Speculations So it seems like Scopper is also the Man with the Burn Scar
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Its also not like we actually "knew" Scopper before this chapter. Yes, we've known who he was for years in an SBS and Roger namedropped him a singular time in the Oden flashback.
But to the average reader, Scopper being the burned scar man would be a genuine surprise, much like who he is this chapter if you arent focusing on details in flashbacks
Pretty sure that would make it it easier for someone then. Lodestar is supposed to be the place you find out about the RPs, so to avoid making the journey redundant thats why weve been finding them earlier than that island
Him being at Lodestar would sort of defeat the purpose of him being elusive, assuming all Yonko have been there already save for Luffy
But to the average reader, Scopper being the burned scar man would be a genuine surprise, much like who he is this chapter if you arent focusing on details in flashbacks
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Pretty sure that would make it it easier for someone then. Lodestar is supposed to be the place you find out about the RPs, so to avoid making the journey redundant thats why weve been finding them earlier than that island
Him being at Lodestar would sort of defeat the purpose of him being elusive, assuming all Yonko have been there already save for Luffy
1. You see Gaban, who uses two axes, having a DF?
2. You see an ex Roger Pirate, retired with a family, actively going to the sea fighting and defending a Poneglyph from others pirates?
3. It makes sense to you, how right now, the same Poneglyph he makes sure nobody comes close to it, is currently un protected while he's chilling on Elbaf even before Luffy arrives there?
4. It wouldn't made more sense for him to have the Road Poneglyph on Elbaf (Just like Zou), where he has a lot of strong allies, instead of risking it by going to the sea alone?
2. You see an ex Roger Pirate, retired with a family, actively going to the sea fighting and defending a Poneglyph from others pirates?
3. It makes sense to you, how right now, the same Poneglyph he makes sure nobody comes close to it, is currently un protected while he's chilling on Elbaf even before Luffy arrives there?
4. It wouldn't made more sense for him to have the Road Poneglyph on Elbaf (Just like Zou), where he has a lot of strong allies, instead of risking it by going to the sea alone?
Yeah, that's why I said earlier everything about the scene with Aokiji/BB pirates is pointless then
1. No DF
2. No sailing on a pitch black ship
3. No whirpools
4. No Wolrd Goverment conection(which I agree)
Nah that doesn't make any sense. I agree some are speculation, but there has to be some true on it. This isn't Oda way to do things.
"They said this man..." is not a theory from the BB pirates, is a legend some people used to say.
1. No DF
2. No sailing on a pitch black ship
3. No whirpools
4. No Wolrd Goverment conection(which I agree)
Nah that doesn't make any sense. I agree some are speculation, but there has to be some true on it. This isn't Oda way to do things.
"They said this man..." is not a theory from the BB pirates, is a legend some people used to say.
Remember that getting to lodestar isn’t easy as only Roger had done it before. I think lodestar being some sort of litmus test for top pirates for Gaban would make sense, if you’re good enough to get to lodestar you might get lucky and run into him.
even then the 4TH RP isn’t a guarantee as you have to get past his abilities and maybe even fight him
even then the 4TH RP isn’t a guarantee as you have to get past his abilities and maybe even fight him
It's probably true... but one thing that bothers me is Shiryu's speculation that the man with the burned scar was a WG guy.
The island was also under Linlin's protection once WB died
Unless you're a friend of Neptune, you are not seeing it
So it's most likely that Scopper is the burntman
Kid went to elbaf to find him their
And we see Scopper has a flame scar on his face
It's probably true... but one thing that bothers me is Shiryu's speculation that the man with the burned scar was a WG guy.
I never heard really a logical explanation why it should be a ship sailing around if its really the WG
Think about it though... if it was a famous pirate like Scopper, wouldn't people simply recognize who he was instead of calling him "Man with the Burn Scar"?
And secondly, do you think Scopper has a DF ability to cause whirlpools?
I agree that Scopper might just be the guy, but it might also be a red herring.
And secondly, do you think Scopper has a DF ability to cause whirlpools?
I agree that Scopper might just be the guy, but it might also be a red herring.
Scooper being the man, would mean that the BB pirates are coming to Elbaf... no way are the BB pirates in searching for this man, for them to not meet.
And honestly, I don't see the BB pirates coming to Elbaf.
My belief is, after Elbaf, we are going to see all the yonkos meeting in one point where this man is, creating whirpool on a black ship . A true battle royale for the final RP.
