General & Others Shiki was originally supposed to be a Navy Admiral

[Monkey D Monkey]

Shiki took on Garp and Sengoku. Shiki’s power level doesn’t make much sense.

 

[SkySanji]

Emphasis on "was", Oda clearly realized that Shiki's too strong to be a mere AssmiraL and hence we got canon instead.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

The fact that Sakazuki was originally conceptualized with Shiki and Sengoku tells you everything you need to know about his EOS PL @MonsterKaido

He’s gonna be strong as fuck

 

[soupongo]

The fact that Sakazuki was originally conceptualized with Shiki and Sengoku tells you everything you need to know about his EOS PL @MonsterKaido

He’s gonna be strong as fuck

I don't understand what this is supposed to prove

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I don't understand what this is supposed to prove

That Sakazuki in Oda’s mind is meant to be relative to Sengoku and Shiki.

It’s an old draft but it’s still relevant, in Oda’s old drafts Shanks was the leader of the God’s Knights, and then in the actual manga we got Shamrock.

It obviously matters lmao

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Just put all the pieces together

- conceptualized with Shiki and Sengoku
- 5 billion bounty
- highest level of offensive devil fruit power
- could end OP in a year

And dudes will look you dead in the eye and tell you “I don’t see what this is supposed to mean” 😂 @Kurozumi Wiwi

 

[soupongo]

That Sakazuki in Oda’s mind is meant to be relative to Sengoku and Shiki.

It’s an old draft but it’s still relevant, in Oda’s old drafts Shanks was the leader of the God’s Knights, and then in the actual manga we got Shamrock.

It obviously matters lmao

Am I forgetting those two being super important characters ever or something

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Am I forgetting those two being super important characters ever or something

Sengoku is a fleet admiral who was compared to Roger/Garp.

Shiki was compared to Sengoku/Garp.

Sakazuki currently is also a fleet admiral like Sengoku and has a 5B bounty.

The point is Oda likely still thinks of these characters as being relative since the portrayal is consistent

 

[soupongo]

Sengoku is a fleet admiral who was compared to Roger/Garp.

Shiki was compared to Sengoku/Garp.

Sakazuki currently is also a fleet admiral like Sengoku and has a 5B bounty.

The point is Oda likely still thinks of these characters as being relative since the portrayal is consistent

Wait, so you're leeching off of characters who leeches off Roger and Whitebeard?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Sengoku is a fleet admiral who was compared to Roger/Garp.

Shiki was compared to Sengoku/Garp.

Sakazuki currently is also a fleet admiral like Sengoku and has a 5B bounty.

The point is Oda likely still thinks of these characters as being relative since the portrayal is consistent

To be fair Akainu already had superior portrayal to Sengoku when Jinbe stated that the marine got much stronger under his leadership
Okay leadership =/= strenght but Sengoku got more hyped pre-ts for being a great leader and tactician than his strenght, not joking. So if Akainu surpassed him in field, what are the implications for the rest? Akainu folds this bum

 

[Ven437]

Prime BM the Fleet Admiral potential man without her Devil Fruit

 

[soupongo]

It's time to face the facts. You can scale admirals to roger through all the third degree leeching you want, but no admiral has the undefeated record Katakuri has. Katakuri protected his family in the days of garp/roger etc @EmperorKinyagi @Kurozumi Wiwi

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

It's time to face the facts. You can scale admirals to roger through all the third degree leeching you want, but no admiral has the undefeated record Katakuri has. Katakuri protected his family in the days of garp/roger etc @EmperorKinyagi @Kurozumi Wiwi

King Kuri for a reason
@MarineHQ @ZenZu

 

[Shiroyru]

The fact that Sakazuki was originally conceptualized with Shiki and Sengoku tells you everything you need to know about his EOS PL @MonsterKaido

He’s gonna be strong as fuck

How is it hype to be grouped with a bronze medalist bum like Shiki?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

How is it hype to be grouped with a bronze medalist bum like Shiki?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Both sengoku and shiki are below roger and Prime WB by some margin also.

 

[soupongo]

To be fair,Shiki is awesome and chapter 0 is really good. But yeah, he's probably not that strong

 

[Shiroyru]

Lmao don’t tell me you actually believe Shiki isn’t total trash. Dude got negged by a CoC storm. Got grouped with Captain John and Wang Zhi. Got defeated by pre-TS Luffy in a movie. Got totally abandoned by Oda. Mentioning Shiki in the same breath as Papazuki is sacrilegious

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Lmao don’t tell me you actually believe Shiki isn’t total trash. Dude got negged by a CoC storm. Got grouped with Captain John and Wang Zhi. Got defeated by pre-TS Luffy in a movie. Got totally abandoned by Oda. Mentioning Shiki in the same breath as Papazuki is sacrilegious

 

[Shiroyru]

Both sengoku and shiki are below roger and Prime WB by some margin also.

Kid is closer to Luffy than Shiki was to Roger imo