Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

Is Oden somehow giving the Scabbards powerups from the afterlife just like in Naruto?

 

[Isaac Netero]

With how much its been referenced/hyped in the story, no way. Zou was only mentioned the arc prior. Elbaf has nearly 860 chapters worth of teasing.

At best I would say a Davy Back fight with Shanks crew If i am being honest.

 

[DarkWitch]

Kaidou and the Red Scabbards fall to the ground together. When Big Mom sees the situation she says "Oh, is Kaidou dead?"

I like how Big Mom nonchalantly asked if Kaido is dead.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Haha ^^" Kaidou's stock tanked big time this chapter not gonna lie lolz. Scabbards being able to hurt him whereas Luffy couldn't is shocking but well I guess that can explained by the potency of their Ryou and just how destructive it is (wonder if it's the same Ryou Luffy learnt?) but still tho, I'm calling bullshit on the scabbards that traveled 20 years into the future being able to hurt Kaidou. Seems like all the scabbards were able to pierce through Kaidou's skin or at the very least, we have confirmation that Kiku was able to lolz. Like how!? I mean the scabbards that didn't time travel had a whole 20 years to up their Ryou so fair enough I guess but what time did the scabbards that time traveled have to train? Moreover Inu & Neko were stalled by Jack for 5 days even tho they somehow posses this new OP haki?

That aside, seems like all the minks are gonna be going Sulong so I'm hype for that shit~! Like I stated in Monkey D. Theories thread about the scabbards defeating the calamities, it made a lot more sense for the the dukes to use their sulong forms against Kaidou and not Jack. Anyways, as expected Luffy will be stalled by Lilin so the Scabbards can get their asses kicked by Kaidou...lolz..I wonder tho, why did the scabbards hold on to Kaidou when he flew to the roof, did they agree with Kaidou to have a show down there?

Also, Ulti uses a friggin mace, which is super dope~! Thought she was a pure CQC. Looking forward to seeing her scrap with Yamato, and I wonder how Who's Who plays a part in all this.

Queen is hilarious as always...lolz...interesting that the calamities left the scabbards to Kaidou tho. Again a massive indication that the calamities are being saved for Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe.

Also why the hell is Perospero and Marco teaming up after Perorin talked all that shit about Marco. His thought pattern is incredibly baffling atm, so he's going to ally with Marco and the alliance to take down Kaidou and his Mom? lolz

 

[sanjikun]

I think the Scabbards were highly underestimated, even the weaker ones. I think we all thought because they were allies, they had to be weak, but I say they are all close to the Yonko commanders in strength. Their quality and quantity combined is their strength.

Plus, people have short memory. Squard skewered Whitebeard. Kaido taking a few cuts doesn't mean much.

They weren't underestimated.

 

[Fuckthis3]

All of us in this thread should go report and banned yonko twitter

 

[Fallen Prince]

With Kinemon saying he wouldn't wield enma despite his Ryuo mastery I think we already have two shs with Ryuo .

Luffy and Zoro.

Ya also i think all of the crew will gain ryou by end of this arc or it will be disappointing if 2/3 members in crew have it.

 

[BangOO🍅]

Marco making an alliances with Perospero after Marco kick Queen Mama Chanter? cmon Oda.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Except the pinnacle of Luffy's power is King Kong Gun, which Oda purposefully has hidden. Keep crying though.

Doesn't matter
Oden Ryou attacks> Combined Retainers Ryou attack > pre Udone G4 Luffy attacks he used on Kaido

BTW this chapter kills " oden used basic CoA," as people claimed.
I always said it, Kaido wouldn't bleed inside out if Oden didn't use AdCoA or Rypu.

 

[Paperchampion23]

At best I would say a Davy Back fight with Shanks crew If i am being honest.

Not sure why this is even a guess lol. What does Shanks have to do with Elbaf and why do people at all assume a Davy Back fight is how their encounter will go lmao. Theres zero evidence of either happening.

