Isolating them and putting them in a position that didn’t help them to consider Konoha a home was a stupid mistake
what should he have done then?

give them more power and make them central to Konoha?

the whole clan history was under zetsu's control, and madara was alive still and plotting. It would have simply made madara/zetsu's jobs easier.
 
Tobirama himself was a terrible kage

Tobirama was the best Hokage lol

“Many of your policies and jutsu caused problems later down the line” is such a goofy line

He named one policy that hurt more than it helped that being the police force (which wasn’t his fault anyway, blame Madara)

Blaming him for Edo Tensei being misused is similarly nonsensical. That’s like blaming Oppenheimer every time someone drops a nuke. Do we curse the man that made the first gun whenever someone gets shot?

He created the infrastructure for the village and is the reason it’s become what it is today
 
Tobirama was the best Hokage lol

“Many of your policies and jutsu caused problems later down the line” is such a goofy line

He named one policy that hurt more than it helped that being the police force (which wasn’t his fault anyway, blame Madara)

Blaming him for Edo Tensei being misused is similarly nonsensical. That’s like blaming Oppenheimer every time someone drops a nuke. Do we curse the man that made the first gun whenever someone gets shot?

He created the infrastructure for the village and is the reason it’s become what it is today
His policies led to a genocide lmao
 
Many of your policies and jutsu…
We know of only the uchiha shit

And Edo tensei i guess.

If many of his policies had catastrophic effects on current story, kishi shoulda expanded and explained them. I don't care about orochimaru mouthing off trying to shift blame.

It’s not just his Uchiha stance. And this is objective, 100%.
Lol

It couldn't be more subjective.

We don't get jack shit about any other policies. And the one policy the snake blames tobirama for, has a clear and concise reason why he did that and it is further justified by the stuff we learn later about the uchiha too.

Orochimaru is an unreliable narrator who is currently looking for someone to blame for his new leader Sasuke's problems with konoha.

Tobirama is Orochimaru’s favorite Hokage lol
How the fuck can't you sense sarcasm there?

Are you really this dense?
 
Likes: yj
Yeah,I wouldn't shit on Tobirama either necessarily, making sure that clans used to all hate eachother would come together in one village isn't exactly easy, and old feuds coming up again could cause a lot of problems, I think it makes sense he was worried about the uchiha clan because of Madara, though he obviously had his bigotries.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
what should he have done then?

give them more power and make them central to Konoha?

the whole clan history was under zetsu's control, and madara was alive still and plotting. It would have simply made madara/zetsu's jobs easier.
Yes

Either you have the uchiha in or out

if you want them in you give them a normal place, if not you only plants the seed of future resentment and revolt

Madara and Obito used the Uchiha resentment

It would have been quite harder if Uchiha were fully part of the village
 
His policies led to a genocide lmao
Again, blaming Tobirama for something Madara caused

Answer this, when did the Uchiha truly become public enemy number one?

It was after the 9 Tails attack. Who caused that attack to happen? Obito, right?

Who gave Obito the orders to carry out said attack? Madara.

The Uchiha aren’t pushed to the outskirts and ostracized if the 9 Tails attack doesn’t happen

Everything that led to the genocide is Madara’s fault
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Tobirama was the best Hokage lol

“Many of your policies and jutsu caused problems later down the line” is such a goofy line

He named one policy that hurt more than it helped that being the police force (which wasn’t his fault anyway, blame Madara)

Blaming him for Edo Tensei being misused is similarly nonsensical. That’s like blaming Oppenheimer every time someone drops a nuke. Do we curse the man that made the first gun whenever someone gets shot?

He created the infrastructure for the village and is the reason it’s become what it is today
These are Kishi’s words, they’re not refuted and they’re the only report we have of Tobirama’s tenure as Kage lol.

Edo Tensei, a jutsu that requires a living person to die and the caster to grave rob the summoned dead? Yeah Tobirama can take credit for that, it’s not like the atom bomb where there were multiple people who could’ve done—no one is making Edo Tensei but Tobirama
 
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