Speculations Loki's fruit is the "destroyer" depiction of Nika, right?

#1

So, there are multiple interpretations of Nika; a liberator, a destroyer, a god who laughs... etc. Of course, the "true" sun god (if there is one) will be proven to be Nika the liberator, which is the fruit Luffy possesses right now. But DFs are the manifestations of desire and born in response to people's wishes. If enough people want Nika "the destroyer," like that one giant speaking up, then it will come into existence, just like any mythical zoan based on legends.

Which brings us to the subject of Loki.

Seem familiar? That's because Loki is doing the exact same pose Luffy does in G5.

This serves two purposes.
1- Obvious foreshadowing for Loki as a dark parallel to Luffy/Nika
2- Shows that Loki is pretty knowledgeable on Nika, to the point he can perfectly copy his signature pose.
And with this in mind...

Loki thinks of himself first and foremost, as the Sun God. Since Loki's fruit was a prized possession of Elbaf, it's either from proper Norse mythology or Elbaf's own religion. Look at the contenders from Norse Mythology.
Fenris and Jormungandr are destroyers, but don't have anything to do with the sun, or really have a related theme going for them. So, there's not really a reason for Loki to think he's a sun god based on having those fruits. Surtur is more likely, given he's a fire giant who burns everything down in Ragnarok, but I think "Destroyer Nika" is far more likely in the context of the larger story.

1- Loki copied the exact same pose Luffy does when he's in G5. This already implies he's actually pretty knowledgeable of the Nika/Sun God legend and what it entails. Nika is his homeland's myth after all. So, in order for him to loudly proclaim he's that mythical sun god, he must be as close as possible to the real thing to believe it.

^Nika as seen by Elbaf.
2- Nor does Oda have any issue including other Nikas into the story, looking at Bonney's transformation with the Nika fruit. This may even be his way of backtracking from making Luffy too special in the scheme of things. In an arc like Elbaf, some sort of victory over Loki might be what's needed for the giants to give their full allegiance.

Personally, I wouldn't like Loki to transform into another nika reskin, but it seems like the story might be pointing toward it. I hope if this is true, his zoan transformation will have monstrous features from the original myth being distorted. Thoughts?
 
#4
Pretty good.

@MonochromeYoru had a similar idea with Luffy being the Liberator in his Joyboy form but turning into the Destroyer Nika by absorbing Surtur's flame or Imu's Mother Flame.

This could work with Loki as well. Either he could be Surtur who causes Luffy to go Destroyer mode or he himself has the ability to go Destroyer Nika mode by awakening his fruit.

As to how it looks, I think it would be like Luffy's form, but absolutely massive with burning flame clouds and fiery rashes like Burning Godzilla.

Maybe have Loki's horns (if it's him) be cracked and melting from the massive heat he's generating, and his skin goes jet black to contrast G5's white. I'm thinking a gaunt, skeletal, elongated body frame too.

And in lieu of Luffy's timer, he instead gets a meltdown thing like Godzilla where he goes Kaboom and annihilates everything if he's not defeated in time.
 
#6

So, there are multiple interpretations of Nika; a liberator, a destroyer, a god who laughs... etc. Of course, the "true" sun god (if there is one) will be proven to be Nika the liberator, which is the fruit Luffy possesses right now. But DFs are the manifestations of desire and born in response to people's wishes. If enough people want Nika "the destroyer," like that one giant speaking up, then it will come into existence, just like any mythical zoan based on legends.

Which brings us to the subject of Loki.

Seem familiar? That's because Loki is doing the exact same pose Luffy does in G5.

This serves two purposes.
1- Obvious foreshadowing for Loki as a dark parallel to Luffy/Nika
2- Shows that Loki is pretty knowledgeable on Nika, to the point he can perfectly copy his signature pose.
And with this in mind...

Loki thinks of himself first and foremost, as the Sun God. Since Loki's fruit was a prized possession of Elbaf, it's either from proper Norse mythology or Elbaf's own religion. Look at the contenders from Norse Mythology.
Fenris and Jormungandr are destroyers, but don't have anything to do with the sun, or really have a related theme going for them. So, there's not really a reason for Loki to think he's a sun god based on having those fruits. Surtur is more likely, given he's a fire giant who burns everything down in Ragnarok, but I think "Destroyer Nika" is far more likely in the context of the larger story.

