Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1139 : “The Mountain Eater”

[Hamlette]

So the one with Roger is ambiguous, like the Oden, Arlong and Buggy one, and that's OK.

The statement with Ray is not ambiguous and refers to strength.

This literally means it is a more of an L for zoro tards because they cannot compare Gaban and Ray to Roger, there is space left for luffy and Roger fans to have them above the wings.

So at the end its not Ray ~ Roger ~ Scopper

But it's definitely Ray ~ Scopper according to sandman.

Entertaining the damage control only shows that it's affecting you. There is nothing to discuss here. Did you actually expect them to accept the obvious implications of this chapter?.

 

[kekaro]

In a statement with Rayleigh in it.

So you either have Roger ~ Rayleigh ~ Gaban.
Or you just stick with Roger > Ray > Gaban.

Its the same phrase used for shiki so its clearly Roger ~ Rayleigh ~ Gaban.

Its also the only statement in the series beside whitebeard and roger where prior it mentioned strength, and not some cope word like skill btw. just saying

 

[[No Name]]

Roger >> Ray >~ Gaban is pure cope.

It's not. Sandman explained that the statement with Roger is ambiguous, like the arlong, oden etc one.

While the first statement with Rayleigh definetetly refers to strength and its hard to say who's stronger.

These are sandman words.

Basically you all could had Ray ~ Roger confirmed at least, while you only got Ray ~ Scopper and them being comparable as legend but not strength.

Roger > Ray ~ Scopper is CANON.

 

[Garp the Fist]

So the one with Roger is ambiguous, like the Oden, Arlong and Buggy one, and that's OK.

The statement with Ray is not ambiguous and refers to strength.

This literally means it is a more of an L for zoro tards because they cannot compare Gaban and Ray to Roger, there is space left for luffy and Roger fans to have them above the wings.

So at the end its not Ray ~ Roger ~ Scopper

But it's definitely Ray ~ Scopper according to sandman.

At no point does Sandman say that the comparison with Ray is to do with strength.

He literally says the right hand is generally to do with being the trusted number 2, and the left hand complements that. This statement has nothing to do with strength and can’t be used to determine it.

So that’s where we use common sense and wonder, why is there three characters called Gold, Silver and Copper? What could that possibly mean.

 

[Malio]

Strawhat crew standing shoulder to Shoulder... all are EKUWALLS

 

[Roo]

In a statement with Rayleigh in it.

So you either have Roger ~ Rayleigh ~ Gaban.
Or you just stick with Roger > Ray > Gaban.

Roger >> Ray >~ Gaban is pure cope.


@Bold:

And last i checked, Gaban was not confirmed as a FS user so nope.


He was talking about the Marines taking on Rayleigh & Whitebeard at the same time, no?
Grouping the two as "Legends".... and this is Garp speaking, not some giant who merely heard the stories.

FS is just another application of CoO, one might argue range is more useful in battle depending on your style. ex If you have a large AoE and you have ranged CoO FS users cant do much in a battle to dodge


Kaido is a retard who couldn't awaken. I don't take his words as gospel

 

[ConquistadoR]

It's not. Sandman explained that the statement with Roger is ambiguous, like the arlong, oden etc one.

While the first statement with Rayleigh definetetly refers to strength and its hard to say who's stronger.

These are sandman words.

Basically you all could had Ray ~ Roger confirmed at least, while you only got Ray ~ Scopper and them being comparable as legend but not strength.

Roger > Ray ~ Scopper is CANON.

Cope.

 

[[No Name]]

At no point does Sandman say that the comparison with Ray is to do with strength.

He literally says the right hand is generally to do with being the trusted number 2, and the left hand complements that. This statement has nothing to do with strength and can’t be used to determine it.

So that’s where we use common sense and wonder, why is there three characters called Gold, Silver and Copper? What could that possibly mean.

He literally added that it's hard to tell who's stronger, read.

 

[yj]

It's not. Sandman explained that the statement with Roger is ambiguous, like the arlong, oden etc one.

While the first statement with Rayleigh definetetly refers to strength and its hard to say who's stronger.

These are sandman words.

Basically you all could had Ray ~ Roger confirmed at least, while you only got Ray ~ Scopper and them being comparable as legend but not strength.

Roger > Ray ~ Scopper is CANON.

Cry

 

[[No Name]]

Lmao going against sandman and then telling me I am the one crying.

 

[Wizak08]

It is difficult to decide which one is superior in terms of strength.

We won.

Which strong pirate crew is the third in command stronger than the second?

 

[[No Name]]

Which strong pirate crew is the third in command stronger than the second?

In Buggy crew they are equals.

 

[ConquistadoR]

FS is just another application of CoO, one might argue range is more useful in battle depending on your style. ex If you have a large AoE and you have ranged CoO FS users cant do much in a battle to dodge

Idc for what one might argue.
Fs is more hyped as an elite ability in the manga than what Gaban has displayed so far.
The statement that "he already showed better CoO than all SHs" is 100% false.

Kaido is a retard who couldn't awaken. I don't take his words as gospel

Did some non-CoC user awaken their fruit and make a statement saying the opposite?

 

[moreha9685]

In Buggy crew they are equals.

 

[yj]

Sanji fans

 

[Garp the Fist]

He literally added that it's hard to tell who's stronger, read.

He literally adds that because “The right-arm右腕 is generally used to refer to the most trusted No.2, but the left-arm左腕 often plays a complementary role.”

Where here does it talk about strength? It’s about being trusted to Roger.

Then “It is difficult to decide which one is superior in terms of strength” because the right and left hand stuff doesn’t even address strength directly lmao.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Kaido is a retard who couldn't awaken. I don't take his words as gospel

 

[soheilhazrat]

New translations doesnt change anything, zoro fans can't gaslight anyone lmfao

 

[MonsterKaido]

Where are chadmiral fans?

 

[Roo]

Idc for what one might argue.
Fs is more hyped as an elite ability in the manga than what Gaban has displayed so far.

An elite ability Kaido mocked Luffy for having?

The statement that "he already showed better CoO than all SHs" is 100% false.

in terms of range? yes

Did some non-CoC user awaken their fruit and make a statement saying the opposite?

No it's just showing Kaido is not a reliable source as he can't even reach the full potential of his abilities.

I doubt in a series about DREAMS literal dream power would be put to the side for haki(willpower). Thematically it makes no sense