Le Fishe Thread R.I.P Yonko Lvl Gaban

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#82
Fellow Zoribros are missing the big picture here tbh.

Many Zoribros spent years claiming that EoS Sanjino will cap out at barely above Marco/Kat level, which is now laughable after the hype Gaban received this chapter, having been explicitly given a 1:1 parallel with Sanji. That is an L by itself, but on top of that, Rayleigh is no longer the only special/relevant crewmate of Roger -- which was what many people used for years to separate Luffy and Zoro from Sanji and the rest of the crew.

Obviously, Rayleigh is still the VC, still the #2 and still Roger's partner, but now Oda has formally introduced the monster trio dynamic and the Zoro-Sanji dynamic into the Roger Pirates. If you try to downplay or even entirely remove the Roger ~ Ray ~ Gaban implication, it is hurting Ray's standing and by proxy hurting Zoro's standing.

Instead, accepting that those 3 are comparable in power and accepting that they reflect Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji basically guarantees Zoro's place at the top of the verse come EoS.
Yes, it is all about Rayleigh > Gaban agenda.
Instead of taking an L now, they want to take another L when Gaban shows off.

With possibly far better feats than Rayleigh... I guess agenda pushers will never learn.
While I don't think Zoro, Luffy and Sanji are limited to gold, silver and copper, I do agree that those 3 are their very minimum at EOS.
 
#83
Sanji fans reached too high and got burned.

They could have been happy with this chapter showing Gaban as a legit force to be reckoned with, almost certainly a top tier.

But overreached with the - potentially a sign of serious brain damage- take of thinking “ah, these characters are all mentioned together. Must be equals.”
You of all people should not be questioning people’s mental faculties, when your ‘Scopper would not be relevant’ BS was completely shat on.
 
#85
Regardless of whether the statement means whether Roger-Rayleigh-Gaban are exactly the same or not, diminishing Gaban is diminishing Rayleigh and Roger.

In the chapter it is very clear:
- Gaban and Rayleigh are outstanding and exceptionally stronger than all other crew members.
- Gaban and Rayleigh were shoulder to shoulder as Roger's right and left arm.
- Gaban is classified as a legendary figure along with Roger and Rayleigh.

All of Gaban's exaggerations are linked to Roger and Rayleigh, if you want to diminish Gaban, remember that you are consequently diminishing Rayleigh, in addition to Roger.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#86
Regardless of whether the statement means whether Roger-Rayleigh-Gaban are exactly the same or not, diminishing Gaban is diminishing Rayleigh and Roger.

In the chapter it is very clear:
- Gaban and Rayleigh are outstanding and exceptionally stronger than all other crew members.
- Gaban and Rayleigh were shoulder to shoulder as Roger's right and left arm.
- Gaban is classified as a legendary figure along with Roger and Rayleigh.

All of Gaban's exaggerations are linked to Roger and Rayleigh, if you want to diminish Gaban, remember that you are consequently diminishing Rayleigh, in addition to Roger.
We are in the dark ages when Chaves-chin is right... :crazwhat:
 
#87
Thank you all for attending. I'm gathered here to today to honour the life of a brother, a son and a father. It's with a heavy heart that I bring you this bad news, but our beloved Yonko lvl Gaban has passed away this afternoon, at 15:00 GMT.


We first met him on Tuesday...I still remember his smile. :hope:It was impossible not to be drawn to him. He had this incredible energy, this warmth that made you feel like you had known him forever. From that moment on, I knew he was someone truly special.



Fast forward to Friday. He continued to show signs of brilliance. He truly incredible soul who had a way of lighting up every room he walked into. His warmth, kindness, and laughter were a gift to us all, and his presence made the world a brighter place. To know YonkoLvlGaban was to know warmth, love, and unwavering kindness. He had a way of turning ordinary moments into something special, filling every space with joy and laughter. His spirit was truly one of a kind.




But suddenly, he fell ill. We rushed him to the nearest hospital and asked for a diagnosis. This is what the chart read:





Only me and @Fleet Leader Fenaker were in the room at the time. He had to leave the room in order to contain his tears, as I just stood there in disbelief.

We pleaded with the doctor to see if there was anything he could do to save his life. He asked if there were any other statements that could legitimise his existence. I told him that he rivalled Silvers Rayleigh, and that it should surely be enough.







The nursed placed the sheet over his head...and that was where Yonko Lvl Gaban's story ended.

Feb 4th 2025 - Feb 9th 2025


We will miss him more as the days lengthen the shadows of his passing. We will miss him in at church. We will miss him in the community. And we will miss him in future spoiler threads.
If anyone would like to share a memory or a few words about him, you're welcome to do so now.


