Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1140 Spoilers Discussion

How strong was Prime Gaban ?


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I think as long as Oda keeps it simple like a brachiosaurus shooting its head out, a triceratops flying, a shadow making zombies, a string that makes people puppets, shit like this where yeah you can see how someone would imagine it, then sure no problem.

The problem with haki is it’s too vague where it should be and detailed where it shouldn’t. Oda treating it like a skill tree and a basic leveling where “oh you can only have base CoO but that base CoO can be better than Future Sight but future sight is also an advanced form of CoO” is where shit gets dumb.
I've been saying this for quite some time. They are 2 different things. One is the level you have in each category. And another is the skills or different functions that you know how to use for each haki.


For example, character X only knows how to use the basic function of the COA, but he has it at a very high level. So it has a lot of attack power and a lot of defensive power. However, he does not know how to use ryou (internal damage)
We can see this perfectly with Kinemon and the other samurai, who know how to use ryou, and other characters of a much higher level in strength and haki power, do not know how to use it.

The same would happen with the COC and the COO.

But yes, Oda is terrible at explaining and detailing powers. We are still discussing what Zoro's KOH is xD
 
It's vague.

Imagination and desires are vague concept to build your power system on.


And, vagueness ends up complicating things more than simplifying it. We saw something similar with haki when it was introduced in the beginning - and look where we end up with



These systems are nothing but oda finding ways to do whatever he wants with a particular dfs without explaining much.
Yup
 
Oda really dropped the ball with Kid and Law vs BM. In theory I can totally see how BM can match Kaido
I think what it is is having Kid and Law beat BM only for Shanks to one shot Kid, thereby making it seem like he could low diff BM

Which is why I’m starting to support the idea that Kid would have probably done a bit better if he wasn’t surprised and his strongest move didn’t rebound in his face.

Ultimately a consistent theme with Shanks is he doesn’t fight fair.
 
I think what it is is having Kid and Law beat BM only for Shanks to one shot Kid, thereby making it seem like he could low diff BM

Which is why I’m starting to support the idea that Kid would have probably done a bit better if he wasn’t surprised and his strongest move didn’t rebound in his face.

Ultimately a consistent theme with Shanks is he doesn’t fight fair.
Shanks > Kaido > BM
 
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