Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[Roo]

Tobirama was the best Hokage lol

“Many of your policies and jutsu caused problems later down the line” is such a goofy line

He named one policy that hurt more than it helped that being the police force (which wasn’t his fault anyway, blame Madara)

Blaming him for Edo Tensei being misused is similarly nonsensical. That’s like blaming Oppenheimer every time someone drops a nuke. Do we curse the man that made the first gun whenever someone gets shot?

He created the infrastructure for the village and is the reason it’s become what it is today

His policies led to a genocide lmao

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Many of your policies and jutsu…

We know of only the uchiha shit

And Edo tensei i guess.

If many of his policies had catastrophic effects on current story, kishi shoulda expanded and explained them. I don't care about orochimaru mouthing off trying to shift blame.

It’s not just his Uchiha stance. And this is objective, 100%.

Lol

It couldn't be more subjective.

We don't get jack shit about any other policies. And the one policy the snake blames tobirama for, has a clear and concise reason why he did that and it is further justified by the stuff we learn later about the uchiha too.

Orochimaru is an unreliable narrator who is currently looking for someone to blame for his new leader Sasuke's problems with konoha.

Tobirama is Orochimaru’s favorite Hokage lol

How the fuck can't you sense sarcasm there?

Are you really this dense?

 

[soupongo]

Yeah,I wouldn't shit on Tobirama either necessarily, making sure that clans used to all hate eachother would come together in one village isn't exactly easy, and old feuds coming up again could cause a lot of problems, I think it makes sense he was worried about the uchiha clan because of Madara, though he obviously had his bigotries.

 

[SakazOuki]

An Uchiha massacres his entire clan during the reign of Hiruzen
"b-but it was Tobirama"

 

[RayanOO]

what should he have done then?

give them more power and make them central to Konoha?

the whole clan history was under zetsu's control, and madara was alive still and plotting. It would have simply made madara/zetsu's jobs easier.

Yes

Either you have the uchiha in or out

if you want them in you give them a normal place, if not you only plants the seed of future resentment and revolt

Madara and Obito used the Uchiha resentment

It would have been quite harder if Uchiha were fully part of the village

 

[yj]

Isn't this Lanlolu in here? Blud sees Oda writing about Loki and Zoro having parallels and immediately tries to insert Lanji and his shit family in the conversation...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896587066135523457

Oda had to spell it for his slow fanbase and sanji fans still don’t get it 😭

 

[Franz]

CHAPTER RATINGS:

Loki - 100/10

luffy - 6/10

Sanji - 6.5/10

harjudin - 6.45/10

zoro - 2/10

And Shamrock?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

If Loki's tattoo is a hint of his DF then he might have a flying type DF.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Madara and Obito used the Uchiha resentment

madara used him not getting to be hokage lmao

a sour loser

And Obito used Rin getting fisted

 

[Welkin]

His policies led to a genocide lmao

Again, blaming Tobirama for something Madara caused

Answer this, when did the Uchiha truly become public enemy number one?

It was after the 9 Tails attack. Who caused that attack to happen? Obito, right?

Who gave Obito the orders to carry out said attack? Madara.

The Uchiha aren’t pushed to the outskirts and ostracized if the 9 Tails attack doesn’t happen

Everything that led to the genocide is Madara’s fault

 

[sanzolu]

Oda had to spell it for his slow fanbase and sanji fans still don’t get it 😭

Lol i dont care bout zoro or Loki. We know Loki prob protecting that old fraud up there. I want judges bitchass dead. Anything to ride that train

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Tobirama was the best Hokage lol

“Many of your policies and jutsu caused problems later down the line” is such a goofy line

He named one policy that hurt more than it helped that being the police force (which wasn’t his fault anyway, blame Madara)

Blaming him for Edo Tensei being misused is similarly nonsensical. That’s like blaming Oppenheimer every time someone drops a nuke. Do we curse the man that made the first gun whenever someone gets shot?

He created the infrastructure for the village and is the reason it’s become what it is today

These are Kishi’s words, they’re not refuted and they’re the only report we have of Tobirama’s tenure as Kage lol.

Edo Tensei, a jutsu that requires a living person to die and the caster to grave rob the summoned dead? Yeah Tobirama can take credit for that, it’s not like the atom bomb where there were multiple people who could’ve done—no one is making Edo Tensei but Tobirama

 

[Seraphoenix]

I’m not surprised that Saint Shanks is inferior to someone Akainu one shot. Lol

The same Akainu that was too scared of Shanks to challenge him?

Admirals are the Flying 6 of the Gorosei

 

[Shiroyru]

There's legit no kage without any mistakes.

Minato?

 

[L57]

Lol i dont care bout zoro or Loki. We know Loki prob protecting that old fraud up there. I want judges bitchass dead. Anything to ride that train

Lanjiclown always tries to insert the jobber where he doesnt belong

 

[RayanOO]

madara used him not getting to be hokage lmao

Madara resenting not being Hokage is his own problem
The Uchiha could have still be part of the village peacefully and they accepted it

Only Madara was a bitch about it

And Obito used Rin getting fisted

Obito also didn’t have luck being manipulated by Madara and groomed to be like that

That doesn’t mean Uchiha should have been ostracized inside Konoha

The stronger the bonds with the village the better for Konoha and less chance of revolt / coup

 

[Peroroncino]

I smelled the Tobirama slander so i returned to end it

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Oda had to spell it for his slow fanbase and sanji fans still don’t get it 😭

One of them butthurt fanboys said that Road aka slave n°3 was Zoro's parallel because he was crucified too.

 

[Roo]

Again, blaming Tobirama for something Madara caused

Answer this, when did the Uchiha truly become public enemy number one?

It was after the 9 Tails attack. Who caused that attack to happen? Obito, right?

Who gave Obito the orders to carry out said attack? Madara.

The Uchiha aren’t pushed to the outskirts and ostracized if the 9 Tails attack doesn’t happen

Everything that led to the genocide is Madara’s fault

The Uchiha were already discriminated against by the time Obito released the 9 tails

You’re ignoring what were told to create your own head canon lol

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I smelled the Tobirama slander so i returned to end it

Stfu

 

[[No Name]]

Many of your policies and jutsu…

It’s not just his Uchiha stance. And this is objective, 100%. Tobirama is Orochimaru’s favorite Hokage lol

People are just biased against Uchihas, it's actually worrying how many people think tobirama did a good job when the village still exists thanks to Itachi sacrifice.