@HA001 @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Topi Jerami @Daikenki @Lor D. Coast @mly90 @MonsterZoro @Marimo_420 @hedera__helix @zenox @Cinera @Aknolagon @Demongodzolo @yj @Afroking @LadyVados @Sword God Ryuma @Ice devil slayer @L57 @Yo Tan Wa @Shishi @stormylife @Nidai_Kitetsu @stairs-kun @I'mTired @ConquistadoR @Franosuke @Gensui Sazid @Gauntlet @AL sama @Malio @Zenos7 @LolonoisZolo @Shanal @Peroroncino @Nadel @God Ward

 
#90
Thank you all for attending. I'm gathered here to today to honour the life of a brother, a son and a father. It's with a heavy heart that I bring you this bad news, but our beloved Yonko lvl Gaban has passed away this afternoon, at 15:00 GMT.


We first met him on Tuesday...I still remember his smile. :hope:It was impossible not to be drawn to him. He had this incredible energy, this warmth that made you feel like you had known him forever. From that moment on, I knew he was someone truly special.



Fast forward to Friday. He continued to show signs of brilliance. He truly incredible soul who had a way of lighting up every room he walked into. His warmth, kindness, and laughter were a gift to us all, and his presence made the world a brighter place. To know YonkoLvlGaban was to know warmth, love, and unwavering kindness. He had a way of turning ordinary moments into something special, filling every space with joy and laughter. His spirit was truly one of a kind.




But suddenly, he fell ill. We rushed him to the nearest hospital and asked for a diagnosis. This is what the chart read:





Only me and @Fleet Leader Fenaker were in the room at the time. He had to leave the room in order to contain his tears, as I just stood there in disbelief.

We pleaded with the doctor to see if there was anything he could do to save his life. He asked if there were any other statements that could legitimise his existence. I told him that he rivalled Silvers Rayleigh, and that it should surely be enough.







The nursed placed the sheet over his head...and that was where Yonko Lvl Gaban's story ended.

Feb 4th 2025 - Feb 9th 2025


We will miss him more as the days lengthen the shadows of his passing. We will miss him in at church. We will miss him in the community. And we will miss him in future spoiler threads.
If anyone would like to share a memory or a few words about him, you're welcome to do so now.


@HA001 @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Topi Jerami @Daikenki @Lor D. Coast @mly90 @MonsterZoro @Marimo_420 @hedera__helix @zenox @Cinera @Aknolagon @Demongodzolo @yj @Afroking @LadyVados @Sword God Ryuma @Ice devil slayer @L57 @Yo Tan Wa @Shishi @stormylife @Nidai_Kitetsu @stairs-kun @I'mTired @ConquistadoR @Franosuke @Gensui Sazid @Gauntlet @AL sama @Malio @Zenos7 @LolonoisZolo @Shanal @Peroroncino @Nadel @God Ward

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#91
Quesiton for the delulu bois

Was Sengoku standing "Shoulder to Shoulder" with Grap against Shiki?
Post automatically merged:

Similarly, was prime Gaban standing "Shoulder to Shoulder" with prime Rayleigh and prime Roger against Rocx pirates and Holy Knights in God Valley?
 
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#94
What are the chances this ages badly in record time considering old Gaban might wipe the floor with Sun God next chapter? :sanmoji:
It wont change anything if Luffy doesn't go all out. Just look at how he fought like a bum at Egghead vs how he fought intensely putting his life on the line against Kaido. Its the usual shonen bs - bro can keep reaching higher and higher level based on his opponents.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#95
It wont change anything if Luffy doesn't go all out. Just look at how he fought like a bum at Egghead vs how he fought intensely putting his life on the line against Kaido. Its the usual shonen bs - bro can keep reaching higher and higher level based on his opponents.
Let me phrase it differently...
Rayleigh got to show off at the end of pre-TS.
Gaban gets to show off at the end of post-TS/start of final saga...
Idk why you think Gaban being near Roger is stupid when manga said that, the translations haven't changed anything about it.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#98
Bro Roger is GOAT level, Gaban has nothing going for him - apart from a dialogue from a couple of scrubs. If you compare against Roger, I do see some arguments for Rayleigh, even then bro was kind of irrelevant in flashbacks.
Roger has never been the GOAT.
From the start of the manga, Mihawk and Shanks have been stronger than him.
Roger is simply more successful/famous pirate, because Oden took him to hidden island.
That is where Roger's goatness comes from, from Oden and WB helping him...

While Shanks and Mihawk have been ignored, due to narrative progression, pre-TS focused on Whitebeard and nobody else was known.
Comes post-TS and it builds up towards a guy who used Roger and WB as his mere hypetools.
Even Oden used them as his own hypetools.

And finally, in the final saga, Roger is getting dragged down from the pedestal that was never his.
And you are confusing Roger's fame with Roger's power.
Neither Rayleigh nor Gaban can match Roger's fame, nobody can yet but plenty can match his power.
 
Its mainly the admiral fanboy bums who slander Roger, which always ends with them getting Ls. Roger is the certified GOAT in this manga.
Bro Roger is GOAT level, Gaban has nothing going for him - apart from a dialogue from a couple of scrubs. If you compare against Roger, I do see some arguments for Rayleigh, even then bro was kind of irrelevant in flashbacks.
Apologize
:shame:
 
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