 

[Blackflamesanji]

The Red Scabbards aren't individually stronger than G4 Luffy, it was a team effort.

it's not a team effort when all the scabbard's blade manage to Pierce kaido, but i aggre the scabbards are not stronger than luffy, it's just that they all know ryou, and i think ryou is just a tool to direct your attack inside your enemy's body but doesn't mean it was stronger than regular armament haki.

if luffy back then when he fought kaido used G4 and ryou he will manage to injure kaido for sure

 

[York]

Imagine being so weak as to actually get stabbed by fodder level characters can you believe this guy?

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Does this mean all the scabbards are as strong as oden because they were able to cut kaido

It's a team effort bruhh

they also got flashback power up in that Sunnach attack

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

ALso turns out he's called the World's Strongest Creature cause he has the strongest zoan.

I think Light posted the text / chapter name which leads to that conclusion. @Light D Lamperouge

You mean the summary?

Kaidou accepts the Red Scabbards' challenge, he will show them the power of "The Strongest Creature". Kaidou transforms into dragon and flies through the roof. The Red Scabbards grab on to Kaidou's body. Luffy says he'll follow them shortly.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

is that really why?
lmao
HORY SHITTO

Kaidou accepts the Red Scabbards' challenge, he will show them the power of "The Strongest Creature". Kaidou transforms into dragon and flies through the roof. The Red Scabbards grab on to Kaidou's body. Luffy says he'll follow them shortly.

It came from Mr. @Hanzo hattori

So the way it's phrased makes it seem like his epithet comes from the dragon fruit being absurdly strong.

 

[Isaac Netero]

I am more into alliance between Marco and Perospero. I have speculated that Perospero’s schemes might backfire and seriously hurt BMP, but I think there is also another option. When BMP fell from the waterfall for the first time, we have seen that there were differences between the ideas of children. Perospero thought that if BM were to die, he would have to be the captain of the crew, while Daifuku and several other children thought that the honor belonged to Katakuri. Also, another view between the children (Smoothie etc.) was that BM is completely invincible. We know that Perospero is a smart and cunning individual with huge ego. It seems like he is certainly not satisfied with just being a minister of an island and wants something more, like administrative position in the crew, clinging into his ambitions even more than his mother’s safety. This led me to think that Marco might have offered him either commanding position in to-be-revived Whitebeard Pirates or helping him to rise to the captaincy in BMP in exchange of helping the alliance to take down Big Mom and Kaido. In my perspective, there are two options: either Perospero is planning to double-cross everyone to grant BMP a victory or he is planning to betray BMP in the war to realize his ambitions.

Thats a pretty good take, Perospero plot is being overshadowed by all the stuff happening around it.

 

[Fallen Prince]

They weren't underestimated.

Cant explain why kinemon was nerfed in dressrossa? Now he looks like he is around yc3 level fighter. I wont tske fights in one piece seriously they can be asspull most of the times.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

now sanjikun is salty coz g4 couldn't hurt Kaido and retainers did it in combined attack

He started downplaying Kaido.

Kaido WSC

All of them barely made him bleed and didn't cut him even though they used swords but somehow Zoro can "cut" Kaido

 

[Hades]

He is not weak it just shows oden s ryou was top tier, i dont think luffy is their yet he just learnt ryou recently.

What Luffy learnt was more advanced than Ryou...

 

[sanjikun]

Doesn't matter
Oden Ryou attacks> Combined Retainers Ryou attack > pre Udone G4 Luffy attacks he used on Kaido

BTW this chapter kills " oden used basic CoA," as people claimed.
I always said it, Kaido wouldn't bleed inside out if Oden didn't use AdCoA or Rypu.

What is this comparison? Scabbards gave it their all. Luffy didn't. Kaido prevented Luffy from going all out and KOed him after 1 movr. They sneak attacked him from the get go.