially if we’re lead to believe that Lodestar is nearby or that Law knew where the burn scar man and was looking for him

 

[kekaro]

He didnt. He, like Luffy, just assumed moving directly east means he’d be moving deeper into the new world than the others. That’s why he was shocked when Law said North East was the most optimal route.


Since he’s a self proclaimed explorer he probably just takes multi month expeditions, then returns to Elbaf for a bit. Not saying Elbaf isn’t his home base, but he probably ventures out all over the new world which has tons of islands to explore

Even then you would then acknowledge the TMWBS would have terriotiry that is even beyond wano till the other end of the redline
I dont have a one piece map at my hand but that would be still incredible small, given that we seen Gaban traveled to crocus

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That doesn’t necessarily mean he ventures far often, Elbaf is huge to begin with. It could just be that he mostly explores elbaf then from time to time goes far to visit other islands

But I think it’s more probably that when he has the RP he camps around elbaf, specially if we’re lead to believe that Lodestar is nearby or that Law knew where the burn scar man and was looking for him

It’s possible, after all everything we “know” about Hinokizu, the English name is too long so I’ll use the Japanese, is still just rumored. So we don’t know if he constantly sails with the poneglyph or he was just seen with it.

IMO I feel like the reason Law made that face when Kid mentioned Hinokizu is because he ran into him. Laws the only one who’d survive such an encounter since his ships submersible and seeing how Gaban was with Crocus while the straw hats were in FMI, it’s possible that Gaban sailed near Punk Hazard after Law made it his island of residence.

Even then you would then acknowledge the TMWBS would have terriotiry that is even beyond wano till the other end of the redline
I dont have a one piece map at my hand but that would be still incredible small, given that we seen Gaban traveled to crocus

I don’t think he has territory, I think Hinokizu just sails where he pleases when he pleases.

 

[Francher Styles]

Gaban for me seemed like a retired pirate. Even his description says "ex pirate"

The man with the burn scar seens like a active pirate sailing and creating whirpools, actively fighting others pirates.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The Shiryu part, I agree. It seems that's just a theory os his.

But the others things seems like a legend told by many folks "they said this man..."
And there should be some truth on it, otherwise this whole scene is pointless.

And it being Scopper makes those scenes pointless how?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

And it being Scopper makes those scenes pointless how?

Plus you can always just chalk it up to Oda trying to deceive his readers like he’s been known to do

 

[kekaro]

It’s possible, after all everything we “know” about Hinokizu, the English name is too long so I’ll use the Japanese, is still just rumored. So we don’t know if he constantly sails with the poneglyph or he was just seen with it.

IMO I feel like the reason Law made that face when Kid mentioned Hinokizu is because he ran into him. Laws the only one who’d survive such an encounter since his ships submersible and seeing how Gaban was with Crocus while the straw hats were in FMI, it’s possible that Gaban sailed near Punk Hazard after Law made it his island of residence.


I don’t think he has territory, I think Hinokizu just sails where he pleases when he pleases.

Than how come they want further east like you claimed? why not continue your journey normally hope you meant him if he is everywehre equally?

You cant say they have current info, and kid was there like at minimum 1 month, which is insane long in one piece time

 

[Roo]

It’s possible, after all everything we “know” about Hinokizu, the English name is too long so I’ll use the Japanese, is still just rumored. So we don’t know if he constantly sails with the poneglyph or he was just seen with it.

IMO I feel like the reason Law made that face when Kid mentioned Hinokizu is because he ran into him. Laws the only one who’d survive such an encounter since his ships submersible and seeing how Gaban was with Crocus while the straw hats were in FMI, it’s possible that Gaban sailed near Punk Hazard after Law made it his island of residence.

We also have to think this from a story telling perspective, wouldn’t it make sense for Gaban to be camping out near the end of the grand line, as such any pirates who made it that far are probably close to the one piece?

Law might have met him before but that wouldn’t change my point since we know law was very deep into the grand line in the timeskip due to him having knowledge of the islands around wano and the rocky port incident taking place in fullalead which is near egghead