But yeah, that's just my wishful thinking, going to the boring route of Gaban being the man and gifting Luffy with the last RP would be so MEH!
And honestly, I don't see the BB pirates coming to Elbaf.
My belief is, after Elbaf, we are going to see all the yonkos meeting in one point where this man is, creating whirpool on a black ship . A true battle royale for the final RP.
But yeah, that's just my wishful thinking, going to the boring route of Gaban being the man and gifting Luffy with the last RP would be so MEH!
1. You assume its a DF because BBP assume it. Fishmen do this without devil fruits. Rayleigh swims through the calm belt and 1 shots sea kings lol. Is this really that hard to imagine that. Scooper can doo this without powers? Even then, who says he sails alone?
2. Uh, he was literally at Twin Capes early Timeskip lol. So yes, he does travel and he just mentioned this chapter he loves conflict.
3. Or its protected on Elbaf when he's there? Lol
4. See all 3 points above
2. Uh, he was literally at Twin Capes early Timeskip lol. So yes, he does travel and he just mentioned this chapter he loves conflict.
3. Or its protected on Elbaf when he's there? Lol
4. See all 3 points above
I'm not ruling out the possibility the whirlpools are created by the ship, or that the ship in question is the Oro Jackson.
Would it be that surprising for the ship of the Pirate King to possess special capabilities? Hell, what if the whirlpools are part of some sort of mechanism to reach Raftel? Or maybe it's to do with some of technology from the Ancient Kingdom, idk.
I am pretty confident in Waban being the guy though.
Would it be that surprising for the ship of the Pirate King to possess special capabilities? Hell, what if the whirlpools are part of some sort of mechanism to reach Raftel? Or maybe it's to do with some of technology from the Ancient Kingdom, idk.
I am pretty confident in Waban being the guy though.
While subtle, Scopper seems to have a flame shaped scar, which is how this person was described originally.
As the TCB notes mention, the phrasing isnt exact normal and it implies the scar is literally flame shaped. Reading the VIZ chapter, it just says "Man with the Burn Scar"
Now other characters like Saul and Aokiji have burn scars, but as weve been told by both, its unlikely to be them because Saul hasnt left Elbaf in 20 years and Aokiji just recently got his scars from Akainu.
Imo Scopper has more to him than we think, and pure logic would actually support him being the Man with the Burn Scar. He's extremely powerful, meaning he can probably move a poneglyph. He also is one of the few people on the planet that should have known where the Fish Man Island Road Poneglyph would be.
That said, his ship and powers are currently a mystery, but that would solidify this claim.
Thoughts?
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As the TCB notes mention, the phrasing isnt exact normal and it implies the scar is literally flame shaped. Reading the VIZ chapter, it just says "Man with the Burn Scar"
Now other characters like Saul and Aokiji have burn scars, but as weve been told by both, its unlikely to be them because Saul hasnt left Elbaf in 20 years and Aokiji just recently got his scars from Akainu.
Imo Scopper has more to him than we think, and pure logic would actually support him being the Man with the Burn Scar. He's extremely powerful, meaning he can probably move a poneglyph. He also is one of the few people on the planet that should have known where the Fish Man Island Road Poneglyph would be.
That said, his ship and powers are currently a mystery, but that would solidify this claim.
Thoughts?
@Tyki_Mikk @Doggo @Sentinel @JoNdule @Bounty @HA001 @nik87 @Roo @zzShinichi @Bounty @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Garp the Fist. Etc
Gaban = Sanji's Roger Pirates counterpart
Sanji = originally named Naruto
Naruto = Japanese for several things including whirlpools
Gaban = Man marked by flames' confirmed.
Where was it stated that he carries the Road Poneglyph with him though ?
- They hunt him because they suspect he knows the location of the RP, or even better he is the fucking navigator of the Roger Pirates so even if he doesn't know the location of the RP, he knows how to go straight to Laugh Tale, they might have started hunting him for that reason and in time the theory that he could have the RP was spread through the New World
- Him having a DF was just a speculation there could be other explanations for the whirlpools not necessarily DF related
- They hunt him because they suspect he knows the location of the RP, or even better he is the fucking navigator of the Roger Pirates so even if he doesn't know the location of the RP, he knows how to go straight to Laugh Tale, they might have started hunting him for that reason and in time the theory that he could have the RP was spread through the New World
- Him having a DF was just a speculation there could be other explanations for the whirlpools not necessarily DF related