Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1140 Spoilers Discussion

[Mr.Baj1o]

Their still the top of the pirate world. Rayleigh himself said he couldn't beat blackbeard. And it's fair to say that Rayleigh is at the very least, slightly stronger than gaban.

If i remember right Ray didnt say he cant beat Blackbeard he said something different that it would be even hard for him at his age. he never admitted he cant beat him

 

[Roo]

Law is not Yonko/PK level.

Then BB and therefore Luffy isn’t.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

The only Holy Knight I see around Kaido lvl is only Shamrock, the rest is around YC-low top tier lvl.

 

[Roo]

Is it over for handful of strongest fans?

He likely has AdCoC Tbf

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Law doesn’t need it

He will get it, he needs it to top Primebeard lvl later to face Imu together with Luffy.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The only Holy Knight I see around Kaido lvl is only Shamrock, the rest is around YC-low top tier lvl.

Depending on how Gunko goes down I think some may be a bit weaker than the commanders too.

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ACoC is needed to be Yonko/PK level, but you can sneak in to the Top Tier without. Not sure if Gaban has it. We'll see.

Blackbeard?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

But blackbeard isn’t Luffy. Blackbeard is a good bit stronger than Luffy tbh.

THey're still at the same tier. I think Luffy is currently superior to Blackbeard, since teach still has to grow before he compares to Imu. Oda wrote that in to let us know that despite how strong these legends are, they're currently outmatched by top tiers of this generation.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Law doesn’t need it

he doesn't but he'll still likely get it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

THey're still at the same tier. I think Luffy is currently superior to Blackbeard, since teach still has to grow before he compares to Imu. Oda wrote that in to let us know that despite how strong these legends are, they're currently outmatched by top tiers of this generation.

I don’t think they’re even the same tier. Blackbeard is a monster, just because both Luffy and Blackbeard are yonko doesn’t mean they’re close. Blackbeard is definitely stronger of the two Heck buggy’s a yonko.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Lmao “Scopper is trash” after handing Luffy his ass while fighting with a key, playing around, and only using one attack that needed both Luffy and Zoro to stop

Handling base Luffy. Lol that's what I expected. Sanji fans told me he would be destroying G5. We all knew Scopper will get some hype. I said he would. This chapter is perfect scopper got decent hype but not Kaido level hype that was blitzing the dhot out of G5. Zoro blocks a name scopper attack.
Btw
Luffy,Zoro,Loki, Shamrock all stronger than old scopper

 

[Roo]

He will get it, he needs it to top Primebeard lvl later to face Imu together with Luffy.

White haki

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He will get it, he needs it to top Primebeard lvl later to face Imu together with Luffy.

You also think he'll be Luffy's Whitebeard?

 

[Raiden7]

Elbaf Power Rankings
#1 Shamrock
#2 Loki
#3 Gear 5 Luffy
#4 Zoro
#5 Gaban
#6 Gunko
#7 Gear 4 Luffy and other gears
#8 Other HKs
#9 Jinbe
# 10 Sanji , Dorry and Broggy

Yeah sure, now this is a better list without ZoLo fans biases.

#1 Shamrock/Luffy
#2 Gaban
#3 Loki
#4 Sommers/Gillingham/Gunko
#5 Sanji/Zoro
#6 Dorry/Broggy
#7 Jarul
#8 Jinbe
#9 Harjudin
#10 Franky/Robin


Position 4 5 and 6 are interchangable, Dorry and Broggy powers are clearly retconnected and now are way stronger. The holy knights are strong for sure but if they fight Sanji/Zoro they will probably lose in some way but it's still not easy to classify them, for the usually shonen logic Gunko maybe it's a little weaker then the new two knights.

 

[OPKnK]

If i remember right Ray didnt say he cant beat Blackbeard he said something different that it would be even hard for him at his age. he never admitted he cant beat him

He said he full out he cannot beat BB in a head to head fight at his age.

 

[Sentinel]

Depending on how Gunko goes down I think some may be a bit weaker than the commanders too.

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Blackbeard?

Honestly, if we include the usual commanders, I don't think a single HK will end up weaker than them. Gunko herself has a pretty powerful DF.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Handling base Luffy. Lol that's what I expected. Sanji fans told me he would be destroying G5. We all knew Scopper will get some hype. I said he would. This chapter is perfect scopper got decent hype but not Kaido level hype that was blitzing the dhot out of G5. Zoro blocks a name scopper attack.
Btw
Luffy,Zoro,Loki, Shamrock all stronger than old scopper

Zoro blocks literally a part of the attack lmao you think Zoro blocked all of it????

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

If Gaban ~ Rayleigh, he should be solid Low/Mid Top Tier, and be able to fight Admirals to a high-extreme difficulty fight. Even if Luffy is using ACoC in base, Gaban should still be able to match or even surpass him.

Him clowning base Luffy with no ACoC is no surprise, and even expected. If it's Boundman Luffy, that'd really be a feat though.

Lol at Scopper is equal to Rayleigh

 

[Hako Sama]

Sommers is probably very strong.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

If i remember right Ray didnt say he cant beat Blackbeard he said something different that it would be even hard for him at his age. he never admitted he cant beat him

 

[SDfear]

The two new Holy Knights were both introduced as Saints along with their family name.

But when it comes to Gunko who got a introduction box twice was never introduced as a Saint, and her family name was never revealed either.

Maybe she is from Nerona family