1- Loki copied the exact same pose Luffy does when he's in G5. This already implies he's actually pretty knowledgeable of the Nika/Sun God legend and what it entails. Nika is his homeland's myth after all. So, in order for him to loudly proclaim he's that mythical sun god, he must be as close as possible to the real thing to believe it.

^Nika as seen by Elbaf.
2- Nor does Oda have any issue including other Nikas into the story, looking at Bonney's transformation with the Nika fruit. This may even be his way of backtracking from making Luffy too special in the scheme of things. In an arc like Elbaf, some sort of victory over Loki might be what's needed for the giants to give their full allegiance.

Personally, I wouldn't like Loki to transform into another nika reskin, but it seems like the story might be pointing toward it. I hope if this is true, his zoan transformation will have monstrous features from the original myth being distorted. Thoughts?
I like this theory. That scene of Luffy clapping Lucci in the anime was pretty cool, Nika Luffy was pretty scary. Evil Nika would be dope.
 
#8
Loki having those winged tattos makes me think he could be the winged monster in the middle but idk.

Tho it might be just a different "chaotic" Nika as you said, since he self proclaims himself as the sungod who will end the world
Some creature from the mural is very possible, this is typical writing style from Oda. He revealed g5 right after WsW strongly alluded to its lore/existence too.
 
#10
I think Blackbeards Yami Yami may be this one
You think the Yami Yami isn't actually a Logia but a Zoan?

I dunno about that. It's certainly a possibility, but I've held to the theory Blackbeard still "only" has two DF because his goal is to combine the powers of the most powerful fruit of each type, i.e. the Yami Yami is the most powerful Logia (if only in his opinion) and the Gura Gura the strongest Paramecia (again in his opinion).

As for the most powerful Zoan fruit - I think the point of Catarina touching Saturn was to create an opportunity for Blackbeard to defeat Imu and steal his Zoan fruit.

imo Blackbeard will become "King of the World" in Imu's stead, essentially vanquishing the Gorosei and replacing them with his own immortal subordinates (he'll probably be capped at a number), and the battle to make that happen is what will reveal the whole truth of the Twenty Kings, Imu, Rocks and Blackbeard's relation to him.
 
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#11
Loki having those winged tattos makes me think he could be the winged monster in the middle but idk.

Tho it might be just a different "chaotic" Nika as you said, since he self proclaims himself as the sungod who will end the world
What if the dragon at the top was another incarnation of the sun god? It looked like it might have been actually fighting the Hellfire serpent.
And the little figure at the bottom whom the slaves are serving is the earth god.
 
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#14
Interesting Idea,
Luffy's Nika is about "Dreams", as seen when He mentioned those who Entrusted their Dreams to him when He wanted to recharge his Gear 5 against Kaidou

Loki does indeed seem to be Chaotic Version of Nika, so it's possible that his DF is Fueled by Nightmares or maybe Vengeance,
And according to him, He will Destroy entire World which is a Clear Reference to Ragnarok & Great Flames as Hinted in Mural & also Goa Kingdom Flashback,

The reason i mentioned Vengeance as Opposite of Dreams, is because you develop a Dream as you Live, but what about the Dead? Many of them were Killed in a way that makes want Revenge or Vengeance, (Every Scene of Loki highlighted this Theme of Vengeful Rage)

And we've already seen an example of this, it was Kanjuro's Yokai! (BM's Sig Technique Misery was also another Example),
So i don't know what his DF will be called or how it works, but imo it's most probably related to Vengeful Flames in one way or another,
Maybe He is Surtur
 

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#15
I thought about this too, even thinking that there might be 3 different versions of Nika - liberator, destroyer and laughing clown.
And you make a few good points, especially with that Loki pose that copies Luffy's, implying that he too is Nika.

However, if this was true, with both Loki and late Harald having this ability, the whole of Elbaf would know Nika first hand instead of thinking of it as a myth. Unless this is plot hole in Oda's writing, Loki might end up being something different that still might be considered a Sun God.

Also, Loki says: I am the Sun God who brings the world to an end.
The ancient mural: Sun god dances and laughs, leading the world to its end...
 
#16
However, if this was true, with both Loki and late Harald having this ability, the whole of Elbaf would know Nika first hand instead of thinking of it as a myth. Unless this is plot hole in Oda's writing, Loki might end up being something different that still might be considered a Sun God.
Hm, was it confirmed Harold ate the fruit, or did he just keep it in his possession? This is the same guy who mutilated himself because he hated his warlike heritage, after all.
 
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